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Posted by Cheryl Isaak on May 20, 2008, 6:36 am
I recently saw a project in one of the British magazines using colored/dyed
needlepoint canvas.
Well, I don't want to spend an arm and leg for the colored stuff to try the
project. Since I work at Michaels and get a discount, I was thinking about
trying to dye or paint some of the DMC canvas we carry....
Thoughts folks.
Cheryl
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Posted by anne on May 20, 2008, 7:26 am
Cheryl Isaak says...
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> I recently saw a project in one of the British magazines using colored/dyed
> needlepoint canvas.
>
> Well, I don't want to spend an arm and leg for the colored stuff to try the
> project. Since I work at Michaels and get a discount, I was thinking about
> trying to dye or paint some of the DMC canvas we carry....
I'm not really qualified to answer the question as I've created very
colorful rags when I used fabric paints and dyes but lack of knowledge
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never stops people from participating in online discussions <g> I did,
however, take a canvas painting class. We used plain acrylic paints to
create a bouquet which we later stitched over.
Even if you're not planning to cover the dyed or painted area, it's
possible that washes of the cheap stuff might work.
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another anne, add ingers to reply
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Posted by ellice on May 20, 2008, 8:36 am
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> Cheryl Isaak says...
>> I recently saw a project in one of the British magazines using colored/dyed
>> needlepoint canvas.
>>
>> Well, I don't want to spend an arm and leg for the colored stuff to try the
>> project. Since I work at Michaels and get a discount, I was thinking about
>> trying to dye or paint some of the DMC canvas we carry....
>
> I'm not really qualified to answer the question as I've created very
> colorful rags when I used fabric paints and dyes but lack of knowledge
> never stops people from participating in online discussions <g> I did,
> however, take a canvas painting class. We used plain acrylic paints to
> create a bouquet which we later stitched over.
>
> Even if you're not planning to cover the dyed or painted area, it's
> possible that washes of the cheap stuff might work.
Ah, but dye works a bit differently than painting on canvas. The thing with
the painting, is that you're more bonding the paint to the surface of the
canvas, as opposed to having the dye taken up by the fiber itself.
Most canvas painting is done with acrylic paints - they're water soluble,
opaque, and become permanent. There's a bunch of technical info that has to
do with how permanent, how opaque -but that only matters to artists. IME,
most people just painting for themselves, or doing a "paint a canvas" class,
use craft type acrylics, and often add fabric medium. Most of the
"professional" canvas painters use high grade artist's acrylics, which have
more pigment and are heavier paint. While they (me included) may use flow
extender (acrylics dry quickly), fabric medium isn't necessary. The starch
on the canvas isn't that much different than painting on a gessoed canvas
(like an art painting). The fabric medium makes the paint more flexible,
better able to bond on a sweatshirt, or the like, which will take on many
shapes in use. But, the paint essentially builds on the surface - unlike
dye which is really an osmotic process (similar to staining vs painting
wood).
But, I do think Cheryl should give her creative edge a whirl!
Ellice
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Posted by ellice on May 20, 2008, 8:29 am
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> I recently saw a project in one of the British magazines using colored/dyed
> needlepoint canvas.
>
> Well, I don't want to spend an arm and leg for the colored stuff to try the
> project. Since I work at Michaels and get a discount, I was thinking about
> trying to dye or paint some of the DMC canvas we carry....
>
>
> Thoughts folks.
>
> Cheryl
>
Uh, Cheryl, the colored canvas is not much more than the normal colors.
As in 4 cents a sq in vs 3 cents. That is for all the colored stuff. I'll
have to take a better look - but I don't recall seeing anyso to speak
hand-dyed. But, I have seen some printed to look like hand-dye - which is
slightly higher.
I'm not sure how the dye will take with the starch which is built up on the
canvas. Good luck trying. I think you'll have a hard time getting a
traditional dye method to really work - chemistry thing, saturation of the
starch versus dying on linen where you're saturating the fiber.
Have fun with your experiment.
Ellice
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Posted by Tia Mary on May 20, 2008, 9:06 am
ellice wrote:
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> I'm not sure how the dye will take with the starch which is built up on the
> canvas. Good luck trying. I think you'll have a hard time getting a
> traditional dye method to really work - chemistry thing, saturation of the
> starch versus dying on linen where you're saturating the fiber.
>
> Have fun with your experiment.
>
> Ellice
I just dyed a bunny for the SMDGD and had to soak the poor little
thing forever to make sure that all of it was wet enough so that it
would accept the dye. I wonder what sort of results you would get if
you thoroughly soaked the needlework canvas to remove all of the
stiffeners and get the the base fabric thoroughly wet and then dyed it?
Once dry, it could be soaked in some sort of stiffener again -- not
sure if fabric startch is what is actually used -- to get it firm enough
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to stitch on more easily. Interesting topic :-). CiaoMeow >^;;^<
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PAX, Tia Mary >^;;^< (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
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> needlepoint canvas.
>
> Well, I don't want to spend an arm and leg for the colored stuff to try the
> project. Since I work at Michaels and get a discount, I was thinking about
> trying to dye or paint some of the DMC canvas we carry....