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Posted by Tia Mary on February 21, 2009, 11:23 pm
lucretia borgia wrote:
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> Trust me, I don't wish to be a gal either ! However, I am not male so
> do not like generic 'guys' - there was a poll at one point a few years
> ago and most women did not like guys either, so it's not just me. Now
> it might just have been a Canadian survey, I don't recall.
>
> I'm wondering now just how old you think I am !!!
Well, you talk story about what happened during WW2 so I assume you
are 70-ish. Age wise, that doesn't make you a generation older than
MOI -- I'm early 60's. Language wise -- especially when you toss in the
different nationalities -- it makes for a much larger gap. I'm smack in
the middle of the baby boomer era & grew up in Los Angeles so that has a
HUGE impact on how I was raised and the way I speak -- LOL!
When I was growing up, the use of the word "guys" really was generic
-- even the nuns in the Catholic high school I attended (I graduated in
1964) used the term for the whole class. I think it's likely akin to
using a male pronoun when talking about a group of individuals. I don't
think younger kids even know that guys was a male pronoun and gals was
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the female! CiaoMeow >^;;^<
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PAX, Tia Mary >^;;^< (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about
their whiskers!
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Posted by on February 22, 2009, 8:48 am
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> opined:
> >lucretia borgia wrote:
> >> Just bringing this to your attention Gillian, even though you are not
> >> a guy either, don't you have a list and personal knowledge about all
> >> sorts of LNS ??
> > =A0 =A0Since I don't ever use the term "gal" then ***MY*** use of the t=
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> >"guy" is generic and refers to anyone who happens to read my post,
> >regardless of gender. =A0My generation (which is the one after yours, I
> >think) has used the term to mean both male and female -- at least the
> >West coast version of my generation. =A0I'm really sorry that the langua=
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> >hasn't stayed static since the 40's but if it makes you feel more
> >"whatever" to poke fun at my use of the term "guy" to address everyone,
> >then go for it! =A0CiaoMeow >^;;^<
> >PAX, Tia Mary >^;;^< =A0 (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
> >Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about
> >their whiskers!
> >Visit my Photo albums at =A0http://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary
> Trust me, I don't wish to be a gal either ! =A0However, I am not male so
> do not like generic 'guys' - there was a poll at one point a few years
> ago and most women did not like guys either, so it's not just me. Now
> it might just have been a Canadian survey, I don't recall.
My students use "guys" as a gender-neutral catch all. I prefer y'all.
Elizabeth
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Posted by Bruce Fletcher (remove denture on February 22, 2009, 10:43 am
epc123@mindspring.com wrote:
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> My students use "guys" as a gender-neutral catch all. I prefer y'all.
Here the tendency is to use "folks", "people", "everyone" or
"everybody". In more formal settings "ladies & gentlemen" would be used
or, if appropriate "my lords, ladies & gentlemen". No doubt Debrett has
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umpteen pages on this sort of thing <g>
--
Bruce Fletcher
Stronsay, Orkney UK
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<http://claremont.island-blogging.co.uk>
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Posted by lucretia borgia on February 22, 2009, 5:38 pm
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 05:48:35 -0800 (PST), epc123@mindspring.com
opined:
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>wrote:
>> opined:
>> >lucretia borgia wrote:
>> >> Just bringing this to your attention Gillian, even though you are not
>> >> a guy either, don't you have a list and personal knowledge about all
>> >> sorts of LNS ??
>> > Since I don't ever use the term "gal" then ***MY*** use of the term
>> >"guy" is generic and refers to anyone who happens to read my post,
>> >regardless of gender. My generation (which is the one after yours, I
>> >think) has used the term to mean both male and female -- at least the
>> >West coast version of my generation. I'm really sorry that the language
>> >hasn't stayed static since the 40's but if it makes you feel more
>> >"whatever" to poke fun at my use of the term "guy" to address everyone,
>> >then go for it! CiaoMeow >^;;^<
>> >PAX, Tia Mary >^;;^< (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
>> >Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about
>> >their whiskers!
>> >Visit my Photo albums at http://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary
>> Trust me, I don't wish to be a gal either ! However, I am not male so
>> do not like generic 'guys' - there was a poll at one point a few years
>> ago and most women did not like guys either, so it's not just me. Now
>> it might just have been a Canadian survey, I don't recall.
>My students use "guys" as a gender-neutral catch all. I prefer y'all.
>Elizabeth
'y'al' is gender neutral, but I still maintain 'guys' is very
definitely masculine and I AM NOT A GUY ! Others may be confused
about their gender, but not me !
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Posted by on February 22, 2009, 8:41 pm
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> On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 05:48:35 -0800 (PST), epc...@mindspring.com
> opined:
> >wrote:
> >> opined:
> >> >lucretia borgia wrote:
> >> >> Just bringing this to your attention Gillian, even though you are n=
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> >> >> a guy either, don't you have a list and personal knowledge about al=
l
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> >> >> sorts of LNS ??
> >> > Since I don't ever use the term "gal" then ***MY*** use of the term
> >> >"guy" is generic and refers to anyone who happens to read my post,
> >> >regardless of gender. My generation (which is the one after yours, I
> >> >think) has used the term to mean both male and female -- at least the
> >> >West coast version of my generation. I'm really sorry that the langua=
ge
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> >> >hasn't stayed static since the 40's but if it makes you feel more
> >> >"whatever" to poke fun at my use of the term "guy" to address everyon=
e,
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> >> >then go for it! CiaoMeow >^;;^<
> >> >PAX, Tia Mary >^;;^< (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
> >> >Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said abou=
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> >> >their whiskers!
> >> >Visit my Photo albums athttp://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary
> >> Trust me, I don't wish to be a gal either ! However, I am not male so
> >> do not like generic 'guys' - there was a poll at one point a few years
> >> ago and most women did not like guys either, so it's not just me. Now
> >> it might just have been a Canadian survey, I don't recall.
> >My students use "guys" as a gender-neutral catch all. =A0I prefer y'all.
> >Elizabeth
> 'y'al' is gender neutral, but I still maintain 'guys' is very
> definitely masculine and I AM NOT A GUY ! =A0Others may be confused
> about their gender, but not me !
Well, if you're going to be *that* way about it, you should say "not
I." LOL!
Elizabeth.
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> do not like generic 'guys' - there was a poll at one point a few years
> ago and most women did not like guys either, so it's not just me. Now
> it might just have been a Canadian survey, I don't recall.
>
> I'm wondering now just how old you think I am !!!