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Posted by ellice on June 23, 2009, 4:25 pm
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>
>> Lucille wrote:
>>> Could your spam filter, or anti-virus program be blocking mail from Face
>>> Book?
>>>
>>
>> I checked my spam and there is nothing there. The odd thing is that
>> I DID get one e-mail from FB in response to my filling out the problem
>> form. That's the one I had to reply to so that they would know I was
>> the person who sent the problem report. Since then, absolutely nothing.
>> I did meander around through the Help Page and found a spot where I
>> could actually write and tell them what the problem was. I'm waiting to
>> see if I get a response to that.
>> I looked everywhere and found absolutely NOTHING that would be a
>> generic "Contact" e-mail. If I don't hear back from this latest problem
>> report, I'm not sure what I will do! There have to be at least a dozen
>> people who have asked me to be a "friend" and I can't accept because I
>> can't sign on! VBS -- what a PITA!!!! CiaoMeow >^;;^<
>>
>> PAX, Tia Mary >^;;^< (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
>> Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about
>> their whiskers!
>> Visit my Photo albums at http://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary
>
>
> IMO (which I know you won't want) the whole thing of FB is totally
> ridiculous. Add twitter as well.
Yikes - we kind of agree - though I don't think it's totally ridiculous,
just completely blown out of perspective in usage.
Yesterday as we were driving home (carpool, as Nessie in the shop) NPR had a
report on about social networking and Gen Yers WRT productivitiy and the
"lack of etiquette" in business meetings. Someone had put together a report
after studying a good amount of various corporate/businesses and the
discussion was centering on the incredible amount of time the Gen Y (20
somethings) feel is just fine to be spent doing social networking during the
work-day - twitter, facebook, My Space, personal e-mail, texting, etc. It's
about 20-25% and more, of the day. While supposedly working - separate from
breaks. And that people do not understand when they are requested not to do
this during billable work time, or to respect limits of how much personal
socializing is going on during the work-day. Then some woman from Deloitte
Touche spoke that they feel IIRC up to about 15% of time at work could be
spent on social networking - strictly personal - not business networking -
as that ensured happy employess who are in touch with families, etc. Pretty
amazing. Then this went on to discuss the clash at business meetings now -
where the Baby Boomers - now the seniors in a meeting - are rolling their
eyes, as the most junior people there are still texting, looking at their
Crackberries, and opening lap-tops - even doing e-mail, FB, etc - while at a
meeting.
I can understand a certain amount of social/personal e-mail happening during
the day, and keeping people content, feeling valued is fine. But the
non-stop if you unplug me I'll fall apart sense is just absurd. So many of
these people cannot structure a coherent sentence, let alone a thought. I
think if I were at a business meeting and saw the lack of attention to
matters at hand, I'd speak up. If it's not worth the attention of those
there, than either it's not worth my time, or they needn't be paid to be
there. Even at my "stupid" Caribou job, the manager told me it's a big
issue with the younger staff - texting/cell phones. The "ADHD" but very
nice 21 year old - cannot put down his cell. Constantly playing with it.
The guy can't stay focused long enough to remember an order from the drive
-thru for 20 sec to get it entered in the system - let alone complete a
task. I am amazed - as the crew are merely texting to people they've just
seen or will see wtihin minutes it seems. Oh, well.
The whole carry-over of all this shared personal information and lack of
respect for business/professional versus personal space and behavior kind of
astonishes me. Oh, well, I guess I'm showing my age.
Rant off.
Ellice
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Posted by Lucille on June 23, 2009, 4:40 pm
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>> wrote:
>>> Lucille wrote:
>>>> Could your spam filter, or anti-virus program be blocking mail from
>>>> Face
>>>> Book?
>>> I checked my spam and there is nothing there. The odd thing is that
>>> I DID get one e-mail from FB in response to my filling out the problem
>>> form. That's the one I had to reply to so that they would know I was
>>> the person who sent the problem report. Since then, absolutely nothing.
>>> I did meander around through the Help Page and found a spot where I
>>> could actually write and tell them what the problem was. I'm waiting to
>>> see if I get a response to that.
>>> I looked everywhere and found absolutely NOTHING that would be a
>>> generic "Contact" e-mail. If I don't hear back from this latest problem
>>> report, I'm not sure what I will do! There have to be at least a dozen
>>> people who have asked me to be a "friend" and I can't accept because I
>>> can't sign on! VBS -- what a PITA!!!! CiaoMeow >^;;^<
>>> PAX, Tia Mary >^;;^< (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
>>> Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about
>>> their whiskers!
>>> Visit my Photo albums at http://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary
>> IMO (which I know you won't want) the whole thing of FB is totally
>> ridiculous. Add twitter as well.
> Yikes - we kind of agree - though I don't think it's totally ridiculous,
> just completely blown out of perspective in usage.
> Yesterday as we were driving home (carpool, as Nessie in the shop) NPR had
> a
> report on about social networking and Gen Yers WRT productivitiy and the
> "lack of etiquette" in business meetings. Someone had put together a
> report
> after studying a good amount of various corporate/businesses and the
> discussion was centering on the incredible amount of time the Gen Y (20
> somethings) feel is just fine to be spent doing social networking during
> the
> work-day - twitter, facebook, My Space, personal e-mail, texting, etc.
> It's
> about 20-25% and more, of the day. While supposedly working - separate
> from
> breaks. And that people do not understand when they are requested not to
> do
> this during billable work time, or to respect limits of how much personal
> socializing is going on during the work-day. Then some woman from
> Deloitte
> Touche spoke that they feel IIRC up to about 15% of time at work could be
> spent on social networking - strictly personal - not business networking -
> as that ensured happy employess who are in touch with families, etc.
> Pretty
> amazing. Then this went on to discuss the clash at business meetings
> now -
> where the Baby Boomers - now the seniors in a meeting - are rolling their
> eyes, as the most junior people there are still texting, looking at their
> Crackberries, and opening lap-tops - even doing e-mail, FB, etc - while at
> a
> meeting.
> I can understand a certain amount of social/personal e-mail happening
> during
> the day, and keeping people content, feeling valued is fine. But the
> non-stop if you unplug me I'll fall apart sense is just absurd. So many
> of
> these people cannot structure a coherent sentence, let alone a thought. I
> think if I were at a business meeting and saw the lack of attention to
> matters at hand, I'd speak up. If it's not worth the attention of those
> there, than either it's not worth my time, or they needn't be paid to be
> there. Even at my "stupid" Caribou job, the manager told me it's a big
> issue with the younger staff - texting/cell phones. The "ADHD" but very
> nice 21 year old - cannot put down his cell. Constantly playing with it.
> The guy can't stay focused long enough to remember an order from the drive
> -thru for 20 sec to get it entered in the system - let alone complete a
> task. I am amazed - as the crew are merely texting to people they've just
> seen or will see wtihin minutes it seems. Oh, well.
> The whole carry-over of all this shared personal information and lack of
> respect for business/professional versus personal space and behavior kind
> of
> astonishes me. Oh, well, I guess I'm showing my age.
> Rant off.
> Ellice
I also wonder if anyone has a clue how to be alone and depend on themselves
for entertainment. What will happen to some of these kids when they're
stuck in with a cranky baby and there's no one to annoy, or the electricity
goes off because there's a storm, or (gasp) they actually have to decide all
by themselves whether to buy french bread or kaiser rolls.
I often hear those moronic conversations in the supermarket about whether to
get Skippy or Peter Pan and then have some young woman tell me she was
talking to her 8 year old to find out which he liked better. For heaven's
sake, you're the mother, you decide for him.
My last comment is a question. Does everyone really want to know every
time someone goes off to the grocery, or up to bed, or all those ordinary
things that one does during the day?
Lucille
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Posted by on June 23, 2009, 5:39 pm
wrote:
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>>> IMO (which I know you won't want) the whole thing of FB is totally
>>> ridiculous. Add twitter as well.
>> Yikes - we kind of agree - though I don't think it's totally ridiculous,
>> just completely blown out of perspective in usage.
>> Yesterday as we were driving home (carpool, as Nessie in the shop) NPR had
>> a
>> report on about social networking and Gen Yers WRT productivitiy and the
>> "lack of etiquette" in business meetings. Someone had put together a
>> report
>> after studying a good amount of various corporate/businesses and the
>> discussion was centering on the incredible amount of time the Gen Y (20
>> somethings) feel is just fine to be spent doing social networking during
>> the
>> work-day - twitter, facebook, My Space, personal e-mail, texting, etc.
>> It's
>> about 20-25% and more, of the day. While supposedly working - separate
>> from
>> breaks. And that people do not understand when they are requested not to
>> do
>> this during billable work time, or to respect limits of how much personal
>> socializing is going on during the work-day. Then some woman from
>> Deloitte
>> Touche spoke that they feel IIRC up to about 15% of time at work could be
>> spent on social networking - strictly personal - not business networking -
>> as that ensured happy employess who are in touch with families, etc.
>> Pretty
>> amazing. Then this went on to discuss the clash at business meetings
>> now -
>> where the Baby Boomers - now the seniors in a meeting - are rolling their
>> eyes, as the most junior people there are still texting, looking at their
>> Crackberries, and opening lap-tops - even doing e-mail, FB, etc - while at
>> a
>> meeting.
>> I can understand a certain amount of social/personal e-mail happening
>> during
>> the day, and keeping people content, feeling valued is fine. But the
>> non-stop if you unplug me I'll fall apart sense is just absurd. So many
>> of
>> these people cannot structure a coherent sentence, let alone a thought. I
>> think if I were at a business meeting and saw the lack of attention to
>> matters at hand, I'd speak up. If it's not worth the attention of those
>> there, than either it's not worth my time, or they needn't be paid to be
>> there. Even at my "stupid" Caribou job, the manager told me it's a big
>> issue with the younger staff - texting/cell phones. The "ADHD" but very
>> nice 21 year old - cannot put down his cell. Constantly playing with it.
>> The guy can't stay focused long enough to remember an order from the drive
>> -thru for 20 sec to get it entered in the system - let alone complete a
>> task. I am amazed - as the crew are merely texting to people they've just
>> seen or will see wtihin minutes it seems. Oh, well.
>> The whole carry-over of all this shared personal information and lack of
>> respect for business/professional versus personal space and behavior kind
>> of
>> astonishes me. Oh, well, I guess I'm showing my age.
>> Rant off.
>> Ellice
>I also wonder if anyone has a clue how to be alone and depend on themselves
>for entertainment. What will happen to some of these kids when they're
>stuck in with a cranky baby and there's no one to annoy, or the electricity
>goes off because there's a storm, or (gasp) they actually have to decide all
>by themselves whether to buy french bread or kaiser rolls.
They'll probably just bash the baby, or go out and leave it alone.
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>I often hear those moronic conversations in the supermarket about whether to
>get Skippy or Peter Pan and then have some young woman tell me she was
>talking to her 8 year old to find out which he liked better. For heaven's
>sake, you're the mother, you decide for him.
They don't take charge of their kids. I had an argument with a mother
in a stupidmarket about just that. The kid (maybe about 6) was taking
off a shelf and dropping, plastic containers of Maple Syrup. One of
the other two was busy pushing the cart into my ankles.
She was unimpressed so I yelled at her, "Take charge of your kids!"
Whereupon there was a silence, that had the power to embarrass the
idiot.
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>My last comment is a question. Does everyone really want to know every
>time someone goes off to the grocery, or up to bed, or all those ordinary
>things that one does during the day?
>Lucille
They seem to think you do, if you don't, they'll 'poke' you! Back
when I was on FB (which was sometime ago and briefly) I saw someone
say "Just going to take a leak" - sigh. The only one I liked was I
joined as a 'friend' of the then Premier of NS. Everytime he made
moves I didn't think were correct, I wrote that on his wall. Idiot. I
think that was the only real fun I had with the thing :) (rare
smiley, rather more like a sneer)
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Posted by Gillian Murray on June 23, 2009, 7:40 pm
lucretiaborgia@fl.it wrote:
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> wrote:
>
>>>> IMO (which I know you won't want) the whole thing of FB is totally
>>>> ridiculous. Add twitter as well.
>>> Yikes - we kind of agree - though I don't think it's totally ridiculous,
>>> just completely blown out of perspective in usage.
>>> Yesterday as we were driving home (carpool, as Nessie in the shop) NPR had
>>> a
>>> report on about social networking and Gen Yers WRT productivitiy and the
>>> "lack of etiquette" in business meetings. Someone had put together a
>>> report
>>> after studying a good amount of various corporate/businesses and the
>>> discussion was centering on the incredible amount of time the Gen Y (20
>>> somethings) feel is just fine to be spent doing social networking during
>>> the
>>> work-day - twitter, facebook, My Space, personal e-mail, texting, etc.
>>> It's
>>> about 20-25% and more, of the day. While supposedly working - separate
>>> from
>>> breaks. And that people do not understand when they are requested not to
>>> do
>>> this during billable work time, or to respect limits of how much personal
>>> socializing is going on during the work-day. Then some woman from
>>> Deloitte
>>> Touche spoke that they feel IIRC up to about 15% of time at work could be
>>> spent on social networking - strictly personal - not business networking -
>>> as that ensured happy employess who are in touch with families, etc.
>>> Pretty
>>> amazing. Then this went on to discuss the clash at business meetings
>>> now -
>>> where the Baby Boomers - now the seniors in a meeting - are rolling their
>>> eyes, as the most junior people there are still texting, looking at their
>>> Crackberries, and opening lap-tops - even doing e-mail, FB, etc - while at
>>> a
>>> meeting.
>>> I can understand a certain amount of social/personal e-mail happening
>>> during
>>> the day, and keeping people content, feeling valued is fine. But the
>>> non-stop if you unplug me I'll fall apart sense is just absurd. So many
>>> of
>>> these people cannot structure a coherent sentence, let alone a thought. I
>>> think if I were at a business meeting and saw the lack of attention to
>>> matters at hand, I'd speak up. If it's not worth the attention of those
>>> there, than either it's not worth my time, or they needn't be paid to be
>>> there. Even at my "stupid" Caribou job, the manager told me it's a big
>>> issue with the younger staff - texting/cell phones. The "ADHD" but very
>>> nice 21 year old - cannot put down his cell. Constantly playing with it.
>>> The guy can't stay focused long enough to remember an order from the drive
>>> -thru for 20 sec to get it entered in the system - let alone complete a
>>> task. I am amazed - as the crew are merely texting to people they've just
>>> seen or will see wtihin minutes it seems. Oh, well.
>>> The whole carry-over of all this shared personal information and lack of
>>> respect for business/professional versus personal space and behavior kind
>>> of
>>> astonishes me. Oh, well, I guess I'm showing my age.
>>> Rant off.
>>> Ellice
>> I also wonder if anyone has a clue how to be alone and depend on themselves
>> for entertainment. What will happen to some of these kids when they're
>> stuck in with a cranky baby and there's no one to annoy, or the electricity
>> goes off because there's a storm, or (gasp) they actually have to decide all
>> by themselves whether to buy french bread or kaiser rolls.
>
> They'll probably just bash the baby, or go out and leave it alone.
>> I often hear those moronic conversations in the supermarket about whether to
>> get Skippy or Peter Pan and then have some young woman tell me she was
>> talking to her 8 year old to find out which he liked better. For heaven's
>> sake, you're the mother, you decide for him.
>
> They don't take charge of their kids. I had an argument with a mother
> in a stupidmarket about just that. The kid (maybe about 6) was taking
> off a shelf and dropping, plastic containers of Maple Syrup. One of
> the other two was busy pushing the cart into my ankles.
>
> She was unimpressed so I yelled at her, "Take charge of your kids!"
> Whereupon there was a silence, that had the power to embarrass the
> idiot.
>> My last comment is a question. Does everyone really want to know every
>> time someone goes off to the grocery, or up to bed, or all those ordinary
>> things that one does during the day?
>> Lucille
> They seem to think you do, if you don't, they'll 'poke' you! Back
> when I was on FB (which was sometime ago and briefly) I saw someone
> say "Just going to take a leak" - sigh. The only one I liked was I
> joined as a 'friend' of the then Premier of NS. Everytime he made
> moves I didn't think were correct, I wrote that on his wall. Idiot. I
> think that was the only real fun I had with the thing :) (rare
> smiley, rather more like a sneer)
I started to respond to Lucille's earlier comment....and the g-d
computer decided to ask me if a program may update...and erased the thread.
Anyway, I do have a facebook account which I used once to communicate
with my long-lost niece in UK, and my second-cousin whatever also in UK.
My daughter also has a page.
Mine is blank, has no picture. My second cousin posted a whole lot of
family pictures she had from my aunts photo album, mostly all of me were
as a kid. I had seen most of them, but at least I knew who they were.
She didn't know who they all were, so I filled her in.
I can see absolutely no DAMN reason to be in touch with people 24/7.
That is why I spend so much time on the computer; I play games, roam
around, read Sheena's big downloads, and at the same time, I think, mull
and plan.
I have a friend, five years younger than I who, on her cellphone, calls
her mother (across the road in winter) her daughter, her sister, her
son, her grandkids daily!! She said she wanted to die before she is 75,
and I can see why!!
I love to hear from people, but don't need to hear of each fart, burp,
lost sleep etc. Get a life.
Have I pi**ed anyone off yet??
BTW, I keep getting notices from Natalie for me to join her on f-b. Is
that the Natalie I am thinking of from the Reading/ Maidenhead area of
UK, many many years ago??
Life is strange!
Gill
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Posted by Pat P on June 24, 2009, 6:08 am
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> I love to hear from people, but don't need to hear of each fart, burp,
> lost sleep etc. Get a life.
> Have I pi**ed anyone off yet??
> BTW, I keep getting notices from Natalie for me to join her on f-b. Is
> that the Natalie I am thinking of from the Reading/ Maidenhead area of UK,
> many many years ago??
> Life is strange!
> Gill
I`m with you, Gill - I have an account but don`t suppose I`ll ever use it
again. Skype makes more sense to me. Facebook and Twitter are so
superficial - when I reformat I don`t think I`ll even bother to put them
back.
Pat
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>
>> Lucille wrote:
>>> Could your spam filter, or anti-virus program be blocking mail from Face
>>> Book?
>>>
>>
>> I checked my spam and there is nothing there. The odd thing is that
>> I DID get one e-mail from FB in response to my filling out the problem
>> form. That's the one I had to reply to so that they would know I was
>> the person who sent the problem report. Since then, absolutely nothing.
>> I did meander around through the Help Page and found a spot where I
>> could actually write and tell them what the problem was. I'm waiting to
>> see if I get a response to that.
>> I looked everywhere and found absolutely NOTHING that would be a
>> generic "Contact" e-mail. If I don't hear back from this latest problem
>> report, I'm not sure what I will do! There have to be at least a dozen
>> people who have asked me to be a "friend" and I can't accept because I
>> can't sign on! VBS -- what a PITA!!!! CiaoMeow >^;;^<
>>
>> PAX, Tia Mary >^;;^< (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
>> Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about
>> their whiskers!
>> Visit my Photo albums at http://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary
>
>
> IMO (which I know you won't want) the whole thing of FB is totally
> ridiculous. Add twitter as well.