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>
>> On 11/10/09 9:33 AM, in article hdbtkn$lcl$1@news.eternal-september.org,
>>>> On 11/9/09 5:52 PM, in article
>>>> L21Km.179722$Jp1.152391@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com, "Susan Hartman"
>>>>> Lucille wrote:
>>>>>>> Dawne Peterson wrote:
>>>>>>>> "F.James Cripwell" wrote
>>>>>>>> e seen the expression "Hissy fit" used on several occasions on
>>>>>>>> rctn.
>>>>>>>>> Now, Australian Senator Steve Fielding has described a recent
>>>>>>>>> outburst by
>>>>>>>>> Prime Minister Kevin Rudd as having one. So I thought I would
>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>> experts to see what it means. This was in connection with "global
>>>>>>>>> warming".
>>>>>>>>> I have always taken it to mean something artificial, thrown by a
>>>>>>>>> female, to
>>>>>>>>> express annoyance at, or get the attention of, her male
>>>>>>>>> partner. Is
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>>>> I have never known hissy fit to be gender specific. I have seen
>>>>>>>> men
>>>>>>>> throw hissy fits. Some are very good at them. Teenagers are also
>>>>>>>> great at throwing them. For me the connotation has always been one
>>>>>>>> of high pitched emotions (and probably a highpitched voice), and a
>>>>>>>> tantrum that is considerably out of proportion to the situation. I
>>>>>>>> don't think a hissy fit has any ulterior motive, like getting a
>>>>>>>> partner's attention--it is just a highly overwrought reaction.
>>>>>>>> Dawne
>>>>>>> I've thrown a hissy fit or two myself.
>>>>>>> The worst was probably the time we were coming back from Texas. We
>>>>>>> left Memphis Tn and hit a rain storm. After it cleared up, I took my
>>>>>>> rain gear off. However, the motorcycle seat had soaked up a lot of
>>>>>>> water, and you guessed it - my rear end was wet. We rode, and rode,
>>>>>>> and rode - me getting more tired and colder and hungrier.
>>>>>>> The DH has always told me that if I want to slow down or stop, to
>>>>>>> pull
>>>>>>> up past him, and signal by slowing down to the speed I want to
>>>>>>> do, or
>>>>>>> to pull off. I did so ( pass and slow down, that is) only to
>>>>>>> have him
>>>>>>> repass me and turn the speed back up to 70 mph. It is now 6 p.m.
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> we are east of Columbus, Ohio.(about 650 miles) We passed all sorts
>>>>>>> of restaurants and motels and he is showing no sign of stopping.
>>>>>>> I roared passed him to the next exit with a motel - pulled off and
>>>>>>> almost fell off the bike - I was hypothermic. I ranted and raved
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> cried - a true hissy fit.
>>>>>>> It took a hot shower, and lots of hot coffee and food before I
>>>>>>> finally
>>>>>>> stopped shaking. The next morning I said to him - "You were headed
>>>>>>> home last night weren't you?" (We lived in Toronto at the time, at
>>>>>>> least another 425 miles). Sheepishly he said, "Well, yes".
>>>>>>> He's learned that I do not do well when I'm tired, cold and hungry!
>>>>>>> margW
>>>>>> If anyone wants to see or hear a hissy fit, just open your windows
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> listen to me. My bank has been taken over by aliens. A new
>>>>>> bank took
>>>>>> over the old one, today being the official date of the change. I've
>>>>>> never before seen one like this. They took the old bank off this
>>>>>> earth
>>>>>> and sent them to some sort of limbo. Neither the name or any
>>>>>> vestige of
>>>>>> their having been in business remains.
>>>>>> Naturally, and as I fully expected, so far nothing (and I do mean
>>>>>> nothing) has gone right. The old web address no longer exists and a
>>>>>> whole new setup has to be made. The routing and checking account
>>>>>> numbers have changed, just when I finally learned my checking account
>>>>>> number after 15 years. Any CD's or Savings or Money Market Accounts
>>>>>> have new numbers. They sent me new checks and, no surprise, they
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> printed wrong. When I called slightly hysterical and said what do
>>>>>> I use
>>>>>> to pay any bills that still require paper checks they said use the
>>>>>> old. Okay, that's fine, but I only have a few of those knowing they
>>>>>> were sending me new ones and being too cheap to pay for extras. I
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> they will give me some unprinted checks, but that means an extra
>>>>>> trip to
>>>>>> the bank.
>>>>>> Tomorrow I will try the new ATM card they sent me. I've been
>>>>>> told the
>>>>>> old one won't work anymore so this one better work or you'll hear me
>>>>>> screaming again. Does anyone want to take bets on this
>>>>>> situation????
>>>>>> Lucille ;^))
>>>>> I think there's a special category of hissy fit - the total rage I can
>>>>> call up "on command" when dealing with banks, insurance companies,
>>>>> etc.
>>>>> Normally I'm a very easygoing person, and not a squeaky wheel, but
>>>>> sometimes I find if I force myself to be a mean, nasty, hissy-fittin'
>>>>> SOB, I can get things done that wouldn't get done if I'm my nice,
>>>>> normal, easy-goin' self. I sit by the phone, sort of hyperventilate to
>>>>> work up a bit of a froth, and then dial, and start in BAM! on the
>>>>> first
>>>>> person who answers. Mind you, this is never done on the first three or
>>>>> four rounds, but if problems remain unresolved beyond that, I
>>>>> release my
>>>>> "inner bitch" as though playing a part onstage. It takes great energy
>>>>> and is only done as a last resort. And I HATE that that's the way the
>>>>> world seems to work when you get to dealing with bureaucracies.
>>>>> Lucille, tap into your "inner bitch" and let her rip!
>>>>> http://www.power-surge.com/transcripts/hilts.htm
>>>>> Sue (who had it down to an art with our former health insurance
>>>>> company,
>>>>> but the current company is nice as can be, and efficient, to boot!)
>>>>> (And did I mention I got the award for "class thespian" in high
>>>>> school?)
>>>> I have a bank story, in which I truly let out my inner bitch. BUT
>>>> modeled
>>>> my
>>>> behavior on some of the trust fund babies I went to school with.
>>>> BUT
>>>> I think, most humbly, that my finest bitch moment was dealing with Blue
>>>> Cross Blue Shield of MA. I had a large - grapefruit sized cyst on an
>>>> ovary
>>>> that was causing me to black out from pain. My doctor basically
>>>> squeezed
>>>> me
>>>> into surgery with in 48 hours of diagnosis. I had health insurance
>>>> through
>>>> work as CA Parmenter, SSN 123-45-6789 - a salaried engineer at RayCo.
>>>> Doctor
>>>> and hospital filed every as Cheryl A Parmenter SS 123-45-6789.
>>>> Denied - no coverage
>>>> Denied - fraudulent Mr. Parmenter has no registered spousal coverage
>>>> Denied - no such policy holder as Cheryl Parmenter
>>>> All of these were responded to with phone calls from myself and the HR
>>>> department at work. Look idiots, this is the same person and she has
>>>> full
>>>> insurance coverage.
>>>> Last call - high level supervisor, male, fine CA Parmenter is really a
>>>> woman
>>>> and a salaried employee (but seems to doubt I could be an engineer,
>>>> which
>>>> at
>>>> the time had better health benefits from hourly employees) BUT all
>>>> "female
>>>> complaints" need a second opinion. DENIED
>>>> And that folks, is when my gasket blew - in full earshot of my 50 or so
>>>> male
>>>> co-workers.
>>>> OK Mr ABC - would you get a second opinion about a cyst the size of a
>>>> grapefruit on your BALLS.
>>>> Magically - all bills were paid with in hours.
>>>> Cheryl
>>> Why doesn't this surprise me? Maybe because I've had the same kind of
>>> battles with insurance companies, especially BC/BS and the same kind of
>>> reaction.
>>> L
>> I will never have BC/BS again. Supposedly "they're better now" but I'm
>> not
>> risking it...
>> C
>
> Don't believe it. When I wanted off Cobra and called BC/BS besides the
> very high cost they refused to cover my eyes because I had had cataract
> surgery in one eye and they knew (I never asked how they knew) that I
> would shortly need it in the other eye. When I asked, innocently, why
> cataract surgery was a factor if I got something in my eye and wanted to
> visit an ophthalmologist and couldn't there be a note saying no cataract
> surgery in the left eye, they said absolutely not and no treatment for
> eyes, under any circumstances would be covered.
>
> I immediately said, bye bye and swore never to have anything to do with
> them ever again.
>
> Lucille

> Lucille wrote:
>>> On 11/10/09 9:33 AM, in article hdbtkn$lcl$1@news.eternal-september.org,
>>>>> On 11/9/09 5:52 PM, in article
>>>>> L21Km.179722$Jp1.152391@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com, "Susan Hartman"
>>>>>> Lucille wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dawne Peterson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "F.James Cripwell" wrote
>>>>>>>>> e seen the expression "Hissy fit" used on several occasions on
>>>>>>>>> rctn.
>>>>>>>>>> Now, Australian Senator Steve Fielding has described a recent
>>>>>>>>>> outburst by
>>>>>>>>>> Prime Minister Kevin Rudd as having one. So I thought I would
>>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>> experts to see what it means. This was in connection with
>>>>>>>>>> "global
>>>>>>>>>> warming".
>>>>>>>>>> I have always taken it to mean something artificial, thrown by a
>>>>>>>>>> female, to
>>>>>>>>>> express annoyance at, or get the attention of, her male partner.
>>>>>>>>>> Is
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>>>>> I have never known hissy fit to be gender specific. I have seen
>>>>>>>>> men
>>>>>>>>> throw hissy fits. Some are very good at them. Teenagers are also
>>>>>>>>> great at throwing them. For me the connotation has always been
>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> of high pitched emotions (and probably a highpitched voice), and a
>>>>>>>>> tantrum that is considerably out of proportion to the situation.
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> don't think a hissy fit has any ulterior motive, like getting a
>>>>>>>>> partner's attention--it is just a highly overwrought reaction.
>>>>>>>>> Dawne
>>>>>>>> I've thrown a hissy fit or two myself.
>>>>>>>> The worst was probably the time we were coming back from Texas. We
>>>>>>>> left Memphis Tn and hit a rain storm. After it cleared up, I took
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> rain gear off. However, the motorcycle seat had soaked up a lot of
>>>>>>>> water, and you guessed it - my rear end was wet. We rode, and rode,
>>>>>>>> and rode - me getting more tired and colder and hungrier.
>>>>>>>> The DH has always told me that if I want to slow down or stop, to
>>>>>>>> pull
>>>>>>>> up past him, and signal by slowing down to the speed I want to do,
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> to pull off. I did so ( pass and slow down, that is) only to have
>>>>>>>> him
>>>>>>>> repass me and turn the speed back up to 70 mph. It is now 6 p.m.
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> we are east of Columbus, Ohio.(about 650 miles) We passed all
>>>>>>>> sorts
>>>>>>>> of restaurants and motels and he is showing no sign of stopping.
>>>>>>>> I roared passed him to the next exit with a motel - pulled off and
>>>>>>>> almost fell off the bike - I was hypothermic. I ranted and raved
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> cried - a true hissy fit.
>>>>>>>> It took a hot shower, and lots of hot coffee and food before I
>>>>>>>> finally
>>>>>>>> stopped shaking. The next morning I said to him - "You were headed
>>>>>>>> home last night weren't you?" (We lived in Toronto at the time, at
>>>>>>>> least another 425 miles). Sheepishly he said, "Well, yes".
>>>>>>>> He's learned that I do not do well when I'm tired, cold and hungry!
>>>>>>>> margW
>>>>>>> If anyone wants to see or hear a hissy fit, just open your windows
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> listen to me. My bank has been taken over by aliens. A new bank
>>>>>>> took
>>>>>>> over the old one, today being the official date of the change.
>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>> never before seen one like this. They took the old bank off this
>>>>>>> earth
>>>>>>> and sent them to some sort of limbo. Neither the name or any
>>>>>>> vestige of
>>>>>>> their having been in business remains.
>>>>>>> Naturally, and as I fully expected, so far nothing (and I do mean
>>>>>>> nothing) has gone right. The old web address no longer exists and
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> whole new setup has to be made. The routing and checking account
>>>>>>> numbers have changed, just when I finally learned my checking
>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>> number after 15 years. Any CD's or Savings or Money Market Accounts
>>>>>>> have new numbers. They sent me new checks and, no surprise, they
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> printed wrong. When I called slightly hysterical and said what do I
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> to pay any bills that still require paper checks they said use the
>>>>>>> old. Okay, that's fine, but I only have a few of those knowing
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> were sending me new ones and being too cheap to pay for extras. I
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> they will give me some unprinted checks, but that means an extra
>>>>>>> trip to
>>>>>>> the bank.
>>>>>>> Tomorrow I will try the new ATM card they sent me. I've been told
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> old one won't work anymore so this one better work or you'll hear me
>>>>>>> screaming again. Does anyone want to take bets on this
>>>>>>> situation????
>>>>>>> Lucille ;^))
>>>>>> I think there's a special category of hissy fit - the total rage I
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> call up "on command" when dealing with banks, insurance companies,
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>> Normally I'm a very easygoing person, and not a squeaky wheel, but
>>>>>> sometimes I find if I force myself to be a mean, nasty, hissy-fittin'
>>>>>> SOB, I can get things done that wouldn't get done if I'm my nice,
>>>>>> normal, easy-goin' self. I sit by the phone, sort of hyperventilate
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> work up a bit of a froth, and then dial, and start in BAM! on the
>>>>>> first
>>>>>> person who answers. Mind you, this is never done on the first three
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> four rounds, but if problems remain unresolved beyond that, I release
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> "inner bitch" as though playing a part onstage. It takes great energy
>>>>>> and is only done as a last resort. And I HATE that that's the way the
>>>>>> world seems to work when you get to dealing with bureaucracies.
>>>>>> Lucille, tap into your "inner bitch" and let her rip!
>>>>>> http://www.power-surge.com/transcripts/hilts.htm
>>>>>> Sue (who had it down to an art with our former health insurance
>>>>>> company,
>>>>>> but the current company is nice as can be, and efficient, to boot!)
>>>>>> (And did I mention I got the award for "class thespian" in high
>>>>>> school?)
>>>>> I have a bank story, in which I truly let out my inner bitch. BUT
>>>>> modeled
>>>>> my
>>>>> behavior on some of the trust fund babies I went to school with.
>>>>> BUT
>>>>> I think, most humbly, that my finest bitch moment was dealing with
>>>>> Blue
>>>>> Cross Blue Shield of MA. I had a large - grapefruit sized cyst on an
>>>>> ovary
>>>>> that was causing me to black out from pain. My doctor basically
>>>>> squeezed
>>>>> me
>>>>> into surgery with in 48 hours of diagnosis. I had health insurance
>>>>> through
>>>>> work as CA Parmenter, SSN 123-45-6789 - a salaried engineer at RayCo.
>>>>> Doctor
>>>>> and hospital filed every as Cheryl A Parmenter SS 123-45-6789.
>>>>> Denied - no coverage
>>>>> Denied - fraudulent Mr. Parmenter has no registered spousal coverage
>>>>> Denied - no such policy holder as Cheryl Parmenter
>>>>> All of these were responded to with phone calls from myself and the HR
>>>>> department at work. Look idiots, this is the same person and she has
>>>>> full
>>>>> insurance coverage.
>>>>> Last call - high level supervisor, male, fine CA Parmenter is really a
>>>>> woman
>>>>> and a salaried employee (but seems to doubt I could be an engineer,
>>>>> which
>>>>> at
>>>>> the time had better health benefits from hourly employees) BUT all
>>>>> "female
>>>>> complaints" need a second opinion. DENIED
>>>>> And that folks, is when my gasket blew - in full earshot of my 50 or
>>>>> so
>>>>> male
>>>>> co-workers.
>>>>> OK Mr ABC - would you get a second opinion about a cyst the size of a
>>>>> grapefruit on your BALLS.
>>>>> Magically - all bills were paid with in hours.
>>>>> Cheryl
>>>> Why doesn't this surprise me? Maybe because I've had the same kind of
>>>> battles with insurance companies, especially BC/BS and the same kind
>>>> of
>>>> reaction.
>>>> L
>>> I will never have BC/BS again. Supposedly "they're better now" but I'm
>>> not
>>> risking it...
>>> C
>> Don't believe it. When I wanted off Cobra and called BC/BS besides the
>> very high cost they refused to cover my eyes because I had had cataract
>> surgery in one eye and they knew (I never asked how they knew) that I
>> would shortly need it in the other eye. When I asked, innocently, why
>> cataract surgery was a factor if I got something in my eye and wanted to
>> visit an ophthalmologist and couldn't there be a note saying no cataract
>> surgery in the left eye, they said absolutely not and no treatment for
>> eyes, under any circumstances would be covered.
>> I immediately said, bye bye and swore never to have anything to do with
>> them ever again.
>> Lucille
> We had BC/BS of Maryland for many years, and they were difficult to deal
> with. Several hissy fits and many, many hours on the phone.
> The past two years we've had BC/BS of West Virginia, and I can't believe
> the difference!! They're courteous, efficient, and a delight to talk to.
> And I don't think I've ever had to call more than once for the same
> problem.
> So don't judge them all by the measure of one. I wouldn't have believed it
> myself.
> Sue
> --
> Susan Hartman/Dirty Linen
> The Magazine of Folk and World Music
> www.dirtylinen.com

> Lucille wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/10/09 9:33 AM, in article hdbtkn$lcl$1@news.eternal-september.org,
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/9/09 5:52 PM, in article
>>>>> L21Km.179722$Jp1.152391@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com, "Susan Hartman"
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lucille wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dawne Peterson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "F.James Cripwell" wrote
>>>>>>>>> e seen the expression "Hissy fit" used on several occasions on
>>>>>>>>> rctn.
>>>>>>>>>> Now, Australian Senator Steve Fielding has described a recent
>>>>>>>>>> outburst by
>>>>>>>>>> Prime Minister Kevin Rudd as having one. So I thought I would
>>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>> experts to see what it means. This was in connection with "global
>>>>>>>>>> warming".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have always taken it to mean something artificial, thrown by a
>>>>>>>>>> female, to
>>>>>>>>>> express annoyance at, or get the attention of, her male
>>>>>>>>>> partner. Is
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have never known hissy fit to be gender specific. I have seen
>>>>>>>>> men
>>>>>>>>> throw hissy fits. Some are very good at them. Teenagers are also
>>>>>>>>> great at throwing them. For me the connotation has always been one
>>>>>>>>> of high pitched emotions (and probably a highpitched voice), and a
>>>>>>>>> tantrum that is considerably out of proportion to the situation. I
>>>>>>>>> don't think a hissy fit has any ulterior motive, like getting a
>>>>>>>>> partner's attention--it is just a highly overwrought reaction.
>>>>>>>>> Dawne
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've thrown a hissy fit or two myself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The worst was probably the time we were coming back from Texas. We
>>>>>>>> left Memphis Tn and hit a rain storm. After it cleared up, I took my
>>>>>>>> rain gear off. However, the motorcycle seat had soaked up a lot of
>>>>>>>> water, and you guessed it - my rear end was wet. We rode, and rode,
>>>>>>>> and rode - me getting more tired and colder and hungrier.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The DH has always told me that if I want to slow down or stop, to
>>>>>>>> pull
>>>>>>>> up past him, and signal by slowing down to the speed I want to
>>>>>>>> do, or
>>>>>>>> to pull off. I did so ( pass and slow down, that is) only to
>>>>>>>> have him
>>>>>>>> repass me and turn the speed back up to 70 mph. It is now 6 p.m.
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> we are east of Columbus, Ohio.(about 650 miles) We passed all sorts
>>>>>>>> of restaurants and motels and he is showing no sign of stopping.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I roared passed him to the next exit with a motel - pulled off and
>>>>>>>> almost fell off the bike - I was hypothermic. I ranted and raved
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> cried - a true hissy fit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It took a hot shower, and lots of hot coffee and food before I
>>>>>>>> finally
>>>>>>>> stopped shaking. The next morning I said to him - "You were headed
>>>>>>>> home last night weren't you?" (We lived in Toronto at the time, at
>>>>>>>> least another 425 miles). Sheepishly he said, "Well, yes".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He's learned that I do not do well when I'm tired, cold and hungry!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> margW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If anyone wants to see or hear a hissy fit, just open your windows
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> listen to me. My bank has been taken over by aliens. A new
>>>>>>> bank took
>>>>>>> over the old one, today being the official date of the change. I've
>>>>>>> never before seen one like this. They took the old bank off this
>>>>>>> earth
>>>>>>> and sent them to some sort of limbo. Neither the name or any
>>>>>>> vestige of
>>>>>>> their having been in business remains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Naturally, and as I fully expected, so far nothing (and I do mean
>>>>>>> nothing) has gone right. The old web address no longer exists and a
>>>>>>> whole new setup has to be made. The routing and checking account
>>>>>>> numbers have changed, just when I finally learned my checking account
>>>>>>> number after 15 years. Any CD's or Savings or Money Market Accounts
>>>>>>> have new numbers. They sent me new checks and, no surprise, they
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> printed wrong. When I called slightly hysterical and said what do
>>>>>>> I use
>>>>>>> to pay any bills that still require paper checks they said use the
>>>>>>> old. Okay, that's fine, but I only have a few of those knowing they
>>>>>>> were sending me new ones and being too cheap to pay for extras. I
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> they will give me some unprinted checks, but that means an extra
>>>>>>> trip to
>>>>>>> the bank.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tomorrow I will try the new ATM card they sent me. I've been
>>>>>>> told the
>>>>>>> old one won't work anymore so this one better work or you'll hear me
>>>>>>> screaming again. Does anyone want to take bets on this
>>>>>>> situation????
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lucille ;^))
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think there's a special category of hissy fit - the total rage I can
>>>>>> call up "on command" when dealing with banks, insurance companies,
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Normally I'm a very easygoing person, and not a squeaky wheel, but
>>>>>> sometimes I find if I force myself to be a mean, nasty, hissy-fittin'
>>>>>> SOB, I can get things done that wouldn't get done if I'm my nice,
>>>>>> normal, easy-goin' self. I sit by the phone, sort of hyperventilate to
>>>>>> work up a bit of a froth, and then dial, and start in BAM! on the
>>>>>> first
>>>>>> person who answers. Mind you, this is never done on the first three or
>>>>>> four rounds, but if problems remain unresolved beyond that, I
>>>>>> release my
>>>>>> "inner bitch" as though playing a part onstage. It takes great energy
>>>>>> and is only done as a last resort. And I HATE that that's the way the
>>>>>> world seems to work when you get to dealing with bureaucracies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lucille, tap into your "inner bitch" and let her rip!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.power-surge.com/transcripts/hilts.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sue (who had it down to an art with our former health insurance
>>>>>> company,
>>>>>> but the current company is nice as can be, and efficient, to boot!)
>>>>>> (And did I mention I got the award for "class thespian" in high
>>>>>> school?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a bank story, in which I truly let out my inner bitch. BUT
>>>>> modeled
>>>>> my
>>>>> behavior on some of the trust fund babies I went to school with.
>>>>>
>>>>> BUT
>>>>>
>>>>> I think, most humbly, that my finest bitch moment was dealing with Blue
>>>>> Cross Blue Shield of MA. I had a large - grapefruit sized cyst on an
>>>>> ovary
>>>>> that was causing me to black out from pain. My doctor basically
>>>>> squeezed
>>>>> me
>>>>> into surgery with in 48 hours of diagnosis. I had health insurance
>>>>> through
>>>>> work as CA Parmenter, SSN 123-45-6789 - a salaried engineer at RayCo.
>>>>> Doctor
>>>>> and hospital filed every as Cheryl A Parmenter SS 123-45-6789.
>>>>>
>>>>> Denied - no coverage
>>>>> Denied - fraudulent Mr. Parmenter has no registered spousal coverage
>>>>> Denied - no such policy holder as Cheryl Parmenter
>>>>>
>>>>> All of these were responded to with phone calls from myself and the HR
>>>>> department at work. Look idiots, this is the same person and she has
>>>>> full
>>>>> insurance coverage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Last call - high level supervisor, male, fine CA Parmenter is really a
>>>>> woman
>>>>> and a salaried employee (but seems to doubt I could be an engineer,
>>>>> which
>>>>> at
>>>>> the time had better health benefits from hourly employees) BUT all
>>>>> "female
>>>>> complaints" need a second opinion. DENIED
>>>>>
>>>>> And that folks, is when my gasket blew - in full earshot of my 50 or so
>>>>> male
>>>>> co-workers.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK Mr ABC - would you get a second opinion about a cyst the size of a
>>>>> grapefruit on your BALLS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Magically - all bills were paid with in hours.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why doesn't this surprise me? Maybe because I've had the same kind of
>>>> battles with insurance companies, especially BC/BS and the same kind of
>>>> reaction.
>>>>
>>>> L
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I will never have BC/BS again. Supposedly "they're better now" but I'm
>>> not
>>> risking it...
>>> C
>>>
>>
>> Don't believe it. When I wanted off Cobra and called BC/BS besides the
>> very high cost they refused to cover my eyes because I had had cataract
>> surgery in one eye and they knew (I never asked how they knew) that I
>> would shortly need it in the other eye. When I asked, innocently, why
>> cataract surgery was a factor if I got something in my eye and wanted to
>> visit an ophthalmologist and couldn't there be a note saying no cataract
>> surgery in the left eye, they said absolutely not and no treatment for
>> eyes, under any circumstances would be covered.
>>
>> I immediately said, bye bye and swore never to have anything to do with
>> them ever again.
>>
>> Lucille
>
>
> We had BC/BS of Maryland for many years, and they were difficult to deal
> with. Several hissy fits and many, many hours on the phone.
>
> The past two years we've had BC/BS of West Virginia, and I can't believe
> the difference!! They're courteous, efficient, and a delight to talk to.
> And I don't think I've ever had to call more than once for the same problem.
>
> So don't judge them all by the measure of one. I wouldn't have believed
> it myself.
>
> Sue

> On 11/9/09 5:52 PM, in article
> L21Km.179722$Jp1.152391@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com, "Susan Hartman"
>
>> Lucille wrote:
>>>

>>
>> Lucille, tap into your "inner bitch" and let her rip!
>>
>> http://www.power-surge.com/transcripts/hilts.htm
>>
>> Sue (who had it down to an art with our former health insurance company,
>> but the current company is nice as can be, and efficient, to boot!)
>> (And did I mention I got the award for "class thespian" in high school?)
>>
>
>
> I have a bank story, in which I truly let out my inner bitch. BUT modeled my
> behavior on some of the trust fund babies I went to school with.
>
> BUT
>
> I think, most humbly, that my finest bitch moment was dealing with Blue
> Cross Blue Shield of MA. I had a large - grapefruit sized cyst on an ovary
> that was causing me to black out from pain. My doctor basically squeezed me
> into surgery with in 48 hours of diagnosis. I had health insurance through
> work as CA Parmenter, SSN 123-45-6789 - a salaried engineer at RayCo. Doctor
> and hospital filed every as Cheryl A Parmenter SS 123-45-6789.
>
> Denied - no coverage
> Denied - fraudulent Mr. Parmenter has no registered spousal coverage
> Denied - no such policy holder as Cheryl Parmenter
>
> All of these were responded to with phone calls from myself and the HR
> department at work. Look idiots, this is the same person and she has full
> insurance coverage.
>
> Last call - high level supervisor, male, fine CA Parmenter is really a woman
> and a salaried employee (but seems to doubt I could be an engineer, which at
> the time had better health benefits from hourly employees) BUT all "female
> complaints" need a second opinion. DENIED
>
> And that folks, is when my gasket blew - in full earshot of my 50 or so male
> co-workers.
>
> OK Mr ABC - would you get a second opinion about a cyst the size of a
> grapefruit on your BALLS.
>
> Magically - all bills were paid with in hours.
>
>
> Cheryl

>
>> On 11/9/09 5:52 PM, in article
>> L21Km.179722$Jp1.152391@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com, "Susan Hartman"
>>
>>> Lucille wrote:
>>>>
>
> *snip*
>>>
>>> Lucille, tap into your "inner bitch" and let her rip!
>>>
>>> http://www.power-surge.com/transcripts/hilts.htm
>>>
>>> Sue (who had it down to an art with our former health insurance company,
>>> but the current company is nice as can be, and efficient, to boot!)
>>> (And did I mention I got the award for "class thespian" in high school?)
>>>
>>
>>
>> I have a bank story, in which I truly let out my inner bitch. BUT modeled my
>> behavior on some of the trust fund babies I went to school with.
>>
>> BUT
>>
>> I think, most humbly, that my finest bitch moment was dealing with Blue
>> Cross Blue Shield of MA. I had a large - grapefruit sized cyst on an ovary
>> that was causing me to black out from pain. My doctor basically squeezed me
>> into surgery with in 48 hours of diagnosis. I had health insurance through
>> work as CA Parmenter, SSN 123-45-6789 - a salaried engineer at RayCo. Doctor
>> and hospital filed every as Cheryl A Parmenter SS 123-45-6789.
>>
>> Denied - no coverage
>> Denied - fraudulent Mr. Parmenter has no registered spousal coverage
>> Denied - no such policy holder as Cheryl Parmenter
>>
>> All of these were responded to with phone calls from myself and the HR
>> department at work. Look idiots, this is the same person and she has full
>> insurance coverage.
>>
>> Last call - high level supervisor, male, fine CA Parmenter is really a woman
>> and a salaried employee (but seems to doubt I could be an engineer, which at
>> the time had better health benefits from hourly employees) BUT all "female
>> complaints" need a second opinion. DENIED
>>
>> And that folks, is when my gasket blew - in full earshot of my 50 or so male
>> co-workers.
>>
>> OK Mr ABC - would you get a second opinion about a cyst the size of a
>> grapefruit on your BALLS.
>>
>> Magically - all bills were paid with in hours.
>>
>>
>> Cheryl
>
> Great story. When I had the little uterine problem, plus they were removing
> part of an ovary, I was in the hospital for supposedly 4 days. Which turned
> into 6 or 7 days because the surgery was more severe, and they couldn't do a
> "bikini line" incision so required longer stay, etc. Anyhow, my doctor
> comes in on day 2 and says, hmmmm, your insurance company is now denying
> claim. So, I call them - from the bed - because the hospital admin claims
> person has come up. I'm on meds, argue with hospital person, essentially
> similar to you Cheryl, and then call insurance company. Get to supervisor,
> trying logic, and finally, oh, we're sorry, and of course all is covered.
> Um, no, this wasn't a laporoscopy outpatient hing, but had been
> pre-certified for in hospital, with some contingencies depending on tumor
> sizes, etc. Now on day 4 - when I'm barely walking - hospital admin comes
> in and tells me that she has decided I could go home, because they have to
> daily contact insurance to be sure that all is covered for everyday after 3,
> and well, lucky me, they covered today, but you should go home today. Of
> course, several things have to be a go before you can be released, and I ask
> her if she's a doctor. Of course now my doctor comes in, and is blowing a
> gasket at the admin, to whom I just essentially tell - you're not a doctor,
> or medical professional, you have no medical education to be making a
> patient assessment, and I'll take care of this. Call the insurance company,
> they call doctor's office - all is fine - they just needed the confirmation
> from the doctor that I would require 6 days, and let them know if it'll be
> over a week. It was the hospital administrator being an ass - 'cause the
> insurance rate of course is a lesser reimbursement than some of the other
> carriers.
>
> It's so important to be your own advocate, but I've learned to resist the
> yelling - however DH says that I have a certain very cold, emphatic, scarey
> tone of voice which works quite well for the "inner bitch" kind of thing.
> Works great on the ice with the "go to the box, NOW" kind of comment.
>
> Ellice
>