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Posted by on June 16, 2009, 10:07 am
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:57:10 -0500, Dianne Lewandowski
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>lucretiaborgia@fl.it wrote:
>> I may not care for Bill Gates but it is MS that has made the computer
>> the common household item that it is. Then again, I am probably lying
>> about that too.
>Actually, Tandy, Atari, and Commodore hooked the "common man" and helped
>to get the computer off the ground. Apple, at that time, was slower than
>molasses in January. Their graphics were great, but the Atari - at the
>time - beat it. Apple got its start in schools, therefore hooking
>parents. We started with Tandy because of the support - when a 50 meg
>hard drive was $500. Something not working? Take it to Radio Shack.
>They'll get it working for you at no charge and teach you all about it.
> It was a fun time.
>Microsoft did it all by unfair competition. All's fair in love and war,
>I guess. We still use XP. Not sure if we'll upgrade. Our computers
>work fine. They're fast. Graphics are on par with MAC. And we have few
>lock ups . . . though they happen.
>Dianne
True enough we started with a Commodore 64 but went directly to Win32
(think that was it - too long ago) - mind you the very first thing in
the house was Pong ! I see you can get a simulation online now, I
can't imagine!
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Posted by ellice on June 17, 2009, 2:49 pm
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> lucretiaborgia@fl.it wrote:
>> I may not care for Bill Gates but it is MS that has made the computer
>> the common household item that it is. Then again, I am probably lying
>> about that too.
>
> Actually, Tandy, Atari, and Commodore hooked the "common man" and helped
> to get the computer off the ground. Apple, at that time, was slower than
> molasses in January. Their graphics were great, but the Atari - at the
> time - beat it. Apple got its start in schools, therefore hooking
> parents. We started with Tandy because of the support - when a 50 meg
> hard drive was $500. Something not working? Take it to Radio Shack.
> They'll get it working for you at no charge and teach you all about it.
> It was a fun time.
Great memory, Dianne. I remember working for Radio Shack, and the TS-80 (or
as we called it the Trash 80). But then Apple had some come out that were
pretty fine.
When the first Macs came out, that was about the same time as the first IBM
PCs. The little Mac was much better - and at that time not much pricier.
But, things changed. I remember people flocking to use our first Mac in the
office in grad school - versus the PC.
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> Microsoft did it all by unfair competition. All's fair in love and war,
Hence the many years long anti-trust suit against MS.
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> I guess. We still use XP. Not sure if we'll upgrade. Our computers
> work fine. They're fast. Graphics are on par with MAC. And we have few
> lock ups . . . though they happen.
>
> Dianne
Lots of choices and decisions. DH still uses a Dell for his official at
work lap-top - but the next machine is going to be a new MacBook of some
sort. Given it will run Windows natively, that makes some specialty things
- like being able to see how a presentation looks on a Windows platform -
better for him.
Today's happy dance - our new printer just got here. Epson Artisan 800.
Has super HD scanning capability - and our everyday printer has kind of
died. So, we looked and decided to get what DH really wanted (so we can
scan photos at 4800 dpi) rather than spend less now, and then still get this
in a while. Now I have to get it set-up. Woo hoo. Can't wait to play with
the software - evidently this does a lot of stand alone things, and has
software designed for photo restoration - which is what we got it for -
scanning in all the old family photos.
ellice
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Posted by MelissaD on June 18, 2009, 4:28 pm
ellice wrote:
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>> lucretiaborgia@fl.it wrote:
>>> I may not care for Bill Gates but it is MS that has made the computer
>>> the common household item that it is. Then again, I am probably lying
>>> about that too.
>> Actually, Tandy, Atari, and Commodore hooked the "common man" and helped
>> to get the computer off the ground. Apple, at that time, was slower than
>> molasses in January. Their graphics were great, but the Atari - at the
>> time - beat it. Apple got its start in schools, therefore hooking
>> parents. We started with Tandy because of the support - when a 50 meg
>> hard drive was $500. Something not working? Take it to Radio Shack.
>> They'll get it working for you at no charge and teach you all about it.
>> It was a fun time.
>
> Great memory, Dianne. I remember working for Radio Shack, and the TS-80 (or
> as we called it the Trash 80). But then Apple had some come out that were
> pretty fine.
>
> When the first Macs came out, that was about the same time as the first IBM
> PCs. The little Mac was much better - and at that time not much pricier.
> But, things changed. I remember people flocking to use our first Mac in the
> office in grad school - versus the PC.
>
>> Microsoft did it all by unfair competition. All's fair in love and war,
>
> Hence the many years long anti-trust suit against MS.
>
>> I guess. We still use XP. Not sure if we'll upgrade. Our computers
>> work fine. They're fast. Graphics are on par with MAC. And we have few
>> lock ups . . . though they happen.
>> Dianne
>
> Lots of choices and decisions. DH still uses a Dell for his official at
> work lap-top - but the next machine is going to be a new MacBook of some
> sort. Given it will run Windows natively, that makes some specialty things
> - like being able to see how a presentation looks on a Windows platform -
> better for him.
>
> Today's happy dance - our new printer just got here. Epson Artisan 800.
> Has super HD scanning capability - and our everyday printer has kind of
> died. So, we looked and decided to get what DH really wanted (so we can
> scan photos at 4800 dpi) rather than spend less now, and then still get this
> in a while. Now I have to get it set-up. Woo hoo. Can't wait to play with
> the software - evidently this does a lot of stand alone things, and has
> software designed for photo restoration - which is what we got it for -
> scanning in all the old family photos.
>
> ellice
>
I remember a relative giving us their hand-me-down Trash 80 when I was
younger and my mom and I got totally hooked on a game - you were a lord
of a fiefdom and had to take care of your serfs and soldiers and try to
build an empire without getting killed off in your cold and drafty
castle over the long winters....too funny - it wasn't much more than
Pong or Dos type graphics but we played for hours! LOL
MelissaD
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Posted by Dianne Lewandowski on June 18, 2009, 6:25 pm
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> I remember a relative giving us their hand-me-down Trash 80 when I was
> younger and my mom and I got totally hooked on a game - you were a lord
> of a fiefdom and had to take care of your serfs and soldiers and try to
> build an empire without getting killed off in your cold and drafty
> castle over the long winters....too funny - it wasn't much more than
> Pong or Dos type graphics but we played for hours! LOL
>
> MelissaD
How about the very first games: text only driven. No animation.
Stories with mazes to get through, puzzles to solve.
Dianne
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Posted by Cheryl Isaak on June 19, 2009, 6:48 am
On 6/18/09 6:25 PM, in article 79vt7gF1sj8heU1@mid.individual.net, "Dianne
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>> I remember a relative giving us their hand-me-down Trash 80 when I was
>> younger and my mom and I got totally hooked on a game - you were a lord
>> of a fiefdom and had to take care of your serfs and soldiers and try to
>> build an empire without getting killed off in your cold and drafty
>> castle over the long winters....too funny - it wasn't much more than
>> Pong or Dos type graphics but we played for hours! LOL
>>
>> MelissaD
>
> How about the very first games: text only driven. No animation.
> Stories with mazes to get through, puzzles to solve.
>
> Dianne
I just found an app that will let me play some of those on my iPhone. I
conquered Zork in multiple formats and played Adventure until my access to
that computer went away.
I love that style game and they just donšt exist like that. I'd rather draw
my maze than have it there in front of me. I knew a guy that went on to
write some of the next gen games for Infocom.
Turns out that if you have a Mac, you can down load Zork. OH NO, here we go
again!
Cheryl
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>> I may not care for Bill Gates but it is MS that has made the computer
>> the common household item that it is. Then again, I am probably lying
>> about that too.
>Actually, Tandy, Atari, and Commodore hooked the "common man" and helped
>to get the computer off the ground. Apple, at that time, was slower than
>molasses in January. Their graphics were great, but the Atari - at the
>time - beat it. Apple got its start in schools, therefore hooking
>parents. We started with Tandy because of the support - when a 50 meg
>hard drive was $500. Something not working? Take it to Radio Shack.
>They'll get it working for you at no charge and teach you all about it.
> It was a fun time.
>Microsoft did it all by unfair competition. All's fair in love and war,
>I guess. We still use XP. Not sure if we'll upgrade. Our computers
>work fine. They're fast. Graphics are on par with MAC. And we have few
>lock ups . . . though they happen.
>Dianne