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Posted by Bruce Fletcher (remove denture on June 2, 2009, 6:35 am
Sara wrote:
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> Not far from you, Sue, in Dover, and we're overrun with bunnies too.
> There seem to be lots more than in previous years, and I haven't seen
> the foxes that go through my backyard in ages. The (indoor) cat was
> all fuzzed up at a deer yesterday morning, but deer are just another
> plague. Not that I wish horrible diseases on any of them; it's just
> that the natural order is disordered.
There are no predators on this island apart from a few feral cats so we
have rabbits aplenty, although there are still traces of myxomatosis
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<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myxomatosis>; one side-effect of this is
that the domestic fowls (hens, ducks & geese) don't need to be penned up
at night.
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Bruce Fletcher
Stronsay, Orkney UK
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Posted by on June 2, 2009, 7:27 am
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>On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:08:00 -0400, Susan Hartman
>>We have a gazillion-jillion bunnies on my Baltimore street this year. In
>>the past few years, numbers have been way down - probably due to the
>>resident fox. This year it's a bumper crop...I counted a dozen just
>>driving down my short block the other night. (DH was driving, that is,
>>NOT the bunnies. <VBG>)
>>Sue
>Not far from you, Sue, in Dover, and we're overrun with bunnies too.
>There seem to be lots more than in previous years, and I haven't seen
>the foxes that go through my backyard in ages. The (indoor) cat was
>all fuzzed up at a deer yesterday morning, but deer are just another
>plague. Not that I wish horrible diseases on any of them; it's just
>that the natural order is disordered.
>Sara
Very often that is because humans have built their houses in what was
formerly, their domain.
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Posted by Susan Hartman on June 2, 2009, 10:15 am
Sara wrote:
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> On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:08:00 -0400, Susan Hartman
>
>> We have a gazillion-jillion bunnies on my Baltimore street this year. In
>> the past few years, numbers have been way down - probably due to the
>> resident fox. This year it's a bumper crop...I counted a dozen just
>> driving down my short block the other night. (DH was driving, that is,
>> NOT the bunnies. <VBG>)
>> Sue
>
> Not far from you, Sue, in Dover, and we're overrun with bunnies too.
> There seem to be lots more than in previous years, and I haven't seen
> the foxes that go through my backyard in ages. The (indoor) cat was
> all fuzzed up at a deer yesterday morning, but deer are just another
> plague. Not that I wish horrible diseases on any of them; it's just
> that the natural order is disordered.
>
> Sara
>
I had this discussion with my mom just the other night. She's just moved
into a retirement home that's adjacent to a college campus, and
deliberately chose the campus side so she can enjoy the natural woods
that the college deliberately doesn't "maintain" in order to keep the
area more natural. (i.e., when trees fall, they're left in situ to rot,
just as they would in a natural wood.)
Two years ago the college was going to have a controlled deer hunt (with
bows and arrows, I think) in the winter while students were gone in
order to limit the deer herd, which had grown to unsustainable levels.
Students (and others, of course) got wind of it and protested and they
called off the hunt.
So the other night Mom said, "It's terrible that they don't feed the
deer in the winter." (Parroting an opinion of someone else in the
building, I imagine, since she's only lived there two weeks.) And I
said, "But that will only maintain the already overburdening status quo
and encourage more deer. And undermine the intention to keep the area in
its natural state." This campus is "inside the beltway" in an urban
area, and if they don't control numbers, we'll see the deer running
across highways, out into major boulevards, and *that* will wreak havoc
as well.
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<sigh> There's no easy answer. Either they allow a hunt, or let them
starve. Either way, it's painful to watch, but necessary, IMHO.
Sue
--
Susan Hartman/Dirty Linen
The Magazine of Folk and World Music
www.dirtylinen.com
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Posted by Gillian Murray on June 2, 2009, 10:38 am
Susan Hartman wrote:
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> Sara wrote:
>> On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:08:00 -0400, Susan Hartman
>>> We have a gazillion-jillion bunnies on my Baltimore street this year.
>>> In the past few years, numbers have been way down - probably due to
>>> the resident fox. This year it's a bumper crop...I counted a dozen
>>> just driving down my short block the other night. (DH was driving,
>>> that is, NOT the bunnies. <VBG>)
>>> Sue
>> Not far from you, Sue, in Dover, and we're overrun with bunnies too.
>> There seem to be lots more than in previous years, and I haven't seen
>> the foxes that go through my backyard in ages. The (indoor) cat was
>> all fuzzed up at a deer yesterday morning, but deer are just another
>> plague. Not that I wish horrible diseases on any of them; it's just
>> that the natural order is disordered.
>> Sara
>
> I had this discussion with my mom just the other night. She's just moved
> into a retirement home that's adjacent to a college campus, and
> deliberately chose the campus side so she can enjoy the natural woods
> that the college deliberately doesn't "maintain" in order to keep the
> area more natural. (i.e., when trees fall, they're left in situ to rot,
> just as they would in a natural wood.)
>
> Two years ago the college was going to have a controlled deer hunt (with
> bows and arrows, I think) in the winter while students were gone in
> order to limit the deer herd, which had grown to unsustainable levels.
> Students (and others, of course) got wind of it and protested and they
> called off the hunt.
>
> So the other night Mom said, "It's terrible that they don't feed the
> deer in the winter." (Parroting an opinion of someone else in the
> building, I imagine, since she's only lived there two weeks.) And I
> said, "But that will only maintain the already overburdening status quo
> and encourage more deer. And undermine the intention to keep the area in
> its natural state." This campus is "inside the beltway" in an urban
> area, and if they don't control numbers, we'll see the deer running
> across highways, out into major boulevards, and *that* will wreak havoc
> as well.
>
> <sigh> There's no easy answer. Either they allow a hunt, or let them
> starve. Either way, it's painful to watch, but necessary, IMHO.
>
> Sue
>
Is that Towson, Sue?? DD went there eons ago.
Gill
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Posted by Pat P on June 2, 2009, 4:38 pm
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> Susan Hartman wrote:
>> Sara wrote:
>>> On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:08:00 -0400, Susan Hartman
>>>> We have a gazillion-jillion bunnies on my Baltimore street this year.
>>>> In the past few years, numbers have been way down - probably due to the
>>>> resident fox. This year it's a bumper crop...I counted a dozen just
>>>> driving down my short block the other night. (DH was driving, that is,
>>>> NOT the bunnies. <VBG>)
>>>> Sue
>>> Not far from you, Sue, in Dover, and we're overrun with bunnies too.
>>> There seem to be lots more than in previous years, and I haven't seen
>>> the foxes that go through my backyard in ages. The (indoor) cat was
>>> all fuzzed up at a deer yesterday morning, but deer are just another
>>> plague. Not that I wish horrible diseases on any of them; it's just
>>> that the natural order is disordered.
>>> Sara
>> I had this discussion with my mom just the other night. She's just moved
>> into a retirement home that's adjacent to a college campus, and
>> deliberately chose the campus side so she can enjoy the natural woods
>> that the college deliberately doesn't "maintain" in order to keep the
>> area more natural. (i.e., when trees fall, they're left in situ to rot,
>> just as they would in a natural wood.)
>> Two years ago the college was going to have a controlled deer hunt (with
>> bows and arrows, I think) in the winter while students were gone in order
>> to limit the deer herd, which had grown to unsustainable levels. Students
>> (and others, of course) got wind of it and protested and they called off
>> the hunt.
>> So the other night Mom said, "It's terrible that they don't feed the deer
>> in the winter." (Parroting an opinion of someone else in the building, I
>> imagine, since she's only lived there two weeks.) And I said, "But that
>> will only maintain the already overburdening status quo and encourage
>> more deer. And undermine the intention to keep the area in its natural
>> state." This campus is "inside the beltway" in an urban area, and if they
>> don't control numbers, we'll see the deer running across highways, out
>> into major boulevards, and *that* will wreak havoc as well.
>> <sigh> There's no easy answer. Either they allow a hunt, or let them
>> starve. Either way, it's painful to watch, but necessary, IMHO.
>> Sue
> Is that Towson, Sue?? DD went there eons ago.
> Gill
We`re overrun with deer almost as badly as with rabbits - and they have to
cull them quite often. There are always deer causing road accidents, or
just getting hit by cars. Jane and Peter are listed by the police as deer
stalkers, and are frequently called out to put a deer out of it`s misery.
People think they do well for venison, but a traumatised deer is no good for
eating (makes `em tough).
Pat
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> There seem to be lots more than in previous years, and I haven't seen
> the foxes that go through my backyard in ages. The (indoor) cat was
> all fuzzed up at a deer yesterday morning, but deer are just another
> plague. Not that I wish horrible diseases on any of them; it's just
> that the natural order is disordered.