Re: OT: Canadians in Hell

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Subject: Re: OT: Canadians in Hell



:))  I noticed Ovechkin led the league this year with shots on goal...392!
Maybe his aim is off? OK...I'm just teasing a bit! :))  There is no
disputing that Ovechkin is a great player but Crosby
has had an even more impressive season considering all the media attention
he has had to endure.  The league has put more responsibility on this young
man than any 19 year old player should have had to carry and yet he did so
with maturity beyond his years. Hopefully he can stay healthy and continue
to improve and earn a place in hockey's history....that story is yet to be
written.



You really shouldn't hate the Penguins...they brough back more fans  to the
games then any other team...at a time when the league is really hurting.
Every team in the league wants to have games shedualled with them just to
boost their attendance!  Hockey isn't the #1 sport..especially not in the
US.

 I

Tomorrow afternoon's game should be fun and will probably determine if the
Penguins
are playoff material. It take a whole team playing at their best to win a
Stanley Cup!

Mavia....more of a baseball fan than hockey!

 

LOL - you show the typical Canadian attitude - Crosby is sooooo much better
;^)   Still haven't gotten over Alex the Russian winning the Calder last
year....  Seriously - they're both great talents, and evidently fine young
men.  At least for Sid the kid, he has a real team with some veteran talent
playing on his line, on his team - both these seasons. Unlike poor Alex who
has also been expected to carry a team that doesn't have forwards of
veteran, good caliber to go with.  I think they both get quite a bit of
media, though I'd expect the media coverage on Sid is much more in Canada.

Of course, I do have to note that he did leave to go play his prep hockey in
Minnesote  ;^)


Well, they brought back fans after many years of not doing so.  I'm a big
Mario fan, and lived in Pgh when he was drafted.  But, their fans are truly
horrible on the road.  And horrible to visiting fans when you're there.  The
CAPS and Pens have a long standing history of horrible play-off runs between
them - they are like a curse for the CAPS.


Absolutely - which goes back to Alex and his shots.  He takes a lot, but
doesn't have the follow-up around him, or the protection, adjuncts with him.
He is however, a very conscientious and 2-way player.  And also - the team
thing - why I hate the shoot-out.  While it's fun to watch - it's a stupid
way of turning a team sport into an individual skills type thing, a.k.a
soccer.

Ellice - definitely more of a hockey fan, but I'll do baseball, too.

 

It's not a Canadian attitude OR media hype. Crosby's performance this season
has proven his ability. He was the youngest player to post 200 career points
and the
youngest player to win the Art Ross.

He did this while taking over the leadership of his own cellar dwellar
team which hadn't made the playoffs since 2002. The NHL was still
reeling after the 2004-5 lockout season, struggling to regain its lost fans
and sports $s. Crosby didn't avoid the media or try to fly under the radar
but instead gave freely of his time and attendance rocketed where ever he
played.


Ovechkin had an impressive rookie season and deserved to win it.


I haven't seen enough Capital's games to know how they play their lines but
the
average age of both teams is around 26-27. 10 of the Penguin players were
called up from
last years AHL or OHL.  Hardly a team loaded with veterans players


????...he hadn't any choice as he wasn't allowed to play major junior
hockey, as an
underage player, here at home. He had to play competitivly somewhere. He
created
new scoring records there and by the way and lead the school to a national
title.


Mavia - hoping to see today's game while minding grandkids! Not
a good mix! :)

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 and entertained us with

I don't follow hockey but I have to say I have perforce followed some
of Sid's career.   Above all, he comes over as a very nice young man,
with his head on the right way and just like Gretsky (who was the
same) he has detractors who only think loud mouths are of any value.
Go Sid, Go !

 

Ummm, just to be clear, in no way I have ever bad-mouthed, or loud-mouthed
or defamed Sid Crosby.  In point of fact, all that I said is he's a great
talent, and a fine young man.  I did, however, insert the tease about him
playing prep in Minnesota.  Oh, well.

However, my little point, take it or not, is that as Sid Crosby is a
Canadian, and Alex Ovechkin a Russian, and they came into the league at the
same time - there has been some attitude of tending towards downplaying
Ovechkin while doing the reverse with respect to Crosby.  For those who
follow the hockey press, during last season, there was much ado in the media
with respect to those two, and pushing for Crosby to win the Calder (rookie
award), as is natural - but a kind of beyond Alex winning the scoring award,
but having to do even more.  Media reports and communities tend to some bias
- so it doesn't seem extraordinary that the bias in Canada is even more hype
for Crosby in comparison.  Not that he's not a great player - just the media
attitude, and amongst the "people" may be a bit biases.  Not a big deal.  In
the community there is definitely some attitude about a Russian player
versus a Canadian.  That's all.   And, as Mavia was indeed throwing some
little barbs - jesting or so - at Ovechkin - it seemed reasonable to reply.

They're both great talents, and seemingly great for their teams, good
examples of hard-working young men who haven't gotten into trouble with bad
habits, are responsible, etc.  It'll be great to see them both play for
years to come.  It's phenomenal to have 2 talents like that come in the same
year.  The Pens are gifted to have followed with adding a similar talent in
Malkin, and Staal.  I don't think that praising one of these young men has
to be done at the expense of denigrating another.

ellice