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Posted by on January 21, 2009, 8:19 am
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> On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:30:03 -0800 (PST), epc...@mindspring.com
> opined:
> >> Elizabeth,
> >> don't you think that China is aiming to be the most powerful, or maybe
> >> controlling, power?
> >Sure, I think they're aiming at it. =A0I just don't think that they're
> >anywhere near achieving it.
> >I explicitly excluded it because it's not a country, but don't
> >underestimate the power of the European Union both in terms of
> >competition with the US and of ability to help keep China at bay.
> >Elizabeth
> I see problems arising in the EU, big ones.
Sure, but that doesn't mean it's not powerful, just as problems in the
US don't mean we're not powerful. I see problems in both and
solutions in both.
Elizabeth
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Posted by lucretia borgia on January 21, 2009, 8:24 am
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:19:09 -0800 (PST), epc123@mindspring.com
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>> I see problems arising in the EU, big ones.
>Sure, but that doesn't mean it's not powerful, just as problems in the
>US don't mean we're not powerful. I see problems in both and
>solutions in both.
>Elizabeth
Well we shall see, I believe it all hinges on Obama because currently
four years is a long time. I hear he has put a hold on Guantanamo,
that's a good start.
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Posted by lucretia borgia on January 21, 2009, 6:48 am
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:01:02 -0800 (PST), epc123@mindspring.com
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>In terms of military power, the US spends 4.03 percent of its GDP on
>the military while China spends 4.30% of a much smaller GDP and
>actually has more standing obligations (Tibet, the borders with
>India, Kazakstan, Mongolia). And there's not a country in the world
>with the projection power of the US (the ability to transport
>troops). In fact, the EU is not completely capable of projection
>without relying on US hardware and intelligence.
>Elizabeth
>(all numbers from CIA World Factbook, 2007 estimates)
That CIA World Factbook, CIA ?
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Posted by on January 21, 2009, 8:18 am
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> That CIA World Factbook, CIA ?
Huh?
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Posted by lucretia borgia on January 21, 2009, 8:22 am
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:18:04 -0800 (PST), epc123@mindspring.com
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>wrote:
>> That CIA World Factbook, CIA ?
>Huh?
What sort of CIA ? Spies ?
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> opined:
> >> Elizabeth,
> >> don't you think that China is aiming to be the most powerful, or maybe
> >> controlling, power?
> >Sure, I think they're aiming at it. =A0I just don't think that they're
> >anywhere near achieving it.
> >I explicitly excluded it because it's not a country, but don't
> >underestimate the power of the European Union both in terms of
> >competition with the US and of ability to help keep China at bay.
> >Elizabeth
> I see problems arising in the EU, big ones.