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many colors in project Pat Minors 09-20-2006
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Posted by Pat Minors on September 20, 2006, 12:31 pm
I am new to needlepoint so naturally I begin with a difficult project, which
is to cover six dining room chairs. Plus, I rejected the many standard
designs and developed my own. It is an art deco styled spray of flowers. I
used colors pencils to color my line drawing. Then I scanned the result
into a cross stitch pattern maker program. It is an old program but produces
a very nice chart and DMC colors.

My problem is in trying to match so many colors in my design to the yarn I
have collected for this project.

I have three questions.
1. I discovered I can send an 8.5 X 11 inch piece of canvas through my
printer. Butr that size hardly covers the chair seat. Has anyone done the
following; put the smaller printed canvas on top of the larger canvas that
fits the chair and stitched through two layers of the canvas?

2. I have collected many colors and types of wool yarn from different
makers. Is it kosher to mix the different brands and yarn types (single ply,
multi-ply, etc.) to get the range of colors I want?

3. Is this ever done- use a length of wool yarn paired with a particular
shade of cotton floss (I use DMC) and twisted together to obtain a
particular color effect?

These are going to be chair seats and not wall hangings. I don't expect
anyone to be whipping out a magnifying glass and light source to make close
inpections.

Your help and guidance will be treasured.
Fernie



Posted by ellice on September 20, 2006, 1:01 pm

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Have you considered doing color phot enlargments of the design - on paper -
to get the right size, and then trace onto the actual chair canvas?
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You could certainly mix yarns - but generally it's a good idea to ply the
yarn and then work with a group of the different colors put together. As in
take a ply of 1 with 2 plies of another color to get a shading effect. It's
actually a common technique to produce shading, graduating color. Example -
say you have a 3 ply of dark red that you wish to shade towards a more
orange color. First stitch with the 3 ply of red. Then switch after a bit
to 2 plies red twisted with 1 ply of orange, then again to 1 ply red, 2
plies orange, and then to the 3 plies of orange. Brands mixed is fine. Be
careful with mixing types (wool vs cotton vs wool-silk) because they will
wear differently.
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Sometimes. But, more common with NP is to use perle cotton as opposed to
floss. Even in high count canvas you end up using a lot of floss. For
something like chair covers I would steer away from cotton floss - as it
will not wear well with the use that chair seats get. The wool will wear
very well, and I don't think that you'll be happy with the stitching by
combining wool and cotton together in the same length. You could mix in
some cotton somewhere in the design. There are also rayon blends that are
used a lot in NP (Burmalana & Needle Necessities make some ).
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No, but you don't want them to wear out real quickly, either. You might
want to check out the ANG website - there is a lot of information on NP
stitching, stitches, and the like available. It may take some time to
navigate around - but there is very good info.
http://www.needlepoint.org/index.php

Good luck with your project,
ellice
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Posted by bungadora on September 20, 2006, 9:46 pm

Pat Minors wrote:
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Goodness, you're a brave one.

Butr that size hardly covers the chair seat. Has anyone done the
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I'm assuming you would have complete coverage of the larger pieces of
canvas with the smaller pieces. You might run into difficulty in places
where two smaller pieces of canvas met. You could finish the edges so
they did not poke out. Overlaps of two pieces of canvas are sometimes
done but usually when a very large piece is being worked, such as a
rug, where more than one piece of canvas must be used to complete the
design and two layers are put together to be stitched as one. In such
cases, the overlap would ideally occur in an area where the double
layer of canvas (and consequent variation in height) would be less
conspicuous, such as a border.

You would have to stay stitch the two pieces together, of course.

You might also have trouble upholstering because the fabric was too
bulky.

I'd just treat the chart you've made like a graph and stitch it to the
chart using it as a reference like a cross stitch chart. You could grid
the canvas with a permanent marker (very lightly) or thread.

I agree with ellice that cotton probably wouldn't be suitable for
something like a chair seat.
Dora


Posted by Tara D on September 20, 2006, 11:18 pm

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I'd be more worried it isn't colourfast (assuming ink jet printer).

Tara

Posted by anne on September 21, 2006, 11:52 am
Pat Minors said
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Jim (aka James) has converted several digital images into xs patterns. Next
time I ask him to do that, I'll ask him to use less than the 90 colors he's
used in the past. That number of colors is much more than I need for the type
of embroidery I like to do.

This is my way of saying that unless you need fine details and shading, you
could eliminate many shades of the same color.
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another Anne, add ingers to frugalf to reply

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