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Posted by SewVeryCreative on November 6, 2007, 7:11 pm
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> On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:01:50 -0600, "SewVeryCreative"
> <ConnieATsewverycreativeDOTcom> wrote:
> >> tis similar to another block i cant now recall the name
> >> of...i'm sure someone else will pop in here soon and tell us
> >> both, lol.
> >Barbara Brackman has it as "Mother's Dream" but the MD I remember is much
> >different ... And I did change it around a bit further (a li'l bit of
> >boredom can be a dangerous thing).
> Ooo! I got that book for my birthday this year!
Which one?! I don't have this particular book - I copied it from a display a
guild member made for her "book report" of BB's "Facts & Fabrications"
Unravelling the History of Quilts & Slavery" ... is that the one you've
got??
I've been thinkin' of gettin' it ... it sounds interestin' though I'm
reluctant to toss away years of assumptions and what I was taught in school.
I'm a pack rat with lots of things, and knowledge (right or wrong) tends to
be something I like keepin'!
What do YOU think? Do you think it was all made up??
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> ??? Turkey in the Straw? Well sort of, half ways....
> I looked and thought and it occurs to me that it looks almost like
> Goose in the Well, which is sort of the goose in the pond meets the
> turkey in the straw and they get along famously well. I tried to find
> a picture of the thing and failed miserably.
> Take your block, and turn the geese round to go the other way then put
> a squared off diamond in the middle and you have it.
Now, is that from the "Fact & Fabrications" book? I'm really lookin' for a
great book with a LOT of pieced blocks (not really concerned about
instructions - its the block themselves that I'm most interested in).
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> I have no clue as to the provenance of this block.
> >But when it comes to pieced (unless it's paper pieced, I think) I don't
> >think there's really any "new" blocks - I think they're old blocks
tweaked
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> >just a wee bit.
> Some of the non-repeating blocks, mathematical blocks, realistic
> blocks and blocks rooted in other cultures are new I think.
> I made a pieced Totoro (from the Hayao Miyazaki film) based on
> somebody else's origami Totoro, I have also made chinese lucky bat
> blocks based on origami patterns. Those surely are not trad blocks.
> Don't forget, foundation piecing is so _not_ a new thing. People just
> came around to remembering that it was a useful thing indeed for
> making blocks with lots of fussy little pieces or wierd angles. Praise
> Carol Doak, praise her with great praise.
Oh, I do, I do. I'm not big into the cutesy PP blocks - but when it comes
to, say, New York Beauty or Pickle Dish, I LOVE PPing!! And CD is the one
that made it all famous (and therefore fairly common in the mags) so we can
ALL enjoy it!
I would LOVE to see your Totoro and Lucky Bat ... do you have any pics?? :)
What made you decide to make them? What was your inspiration?
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> On the other hand, yeah, when it comes to repeating blocks made of
> nothing but "common" angles or simple curves, there is probably not a
> lot left undiscovered.
I don't think there are any that are really new, per se. Even the "new" ones
seem to be either rooted in another art form/medium or re-toolin's of old
blocks. But then, I think I'm jaded in that I've been doin' graphic art for
nearly 20 years (damn, admittin' that makes me feel ancient) and I've seen
that there are no "new ideas" - it's all a rehash of the past ('ceptin'
technology used to create it/communicate it). As my Daddy used to say,
there's only so many ways to draw a square!
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> NightMist
> --
> The third-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the
> majority. The second-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with
> the minority. The first-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking.
> - AA Milne
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Posted by NightMist on November 8, 2007, 6:09 pm
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 18:11:55 -0600, "SewVeryCreative"
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<ConnieATsewverycreativeDOTcom> wrote:
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>Which one?! I don't have this particular book - I copied it from a display a
>guild member made for her "book report" of BB's "Facts & Fabrications"
>Unravelling the History of Quilts & Slavery" ... is that the one you've
>got??
Nope.
Encyclopedia of Pieced Quilt Patterns
If you are keen on looking at a lot of blocks, that is definitly one
to check out. I got both that one and the Carrie Hall book from the
same person. Carrie Hall has about 800 blocks, color photos, and some
templates. Encyclopedia is all line drawings, and has about 4000
patterns, no templates or instructions, just listing and some
catagorization, decent index too.
Encyclopedia: http://tinyurl.com/27aomo
Carrie Hall: http://tinyurl.com/yu3ccv
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>I've been thinkin' of gettin' it ... it sounds interestin' though I'm
>reluctant to toss away years of assumptions and what I was taught in school.
>I'm a pack rat with lots of things, and knowledge (right or wrong) tends to
>be something I like keepin'!
>What do YOU think? Do you think it was all made up??
The only book I have thus far seen on the subject was all wistful
thinking and truly abominable research. No better than most of Silver
Ravenwolf's historical bits (pagan-wicca, again lots of wistful
thinking and darn little solid research). Wanting something to be or
have been does not make it true. Lots of things you learned in school
are not really true. Pocahantas did not love John Smith or John
Rolfe, General Custer was an idiot not a hero, the fall of Richmond
was not a suprise or shock to any but the most ardent of true
believers in the Confederacy, and Iron Eyes Cody (the indian in the
canoe in the pollution commercials back in the 70's) is of italian
stock not Native American.
The Monkees mostly didn't play their own instruments either. (G)
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>> ??? Turkey in the Straw? Well sort of, half ways....
>> I looked and thought and it occurs to me that it looks almost like
>> Goose in the Well, which is sort of the goose in the pond meets the
>> turkey in the straw and they get along famously well. I tried to find
>> a picture of the thing and failed miserably.
>> Take your block, and turn the geese round to go the other way then put
>> a squared off diamond in the middle and you have it.
>Now, is that from the "Fact & Fabrications" book?
Nope.
I have had no luck finding this block anywhere under that name.
I am starting to think I am going to have to go rummage grandma's
linen closet to make sure I'm not hallucinating it.
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>I would LOVE to see your Totoro and Lucky Bat ... do you have any pics?? :)
I have got to solve my picture problem. I have gone through about 3
sites now that just shut me down with no warning, and only one of them
told me that it was because I was a perv. Apparently posting links to
pictures in groups dealing with human sexuality is something the pic
places have hysterics about, even if it is just a picture of a cat. It
is starting to look like I am going to have to shell out cash for a
webserver that doesn't care what or where else you post, and make a
website or something.
I think a particular toll I annoyed in another group has been tagging
me around. I surely can't imagine that the pic sites discovered my
posts without help.
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>What made you decide to make them? What was your inspiration?
With Totoro I just stumbled across the origami diagram and noted its
remarkable similarity to a block diagram. Since the movie is total kid
crack, I worked it out for use in kiddie quilts.
The bats I did on purpose.
For one, all goth quilters should have a supply of bat blocks! lol!
The whole family is keen on bats.
Also I was doing kiripet's kimono quilt. I wanted more than just
kimono blocks in it, and I wanted to maintain a rather oriental
flavor. I tried to find some good looking herons, but wasn't pleased
with any of them, including my own efforts at designing some. So I
went back to origami, and worked out 2 different lucky bats, another
paper crane to go with the one I already had, and a lotus blossom. I
felt the angular style of the origami went well with the kimono
blocks. I combined it all and threw in milady's fan for good measure.
I was pleased with it.
The kimonos themselves are done in the 2001 and 2004 fabrics as seen
here :http://www.hoffmanchallenge.com/pastChallenges.html
Everything else was done in a combination of a couple of fabrics from
the Hoffman kimono line, my own dying efforts, and everything backed
with an RJR woodgrain. I thought it came out well and kiri was
pleased with it.
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>I don't think there are any that are really new, per se. Even the "new" ones
>seem to be either rooted in another art form/medium or re-toolin's of old
>blocks. But then, I think I'm jaded in that I've been doin' graphic art for
>nearly 20 years (damn, admittin' that makes me feel ancient) and I've seen
>that there are no "new ideas" - it's all a rehash of the past ('ceptin'
>technology used to create it/communicate it). As my Daddy used to say,
>there's only so many ways to draw a square!
Oh I have been in _that_ rut before!
Sure there is nothing new under the sun, but there are always new ways
to use old things.
For example look at how perspective has come into quilting in the last
decade or two. A good number of quilters have always used it to an
extent in pictorial quilts, but even there the two dimensions in two
dimensions such as the country patterns tended to predominate, and a
lot of the perspective used was in the art decco style. Oh sure you
have always had the optical illusion patterns such as tumbling blocks
or attic windows, but nowdays you are seeing more and more multipoint
perspective used over the entire quilt top. I think it was either
Leslie or Polly (or maybe both) who showed off a quilt wherein they
had done that with flying geese on a curve.
More bits of traditional art and graphic design have beeen working
their way into quilting (and needlework in general, chiaroscuro cross
stitch for example) where they are often percieved as new because they
have been so uncommon in the media previously.
I had a chat in the local coffee house (where else? she said with an
eye roll) a month or two ago wherein we somehow ended up talking about
the inflence of analytical cubism and fauvism on quilting. The
similarities you see in some modern quilts is quite clear, however I
held that in at least fifty percent of the work it is parallel
development with a dash of influence instead of intentional. They
thought me mad! Bwahahahaha!
NightMist
who is of course, quite mad
--
The third-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the
majority. The second-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with
the minority. The first-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking.
- AA Milne
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Posted by Debra on November 7, 2007, 10:19 am
On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:15:44 GMT, nightmiste@gmail.com (NightMist)
wrote:
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>I made a pieced Totoro (from the Hayao Miyazaki film) based on
>somebody else's origami Totoro, I have also made chinese lucky bat
>blocks based on origami patterns.
You got a picture of that Totoro block somewheres? I'd love to see
it.
Debra in VA
See my quilts at
http://community.webshots.com/user/debplayshere
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Posted by Mary in Rock Island IL on November 5, 2007, 10:03 pm
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"SewVeryCreative" <ConnieATsewverycreativeDOTcom> wrote:
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>Well, here I am, bein' stupid again ... Totally forgot to put in the link!!
>http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2363255960101669894FrYTza
>Thanks again!! :)
>Hugs!!
>Connie :)
I looked in Block Base and didn't see that exact block. There is a
Road to California which is similar (also called Stepping Stones and
Crossroads). Combine that block with the one known as An Effective
Square, Baltimore Belle, Flying Geese, Odd Fellows, Odd Fellows Cross,
Odd Fellows Patch or Odd Fellow's Patch and it would almost be your
block.
Mary
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Posted by SewVeryCreative on November 5, 2007, 10:08 pm
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> "SewVeryCreative" <ConnieATsewverycreativeDOTcom> wrote:
> >Well, here I am, bein' stupid again ... Totally forgot to put in the
link!!
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> >http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2363255960101669894FrYTza
> >Thanks again!! :)
> >Hugs!!
> >Connie :)
> I looked in Block Base and didn't see that exact block. There is a
> Road to California which is similar (also called Stepping Stones and
> Crossroads). Combine that block with the one known as An Effective
> Square, Baltimore Belle, Flying Geese, Odd Fellows, Odd Fellows Cross,
> Odd Fellows Patch or Odd Fellow's Patch and it would almost be your
> block.
> Mary
Well, I can't see any of those (I don't have BB ... yet), so I guess I'm
goin' to have to get off my keister and get BB!! EQ doesn't have anything
close in the libraries ...
Thank you, Mary ... not only for lookin' for me and doin' the legwork, but
also convincin' me to get BB!! :)
Hugs!!
Connie :)
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> <ConnieATsewverycreativeDOTcom> wrote:
> >> tis similar to another block i cant now recall the name
> >> of...i'm sure someone else will pop in here soon and tell us
> >> both, lol.
> >Barbara Brackman has it as "Mother's Dream" but the MD I remember is much
> >different ... And I did change it around a bit further (a li'l bit of
> >boredom can be a dangerous thing).
> Ooo! I got that book for my birthday this year!