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Posted by TwinMom on May 3, 2007, 9:37 pm
I need your input here. I've been thinking of starting a pattern production
side line to augment the family income (which is pretty low as a SAHM). I
used to have a quite successful graphic design business (pre-kids) so I have
all the software tools, production experience, etc. My experiences as a
quilt teacher have shown me a lot about what different levels of students
can work with. I've been looking at some of the "home made" type patterns
lately and, with no insult intended, I could do a much better job of
production, proofing, layout, etc. (Don't worry, I can't design worth beans!
LOL) I am thinking of running a little ad in our guild newsletter and maybe
some cards in a few local quilt shops. Basically, I could take anyones idea
(even hand drawn) and turn it into a professional looking pattern. So, here
are my questions for you designers out there...
1. How do you find resources to produce your patterns for sale?
2. Do you produce your own work? If so, how?
2. Would you find value in a better quality finished product?
3. Would you be insulted or bothered if someone contacted you to "fix" your
pattern?
4. Would it be a value to turn over a basic sketch and get back a pattern
fully enveloped for sale?
You see where I'm going here. It seems like lots of the smaller designers
are working with hand drawn sketches and color photocopied covers. One
pattern I saw yesterday was really cute, design wise, but the provided
pattern was missing so many key elements that the customer had no clue how
to put the thing together. Never mind the two large mistakes in the provided
templates. I could potentially provide the step-by-step, cutting
suggestions, etc. Do you think it would be viable? Any ideas or suggestions?
Yeah, I know it won't turn me into a hundred-aire, but it would be
something.
TIA, Lorraine in WA
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Posted by Taria on May 3, 2007, 10:11 pm
I bought a pattern from Keepsake a couple of months ago. It cost $8 +
shipping and boy was it a disappointment. The instructions are pretty
worthless. I felt really ripped off. I just set it aside and lost
interest. I think you have a great idea here Lorraine. I don't know how
that kind of thing works but I bet we could all point you to at least
one pattern/company that we have had this same problem with. Putting a
professional look to otherwise good designs sounds like a winner to me.
Taria
TwinMom wrote:
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> I need your input here. I've been thinking of starting a pattern production
> side line to augment the family income (which is pretty low as a SAHM). I
> used to have a quite successful graphic design business (pre-kids) so I have
> all the software tools, production experience, etc. My experiences as a
> quilt teacher have shown me a lot about what different levels of students
> can work with. I've been looking at some of the "home made" type patterns
> lately and, with no insult intended, I could do a much better job of
> production, proofing, layout, etc. (Don't worry, I can't design worth beans!
> LOL) I am thinking of running a little ad in our guild newsletter and maybe
> some cards in a few local quilt shops. Basically, I could take anyones idea
> (even hand drawn) and turn it into a professional looking pattern. So, here
> are my questions for you designers out there...
>
> 1. How do you find resources to produce your patterns for sale?
> 2. Do you produce your own work? If so, how?
> 2. Would you find value in a better quality finished product?
> 3. Would you be insulted or bothered if someone contacted you to "fix" your
> pattern?
> 4. Would it be a value to turn over a basic sketch and get back a pattern
> fully enveloped for sale?
>
> You see where I'm going here. It seems like lots of the smaller designers
> are working with hand drawn sketches and color photocopied covers. One
> pattern I saw yesterday was really cute, design wise, but the provided
> pattern was missing so many key elements that the customer had no clue how
> to put the thing together. Never mind the two large mistakes in the provided
> templates. I could potentially provide the step-by-step, cutting
> suggestions, etc. Do you think it would be viable? Any ideas or suggestions?
> Yeah, I know it won't turn me into a hundred-aire, but it would be
> something.
>
> TIA, Lorraine in WA
>
>
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Posted by Sally Swindells on May 4, 2007, 5:51 am
Taria wrote:
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> I bought a pattern from Keepsake a couple of months ago. It cost $8 +
> shipping and boy was it a disappointment. The instructions are pretty
> worthless. I felt really ripped off. I just set it aside and lost
> interest. I think you have a great idea here Lorraine. I don't know how
> that kind of thing works but I bet we could all point you to at least
> one pattern/company that we have had this same problem with. Putting a
> professional look to otherwise good designs sounds like a winner to me.
> Taria
>
> TwinMom wrote:
Yes I bought a pattern like this - a Karen Stone one, so very busy
design. All that was in it was the small colour print on the front of
the package, a larger layout drawing and the printed kite shaped pieces
for the paper piecing. No decent instructions at all, and somehow very
amateurish.
It did say that certain blocks had extra pieces in them and gave their
numbers, but neglected to say anywhere else where these numbers related too.
Fortunately I knew how to paper piece or I'd have been lost - no
instructions. I enlarged and printed out the colour picture so I could
see it properly, and numbered the line drawing picture. Then I did my
own thing with it. Half the blocks are pieced and half are from brown
toners. There are three blocks which from the picture, look as though
they are from multicoloured patterned fabric, but I'm not sure. I think
I'm using batics that go with the pieced blocks for these. However I
might piece three more,
I was going to use this for my sweatshirt jacket, but think I like it as
a quilt better, so will have to re-think the jacket!
However, I think this will be the last pattern I'll buy, so I agree with
Taria, the 'industry' does need sorting out, and there is definitely
room for your business.
--
Sally at the Seaside~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~uk
http://community.webshots.com/user/sallyswin
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Posted by Butterflywings on May 4, 2007, 11:26 am
DS bought a pattern for me of a fall tablerunner. It was all well and good
until I came to make the stems for the maple leaves. No way, no how were
they going to work as written. I had already cut everything out so I had to
fudge like crazy as there wasn't any extra fabric in the kit.
We did buy another pattern at the BIIIIGGGGG SSSHHHOOOOWWWWEEEEE but it has
a lot of good drawings in case the written instructions are hard to follow.
the LQS owner said it was a BOM class and she didn't heard any complaints on
it. It will be one of the first WUH's I will do once I'm sorted out .
Butterfly
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> Taria wrote:
>> I bought a pattern from Keepsake a couple of months ago. It cost $8 +
>> shipping and boy was it a disappointment. The instructions are pretty
>> worthless. I felt really ripped off. I just set it aside and lost
>> interest. I think you have a great idea here Lorraine. I don't know how
>> that kind of thing works but I bet we could all point you to at least
>> one pattern/company that we have had this same problem with. Putting a
>> professional look to otherwise good designs sounds like a winner to me.
>> Taria
>> TwinMom wrote:
> Yes I bought a pattern like this - a Karen Stone one, so very busy design.
> All that was in it was the small colour print on the front of the package,
> a larger layout drawing and the printed kite shaped pieces for the paper
> piecing. No decent instructions at all, and somehow very amateurish.
> It did say that certain blocks had extra pieces in them and gave their
> numbers, but neglected to say anywhere else where these numbers related
> too.
> Fortunately I knew how to paper piece or I'd have been lost - no
> instructions. I enlarged and printed out the colour picture so I could see
> it properly, and numbered the line drawing picture. Then I did my own
> thing with it. Half the blocks are pieced and half are from brown toners.
> There are three blocks which from the picture, look as though they are
> from multicoloured patterned fabric, but I'm not sure. I think I'm using
> batics that go with the pieced blocks for these. However I might piece
> three more,
> I was going to use this for my sweatshirt jacket, but think I like it as a
> quilt better, so will have to re-think the jacket!
> However, I think this will be the last pattern I'll buy, so I agree with
> Taria, the 'industry' does need sorting out, and there is definitely room
> for your business.
> --
> Sally at the Seaside~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~uk
> http://community.webshots.com/user/sallyswin
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Posted by CATS on May 3, 2007, 11:29 pm
As one who designs and writes patterns I can also recommend
EQ5. I have EQ6 but don't like it as much because it did
not produce significant imrovement in the specific areas I
wanted (drawing for applique designs) and because of the
limit on activations. However, I have heard some people
love it. Both have the advantage of allowing scanning of
current fabrics to use in designs.
Quilt Pro is also supposed to be good for producing written
instructions and I know there are some users within the ng,
but although I have QP I never really got into it in any
detail. I also used Corel Draw and a couple of other
packages for diagrams, but always did my final documents in
Word. It made life much simpler back then. Now I would be
using pdf I think.
Because I have always done my own designing and instructions
for classes (but not published for retail sale) I probably
would not use the service. But I would recommend it to a
lot of pattern designers who try to turn their very clever
ideas into published patterns and don't understand that
publishing/writing is a completely different set of skills.
It is a little like people who assume that because they can
DO a thing well, they can TEACH it. Teaching is a separate
skill too. I have been asked by a couple of local groups to
re-write their handwritten instructions into more structured
handouts for weekend retreats or classes.
Following on - have you considered doing instructions and
class notes to a professional standard for teachers? Some
(read MOST) of the handouts that I have received in local
class situations (when there have been any written notes at
all!) have been pretty abysmal. I'm not sure how much of a
money maker this would be, but I suspect the margin on
self-published patterns is pretty low. But offering a
service to quilt shops and guilds might bring in more steady
work, and once you had the basics down it could be a quick
turnaround service.
Offering a professional standard design/pattern for
inclusion in newsletters each month to a number of
guilds/groups for a small cost each would probably bring in
a better return than waiting for someone to bring you one
pattern and pay a minimal one-off fee for your work. And
you could still offer the individual service as well.
--
Cheryl & the Cats in OZ
o o o o o o
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Boofhead Donut Rasputin
http://community.webshots.com/user/witchofthewest catsatararatATyahooDOTcomDOTau
: Using a quilting program like EQ5 sould solve all those
pattern creating
: problems. You can design a pattern and print out the
pattern and
: instructions, along with the yardage required. Soooooo
easy if you learn the
: program.
:
: --
: Boca Jan
: Florida - Land of the Hurricanes
: http://community.webshots.com/user/BocaJan :
:
:
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: >I need your input here. I've been thinking of starting a
pattern production
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: >side line to augment the family income (which is pretty
low as a SAHM). I
show/hide quoted text
: >used to have a quite successful graphic design business
(pre-kids) so I
show/hide quoted text
: >have all the software tools, production experience, etc.
My experiences as
show/hide quoted text
: >a quilt teacher have shown me a lot about what different
levels of students
show/hide quoted text
: >can work with. I've been looking at some of the "home
made" type patterns
show/hide quoted text
: >lately and, with no insult intended, I could do a much
better job of
show/hide quoted text
: >production, proofing, layout, etc. (Don't worry, I can't
design worth
show/hide quoted text
: >beans! LOL) I am thinking of running a little ad in our
guild newsletter
show/hide quoted text
: >and maybe some cards in a few local quilt shops.
Basically, I could take
show/hide quoted text
: >anyones idea (even hand drawn) and turn it into a
professional looking
show/hide quoted text
: >pattern. So, here are my questions for you designers out
there...
show/hide quoted text
: >
: > 1. How do you find resources to produce your patterns
for sale?
show/hide quoted text
: > 2. Do you produce your own work? If so, how?
: > 2. Would you find value in a better quality finished
product?
show/hide quoted text
: > 3. Would you be insulted or bothered if someone
contacted you to "fix"
show/hide quoted text
: > your pattern?
: > 4. Would it be a value to turn over a basic sketch and
get back a pattern
show/hide quoted text
: > fully enveloped for sale?
: >
: > You see where I'm going here. It seems like lots of the
smaller designers
show/hide quoted text
: > are working with hand drawn sketches and color
photocopied covers. One
show/hide quoted text
: > pattern I saw yesterday was really cute, design wise,
but the provided
show/hide quoted text
: > pattern was missing so many key elements that the
customer had no clue how
show/hide quoted text
: > to put the thing together. Never mind the two large
mistakes in the
show/hide quoted text
: > provided templates. I could potentially provide the
step-by-step, cutting
show/hide quoted text
: > suggestions, etc. Do you think it would be viable? Any
ideas or
show/hide quoted text
: > suggestions? Yeah, I know it won't turn me into a
hundred-aire, but it
show/hide quoted text
: > would be something.
: >
: > TIA, Lorraine in WA
: >
: >
:
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> side line to augment the family income (which is pretty low as a SAHM). I
> used to have a quite successful graphic design business (pre-kids) so I have
> all the software tools, production experience, etc. My experiences as a
> quilt teacher have shown me a lot about what different levels of students
> can work with. I've been looking at some of the "home made" type patterns
> lately and, with no insult intended, I could do a much better job of
> production, proofing, layout, etc. (Don't worry, I can't design worth beans!
> LOL) I am thinking of running a little ad in our guild newsletter and maybe
> some cards in a few local quilt shops. Basically, I could take anyones idea
> (even hand drawn) and turn it into a professional looking pattern. So, here
> are my questions for you designers out there...
>
> 1. How do you find resources to produce your patterns for sale?
> 2. Do you produce your own work? If so, how?
> 2. Would you find value in a better quality finished product?
> 3. Would you be insulted or bothered if someone contacted you to "fix" your
> pattern?
> 4. Would it be a value to turn over a basic sketch and get back a pattern
> fully enveloped for sale?
>
> You see where I'm going here. It seems like lots of the smaller designers
> are working with hand drawn sketches and color photocopied covers. One
> pattern I saw yesterday was really cute, design wise, but the provided
> pattern was missing so many key elements that the customer had no clue how
> to put the thing together. Never mind the two large mistakes in the provided
> templates. I could potentially provide the step-by-step, cutting
> suggestions, etc. Do you think it would be viable? Any ideas or suggestions?
> Yeah, I know it won't turn me into a hundred-aire, but it would be
> something.
>
> TIA, Lorraine in WA
>
>