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Posted by Roberta on October 13, 2009, 1:03 pm
My firm policy is not to buy any cereal with any sort of cartoon
figure on the box. Saves me endless trouble!
Roberta in D
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:07:17 -0500, "Polly Esther"
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>My challenge lately has been plain old Rice Krispies. They seem to change
>the size of the box at least twice a day. Our cabinet shelves are
>adjustable so when they made them taller, I adjusted. The next week, I just
>moved cereal storing over to the pantry. Last Tuesday, WalMart had a
>display of Rice Krispie boxes that were about the size of our washing
>machine. DH muttered "back porch for that one?" and I just wondered who
>could possibly manage that sort of 'saving'.
> Now, if someone could please tell me how to get the @#$! plastic
>wrapping open without going out to the tool shed for some serious help.
>Polly
>wrote:
>> Of course you do. It was a bad reference from Seinfeld, but it
>> works...
>> Anyhoo, I bought some black quilting cotton last week(?) for my PCQ
>> foundation [reminder: utility quilt] that was, according to the bolt,
>> 44"/45". Unfortunately I took the bolt at its word. I washed the
>> fabric in cold water as I'm supposed to, to pre-shrink it. So I
>> ironed it last night, layed it out to cut the foundation (bought
>> enough for three tries just in case...) and find it's now only 42"
>> wide. Now I/we expected shrinkage, but is 3" reasonable or do you
>> think this stuff was not 44"/45" as represented? It's not going to
>> kill anything - so I start with a 42" square foundation instead of 44"/
>> 45" - big fat hairy deal... I'm just curious if quilting cotton is
>> usually prone to shrink that much...
>> Next step is to hem the two rough edges to prevent fraying while I'm
>> working on things...
>> Doc
>I'd bet your fabric wasn't 44/45" to begin with. This has been a real
>source of irritation for me lately, since I got hooked making baby
>quilts.
>I'd made a quilt so that regular 44/45" fabric would work for the
>backing,
>not having to piece it.
>Lo and behold. I had the LQS lady measure and my fabric of choice
>was only 42" *on the bolt*. Since then I always check.
>This trend also really screws up patterns using fat quarters when they
>assume a fat quarter will be 22 inches, and it's not!
>I don't know the reason for this trend. I imagine it's the same reason
>that
>cans of vegetables, candy bars, etc.etc. have shrunk. Instead of
>raising
>the price on that stuff, they shrink it and think we don't notice???
>Sherry
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Posted by Dr. Zachary Smith on October 13, 2009, 11:24 am
Hi Sherry,
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> I'd bet your fabric wasn't 44/45" to begin with.
That's my suspicion despite the explicit labeling, and IMO, that's
just not right.
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> This trend also really screws up patterns using fat quarters when they
> assume a fat quarter will be 22 inches, and it's not!
That one I knew about. I'm learning (often the hard way) but it's far
more frustrating than other industies I'm familiar with. I don't
think I'm alone in suspecting some form of sexism/chauvinism at work
here. IMO&E men wouldn't tolerate this kind of shenanigans (though
we've fallen for some doozies...)
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> I don't know the reason for this trend. I imagine it's the same reason
> that
> cans of vegetables, candy bars, etc.etc. have shrunk. Instead of
> raising
> the price on that stuff, they shrink it and think we don't notice???
"Downsizing". I couldn't agree more. Hate it, Hate it, HATE IT!!!
Like you, I would rather pay more and get what I used to get.
Doc
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Posted by Maureen Wozniak on October 13, 2009, 8:13 pm
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:18:58 -0500, Dr. Zachary Smith wrote
(in article
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> Of course you do. It was a bad reference from Seinfeld, but it
> works...
> Anyhoo, I bought some black quilting cotton last week(?) for my PCQ
> foundation [reminder: utility quilt] that was, according to the bolt,
> 44"/45". Unfortunately I took the bolt at its word. I washed the
> fabric in cold water as I'm supposed to, to pre-shrink it. So I
> ironed it last night, layed it out to cut the foundation (bought
> enough for three tries just in case...) and find it's now only 42"
> wide. Now I/we expected shrinkage, but is 3" reasonable or do you
> think this stuff was not 44"/45" as represented? It's not going to
> kill anything - so I start with a 42" square foundation instead of 44"/
> 45" - big fat hairy deal... I'm just curious if quilting cotton is
> usually prone to shrink that much...
>
> Next step is to hem the two rough edges to prevent fraying while I'm
> working on things...
>
> Doc
I don't know if it would be expected, but a) some fabrics are notorious for
shrinking a lot (flannel comes to mind) and b) the bolt end might have lied.
Any more, I assume when figuring yardage that quilting cotton is 42" wide,
not 45" no matter what the bold says.
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Posted by NightMist on October 13, 2009, 10:36 pm
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:18:58 -0700 (PDT), "Dr. Zachary Smith"
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>Of course you do. It was a bad reference from Seinfeld, but it
>works...
>Anyhoo, I bought some black quilting cotton last week(?) for my PCQ
>foundation [reminder: utility quilt] that was, according to the bolt,
>44"/45". Unfortunately I took the bolt at its word. I washed the
>fabric in cold water as I'm supposed to, to pre-shrink it. So I
>ironed it last night, layed it out to cut the foundation (bought
>enough for three tries just in case...) and find it's now only 42"
>wide. Now I/we expected shrinkage, but is 3" reasonable or do you
>think this stuff was not 44"/45" as represented? It's not going to
>kill anything - so I start with a 42" square foundation instead of 44"/
>45" - big fat hairy deal... I'm just curious if quilting cotton is
>usually prone to shrink that much...
>Next step is to hem the two rough edges to prevent fraying while I'm
>working on things...
Shrink is a very varied thing.
It can depend on a lot of different things.
When figuring out how much fabric I will need I just assume 10% shrink
and then add 5-10 percent to the total amount I figure I need.
Yes, quilt cottons will shrink more than most other cottons. A 60
threads per inch fabric will shrink more than a 120 threads per inch
fabric, and most cottons prefered for quilting fall into the 60 thread
range. Higher thread counts shrink less than the same thread in lower
counts.
If your fabric was 44 inches wide, you only lost about 2 inches to
shrink. Not bad, but I would go back and engage in some serious
laundry abuse to make sure you got it all. I have gotten up to four
plus inches of shrink across the width on cottons I prewash for
batiking. Those I all but boil in the prewash, because hey, I will
boil them in process.
NightMist
--
Legolas is my house elf
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Posted by Tia Mary on October 14, 2009, 1:34 am
Dr. Zachary Smith wrote:
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> Of course you do. It was a bad reference from Seinfeld, but it
> works...
> Anyhoo, I bought some black quilting cotton last week(?) for my PCQ
> foundation [reminder: utility quilt] that was, according to the bolt,
> 44"/45". Unfortunately I took the bolt at its word. I washed the
> fabric in cold water as I'm supposed to, to pre-shrink it....(snip)
> and find it's now only 42"
> wide. Now I/we expected shrinkage, but is 3" reasonable or do you
> think this stuff was not 44"/45" as represented? ...<snip>...
> Doc
First off, if you washed 100% cotton in COLD water, it shouldn't have
shrunk. Hot water wash, even a warm water wash could result in
shrinkage but not cold water. IMHO 3" shrinkage on 45" wide fabric
would be a bit much for good quality cotton washed in hot water. I read
Nightmists post -- she expects 10% shrinkage) and have never had the
sort of shrinkage she expects to get. Not sure why that is but as she
says, shrinkage is a varied result thing.
I pre-shrink all my fabrics (good quality quilting cotton and the el
cheapo stuff from Wally World) and the only time I have had that sort of
shrinkage was with stuff that was so obviously cheap (poor quality dye,
loosely woven, etc.) that I fully expected it. As for 44"/45" fabric
being smaller, I've gotten burned in the past when figuring out how much
of a certain size block I can get out of the WOF. Now I always use 40"
as a standard and am STILL caught short even when I measure the WOF
first! I will toss my hat in the "you got miss marked fabric" ring.
As you have now learned, they lied and it's not the first time either.
As for Polly's theory about clothing shrinking when it hangs in the
closet for too long -- I'm afraid to tell you all but she's dead wrong.
It's not hanging around that does it. Your clothing gets shrunk when
you are off on holiday and have left your "babies" at home -- kitties or
doggies or birds, etc. They sneak into the closet, take out the
clothing and then wash it all in HOT water and load it into the dryer
for way tooooo long at too high a heat and THAT is how your clothing
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shrinks! That's my story and I'm sticking to it!!!!! CiaoMeow >^;;^<
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PAX, Tia Mary >^;;^< (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about
their whiskers!
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>the size of the box at least twice a day. Our cabinet shelves are
>adjustable so when they made them taller, I adjusted. The next week, I just
>moved cereal storing over to the pantry. Last Tuesday, WalMart had a
>display of Rice Krispie boxes that were about the size of our washing
>machine. DH muttered "back porch for that one?" and I just wondered who
>could possibly manage that sort of 'saving'.
> Now, if someone could please tell me how to get the @#$! plastic
>wrapping open without going out to the tool shed for some serious help.
>Polly
>wrote:
>> Of course you do. It was a bad reference from Seinfeld, but it
>> works...
>> Anyhoo, I bought some black quilting cotton last week(?) for my PCQ
>> foundation [reminder: utility quilt] that was, according to the bolt,
>> 44"/45". Unfortunately I took the bolt at its word. I washed the
>> fabric in cold water as I'm supposed to, to pre-shrink it. So I
>> ironed it last night, layed it out to cut the foundation (bought
>> enough for three tries just in case...) and find it's now only 42"
>> wide. Now I/we expected shrinkage, but is 3" reasonable or do you
>> think this stuff was not 44"/45" as represented? It's not going to
>> kill anything - so I start with a 42" square foundation instead of 44"/
>> 45" - big fat hairy deal... I'm just curious if quilting cotton is
>> usually prone to shrink that much...
>> Next step is to hem the two rough edges to prevent fraying while I'm
>> working on things...
>> Doc
>I'd bet your fabric wasn't 44/45" to begin with. This has been a real
>source of irritation for me lately, since I got hooked making baby
>quilts.
>I'd made a quilt so that regular 44/45" fabric would work for the
>backing,
>not having to piece it.
>Lo and behold. I had the LQS lady measure and my fabric of choice
>was only 42" *on the bolt*. Since then I always check.
>This trend also really screws up patterns using fat quarters when they
>assume a fat quarter will be 22 inches, and it's not!
>I don't know the reason for this trend. I imagine it's the same reason
>that
>cans of vegetables, candy bars, etc.etc. have shrunk. Instead of
>raising
>the price on that stuff, they shrink it and think we don't notice???
>Sherry