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Posted by John on March 31, 2009, 7:08 pm
On Mar 31, 4:45=A0pm, Dr.Sm...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
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> > With the conversion of the electric Bernina 1008 to treadle, the
> > treadle only provides the power for moving the needle up and down. The
> > number of stitches, of whatever length, is 3 per full cycle of the
> > treadle, on my machine. Not sure if it is the same on the older
> > Singers and such. The stitch length is governed by the setting on the
> > machine, just as if it was electrified. It can coast to a stop but a
> > quick hand on the hand wheel will stop it in it's tracks. After a bit
> > of use, you develop a feel for the treadle movement and can control
> > most of the sewing with the treadle alone. It is the same on the old
> > Singers and like machines. The difference with my machine and the old
> > Singers, is that I retain all the stitch selections of the electric
> > version of the machine, and I have a free arm.
> Then it appears that you're still plugged in for everything but the
> needle going up & down, or am I misreading that? =A0Which then begs the
> question, what possessed you to make the conversion? =A0Some kind of
> breakdown? =A0Or did you previously have this preference for treadling
> (not that there's anything WRONG with that... =A0I still prefer to draft
> with pencils on vellum on a board rather than a CAD system - it's
> slower, but I just like the feel and control, which I assume is your
> case with treadling.) =A0BTICBW
> Just for the record (and kicks & grins) we don't own a microwave oven,
> and we're very adept at heating/cooking with wood (even though we
> don't resort to it except in case of outages...)
The Bernina 1008 is a totally mechanical machine. There is no
electricity going to the machine whatsoever. The conversion was made
as a result of my doing business with a local Old Order Mennonite
family that sells Berninas. They make the parts necessary to adapt the
power source to treadle as a result of the Amish and Mennonite
communities desire for such a machine, due to their religious belief
in withdrawal from the modern elements of society. I always thought it
would be fun to do one of the conversions and, while not Mennonite or
Amish, I am somebody who does woodworking by hand. It is more in
keeping with that approach to craft skills, and I just thought it
would be neat. Here is a picture of the machine in question, with the
cabinet it sits in, along with the treadle mechanism.
http://community.webshots.com/album/570771971wBdAuS
John
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Posted by Maria O on March 31, 2009, 7:56 pm
Singers and presumably other SMs such as Nationals and New Homes and
so on produce three stitches for each revolution of the handwheel. The
speed at which the handwheel revolves depends on the size of the
treadle drive wheel as well as the stamina of the operator. Domestic
treadles have wheels in the 12 inch range, while industrial treadles
have 16 inch wheels, and consequently spin the handwheel much faster.
Yes, there are still industrial treadle machines around, and people
who like to people-power their models 31-15, 44, 95 etc.
I would guess that the upper limit for speed when treadling a domestic
SM is 500 spm or less. Probably much less.
Maria in NE PA
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> With the conversion of the electric Bernina 1008 to treadle, the
> treadle only provides the power for moving the needle up and down. The
> number of stitches, of whatever length, is 3 per full cycle of the
> treadle, on my machine. Not sure if it is the same on the older
> Singers and such. The stitch length is governed by the setting on the
> machine, just as if it was electrified. It can coast to a stop but a
> quick hand on the hand wheel will stop it in it's tracks. After a bit
> of use, you develop a feel for the treadle movement and can control
> most of the sewing with the treadle alone. It is the same on the old
> Singers and like machines. The difference with my machine and the old
> Singers, is that I retain all the stitch selections of the electric
> version of the machine, and I have a free arm. You can not sew as fast
> with a treadle as you do with an electric machine, but with any
> familiarity, you can get it going at a fair clip. For me, it is not
> about sewing fast. I have a Janome 1600 straight stitch machine that
> will sew at 1600 stitches per minute if I need to be fast. A treadle,
> is just a type of sewing that appeals to me. Not better or worse, just
> more appealing. I would say, that if you sewed for 4 hours or more on
> a treadle, you would be more tired, than if you had done the same
> sewing on a modern electric. But, it is less stressful as it is slower
> and the exercise is mildly aerobic not muscle straining. Probably
> better for you than just sitting in the chair and making mistakes by
> sewing too fast on the electric.
> John
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Posted by Sandy Ellison on March 31, 2009, 3:48 pm
Howdy!
John said:
"Being as how I am not
trying to accomplish any great volume of quilting by any set deadline,
this type of quilting seems to appeal to my sense of doing something
right and precise the first time, and enjoying it."
Which is why I handquilt. ;-)
Ragmop/Sandy - feeling the love ... of quilting
On 3/30/09 6:52 PM, in article
caf1aea8-6230-467f-85dd-91ab38b859a2@j39g2000yqn.googlegroups.com, "John"
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> I think you know that I converted a Bernina 1008 into a treadle
> powered sewing machine. I haven't really gotten into it to any large
> degree, until now. I am in the middle of the process of quilting
> another of my "use up all the solids" quilts. I heretofore have only
> played around with the treadle for short periods of time as I didn't
> really consider it a serious machine. It was mainly an exercise in
> retro-technology that I had wanted to do for some time. Ok, so I
> decided to devote an entire quilt to this machine and see how I liked
> it. The change to manual, or foot power, required a different group of
> skills to do the things that I did with an electric machine. You do
> the same things but just do them differently. I think I have found a
> new love. This method of sewing is so much more relaxed and yet
> precise that I may never go back to the modern electric machines
> again. I know that is a bit much to say after only doing one quilt.
> But suffice to say, this experience has given me a whole new focus,
> about quilting. You know the whole argument about slow food? Well I am
> here to make a plea for slow quilting. At least as it pertains to
> machine quilting. I am even thinking of converting the other 1008 I
> own into another treadle but with a different cabinet to use it in.
> This has been one of the most enjoyable experiences I have had in a
> long time that involved a sewing machine. It does take a few different
> techniques when it comes to machine operation. You have to do some
> things a little differently, in handling the mechanics of sewing. But
> the slower speed gives you a chance to focus on the precision of
> placing the needle in just the right place as you guide the fabric
> through the pressure foot that it produces a wonderfully clean
> stitching line. I know I was prone to sew too fast, sometimes, with
> the electric machines. I was sometimes forced to rip out and do over
> some less than perfect stitching lines. Not so with this older
> technology. You get it right the first time. Being as how I am not
> trying to accomplish any great volume of quilting by any set deadline,
> this type of quilting seems to appeal to my sense of doing something
> right and precise the first time, and enjoying it. We will have to see
> if the bloom comes off the rose as I continue along this path, but for
> now I have discovered a wonderful way to do something I enjoy and that
> is not a bad thing. It places me in a time frame of mind that I think
> of as simpler and maybe more pure, if that is possible. Maybe it is
> just the romantic in me, but it does work. Just thought I would pass
> along my observations. I will post the pictures of the quilt in a
> couple of days when it is done. We now return control of this thought
> to the 21st century.
>
> John
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Posted by John on March 31, 2009, 4:02 pm
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> Howdy!
> John said:
> "Being as how I am not
> trying to accomplish any great volume of quilting by any set deadline,
> this type of quilting seems to appeal to my sense of doing something
> right and precise the first time, and enjoying it."
> Which is why I handquilt. =A0 ;-)
> Ragmop/Sandy - feeling the love ... of quilting
> On 3/30/09 6:52 PM, in article
> caf1aea8-6230-467f-85dd-91ab38b85...@j39g2000yqn.googlegroups.com, "John"
> > I think you know that I converted a Bernina 1008 into a treadle
> > powered sewing machine. I haven't really gotten into it to any large
> > degree, until now. I am in the middle of the process of quilting
> > another of my "use up all the solids" quilts. I heretofore have only
> > played around with the treadle for short periods of time as I didn't
> > really consider it a serious machine. It was mainly an exercise in
> > retro-technology that I had wanted to do for some time. Ok, so I
> > decided to devote an entire quilt to this machine and see how I liked
> > it. The change to manual, or foot power, required a different group of
> > skills to do the things that I did with an electric machine. You do
> > the same things but just do them differently. =A0I think I have found a
> > new love. This method of sewing is so much more relaxed and yet
> > precise that I may never go back to the modern electric machines
> > again. I know that is a bit much to say after only doing one quilt.
> > But suffice to say, this experience has given me a whole new focus,
> > about quilting. You know the whole argument about slow food? Well I am
> > here to make a plea for slow quilting. At least as it pertains to
> > machine quilting. I am even thinking of converting the other 1008 I
> > own into another treadle but with a different cabinet to use it in.
> > This has been one of the most enjoyable experiences I have had in a
> > long time that involved a sewing machine. It does take a few different
> > techniques when it comes to machine operation. You have to do some
> > things a little differently, in handling the mechanics of sewing. But
> > the slower speed gives you a chance to focus on the precision of
> > placing the needle in just the right place as you guide the fabric
> > through the pressure foot that it produces a wonderfully clean
> > stitching line. I know I was prone to sew too fast, sometimes, with
> > the electric machines. I was sometimes forced to rip out and do over
> > some less than perfect stitching lines. Not so with this older
> > technology. You get it right the first time. Being as how I am not
> > trying to accomplish any great volume of quilting by any set deadline,
> > this type of quilting seems to appeal to my sense of doing something
> > right and precise the first time, and enjoying it. We will have to see
> > if the bloom comes off the rose as I continue along this path, but for
> > now I have discovered a wonderful way to do something I enjoy and that
> > is not a bad thing. It places me in a time frame of mind that I think
> > of as simpler and maybe more pure, if that is possible. Maybe it is
> > just the romantic in me, but it does work. Just thought I would pass
> > along my observations. I will post the pictures of the quilt in a
> > couple of days when it is done. We now return control of this thought
> > to the 21st century.
> > John
Would that I could hand quilt. I have never been able to master the
technique of rocking that stitch into any semblance of nice looking,
even stitches. Possibly with enough practice, I could master it, but
machines are fine for me as I have no problem with handling machinery.
I guess it is a case of whatever works for you.
John
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Posted by AuntK on April 1, 2009, 10:13 pm
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> I think you know that I converted a Bernina 1008 into a treadle
> powered sewing machine. I haven't really gotten into it to any large
> degree, until now. I am in the middle of the process of quilting
> another of my "use up all the solids" quilts. I heretofore have only
> played around with the treadle for short periods of time as I didn't
> really consider it a serious machine. It was mainly an exercise in
> retro-technology that I had wanted to do for some time. Ok, so I
> decided to devote an entire quilt to this machine and see how I liked
> it. The change to manual, or foot power, required a different group of
> skills to do the things that I did with an electric machine. You do
> the same things but just do them differently. =A0I think I have found a
> new love. This method of sewing is so much more relaxed and yet
> precise that I may never go back to the modern electric machines
> again. I know that is a bit much to say after only doing one quilt.
> But suffice to say, this experience has given me a whole new focus,
> about quilting. You know the whole argument about slow food? Well I am
> here to make a plea for slow quilting. At least as it pertains to
> machine quilting. I am even thinking of converting the other 1008 I
> own into another treadle but with a different cabinet to use it in.
> This has been one of the most enjoyable experiences I have had in a
> long time that involved a sewing machine. It does take a few different
> techniques when it comes to machine operation. You have to do some
> things a little differently, in handling the mechanics of sewing. But
> the slower speed gives you a chance to focus on the precision of
> placing the needle in just the right place as you guide the fabric
> through the pressure foot that it produces a wonderfully clean
> stitching line. I know I was prone to sew too fast, sometimes, with
> the electric machines. I was sometimes forced to rip out and do over
> some less than perfect stitching lines. Not so with this older
> technology. You get it right the first time. Being as how I am not
> trying to accomplish any great volume of quilting by any set deadline,
> this type of quilting seems to appeal to my sense of doing something
> right and precise the first time, and enjoying it. We will have to see
> if the bloom comes off the rose as I continue along this path, but for
> now I have discovered a wonderful way to do something I enjoy and that
> is not a bad thing. It places me in a time frame of mind that I think
> of as simpler and maybe more pure, if that is possible. Maybe it is
> just the romantic in me, but it does work. Just thought I would pass
> along my observations. I will post the pictures of the quilt in a
> couple of days when it is done. We now return control of this thought
> to the 21st century.
> John
John,
As Ragmop/Sandy said, this is why I hand quilt. I like to have some
machine piecing going as well but I like the concept of relaxing with
the hand quilting. I may not be particularly good at it but the
recipients haven't complained so far. I've always done some form of
hand work - knitting, crocheting, cross-stich, etc. for as long as I
can remember. It's the old 'take time to smell the roses' for me.
I'm trying to get a treadle together from bits and pieces. I have my
great-grandmother's case/table but the machine has mysteriously
disappeared so I keep dumpster diving looking for one to 'restore'. I
have one that is beyond hope (at least for me) but there seems to be a
plethora of them in this neighborhood. Just don't have much room
currently.
Kim in NJ
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> > treadle only provides the power for moving the needle up and down. The
> > number of stitches, of whatever length, is 3 per full cycle of the
> > treadle, on my machine. Not sure if it is the same on the older
> > Singers and such. The stitch length is governed by the setting on the
> > machine, just as if it was electrified. It can coast to a stop but a
> > quick hand on the hand wheel will stop it in it's tracks. After a bit
> > of use, you develop a feel for the treadle movement and can control
> > most of the sewing with the treadle alone. It is the same on the old
> > Singers and like machines. The difference with my machine and the old
> > Singers, is that I retain all the stitch selections of the electric
> > version of the machine, and I have a free arm.
> Then it appears that you're still plugged in for everything but the
> needle going up & down, or am I misreading that? =A0Which then begs the
> question, what possessed you to make the conversion? =A0Some kind of
> breakdown? =A0Or did you previously have this preference for treadling
> (not that there's anything WRONG with that... =A0I still prefer to draft
> with pencils on vellum on a board rather than a CAD system - it's
> slower, but I just like the feel and control, which I assume is your
> case with treadling.) =A0BTICBW
> Just for the record (and kicks & grins) we don't own a microwave oven,
> and we're very adept at heating/cooking with wood (even though we
> don't resort to it except in case of outages...)