Ives Color Wheel

Posted by on April 23, 2009, 10:25 pm

DW (Am I saying that right?) introduced me to the Ives Color Wheel
this evening (I was showing her the color toy app in the "fun color
wheel" thread...) Sorry if this is a "duh" question, but is anyone
doing anything with this concept (put forth in Wolfram's book, "Color
Play") or is it so basic it no longer merits mention? I'm finding it
(as many topics quiltish, new to me) fascinating. I checked the
archives, and last it was mentioned by name was back in July, ' 05.

Oh, the palettes... THE PALETTES...
Doc Smith

Posted by on April 23, 2009, 11:44 pm

On Apr 23, 7:25=A0pm, Dr.Sm...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
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as i understand it, there are several 'color' wheels, depending on
what you are doing. for example, there is a color wheel for testing
human vision and the rgb (red green blue) color wheel for television.
the ives color wheel is the one used in fabric printing. i have
wolfram's 3-in-1 pocket color tool, similar to the big fan of paint
chip interior decorators use. it matches fabric colors much better
than the paint chips do ;-)

Posted by onetexsun on April 24, 2009, 12:58 am

I like that 3-in-1pocket color tool, too. I love looking at color
theory, but reading about it just confuses the heck out of me. I tend
to wing it on colors. No complaints so far, although maybe that's
because I tend to the brighter side of the spectrum and when you start
working with brighter colors they mostly seem to like each other.

Sunny

Posted by on April 24, 2009, 8:58 am

Back in 1986 I worked for a couple of years for a commercial sewing
thread company in Los anageles. I still have the thread charts we
used. One is a "fan" that is real portable, the other one is like the
old DMC thread charts. Oh, yes, I have one of those DMC charts, also.
Color is a fun thing to play with. I often take my fan chart with me
when I am looking for something just right, whether it is paint or
whatever. And my co-worker borrows it. Someday we may learn to tone it
down in her dressing ;)

Ginger in CA

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Posted by on April 24, 2009, 1:23 am

On Apr 23, 11:44=A0pm, wholeyl...@aol.com wrote:
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Yes, we have the 3-in-1 tool along with the book. I look at the
colors, and so many are so close to each other (and I actually worked
in color-matching out of HS) that I get confused and frustrated.
Trying to guess at RGB values to replicate colors in the book or tool
is virtually impossible, unless someone knows some secret, trick, or
place where I can obtain values (as I did with the Arts & Crafts
colors).

As DW explained it to me though, using the Ives wheel results in more
startling (impressive?) contrasts & compliments than using a
traditional RYB wheel. Having a somewhat logical mind, I figured if
you want a green that's exactly halfway between yellow and blue, you
would use equal parts of each (or split the RGB values evenly) but it
turns out that it doesn't always look that way to the eye. And then
some of the coolest hues aren't necessarily the pure ones, but have
some of the third primary thrown in... but how much? Math & science
seem to be going out the window in favor of the eye. That's ok...
until you look at your fabric/color under different kinds of light
(incandescent/flourescent/sunlight) due to the chemicals making up the
dyes. But you folks know all this stuff, right?

Doc

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