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Posted by NightMist on August 10, 2009, 2:49 pm
After talking to a few folk I figured I better issue a clarification
and elaboration.
Yes I am in the process of switching from standard cigarettes to
electronic cigarettes.
Yes they do lower ones potential cancer profile.
No it is not the vapor per se that is making me hack up gobs of goo.
The vapor is essentially water vapor, which makes me hack up the gobs
of goo that have dehydrated onto my airways over the course of 20 odd
years of smoking analog cigs.
The base for the fluid is either propylene glycol or vegetable
glycerin. Both these substances have been tested and found to have no
effect on the rates of tumors in mice. Which is a really freaky thing
since lab mice get cancer if you sneeze two rooms away.
No they don't taste like analog cigarettes.
Currently we are buying taste-free fluid with a high nicotine content
and cutting it by fifty percent with vegetable glycerin, then adding
our own flavorings. I am currently "vapeing" butter rum.
Yes a whole lot of people cut way back on the nicotine content of
their vapor as they go along. It is very easy to do. In fact a lot
of people on the e-cig forums no longer put any nicotine in their
fluid at all.
No, I am not particularly interested in quitting smoking.
I like smoking. E-cigs area heck of a lot less expensive since they
at present evade the tax structure. Even out at the reservation
cigarettes are up to $20+ a carton. After the initial investment,
e-cigs run about 25 cents for the same amount.
I probably will work on cutting the nicotine content out comletely. I
expect the government will tax the fluid outrageously eventually.
Putting vegetable glycerin into the same tax structure will be
problematical for them. (G)
I'm kind of terse here because of course the minute I turned the
computer on another thunderstorm started rolling in...
NightMist
Not proofreading because getting struck by lightening sucks wide, or
so I am told. (G)
--
Legolas is my house elf
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Posted by onetexsun on August 10, 2009, 3:06 pm
I have never heard of e-cigarettes. But, if you can have e-sex, then I
figure you can smoke an e-cig afterwards. (yeah, in bad taste but then
so is most of my humor) Nightmist, I applaud you for taken ANY step to
make your health better. It's hard to change a habit, especially one
you've had for a long time and that you like a lot. Take me for
instance, I need to stop eating the foods I most enjoy. Not gonna do
it -- at least not for long enough to make a big difference. I've cut
out butter (and 90% of those "lite" butter replacements), fried food,
white bread (except when I eat tuna sandwiches and those MUST go on
white bread), real sugar in my tea (whimper), doughnuts, cake except
for household birthdays (4 a year with 3 concentrated into a three-
week period in late July and early August) and so on. But I still love
cookies and give in once in a while. I love good pies, and can't help
myself from making a devilishly good lemon pie several times a year
and eating humiliatingly big pieces.
Long way to say I admire you for taking steps to change your smoking
habit. If inhaling water vapor gives you cancer then the makers of
the humidifier I sleep beside will have to start putting black box
warnings on the thing.
As for mice, I long ago figured out why they get cancer (all of them,
and rats too). They live too damned long. Prolonged exposure to
researchers. It's an obvious carcinogen.
Sunny
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Posted by Leslie& The Furbabies in MO. on August 10, 2009, 3:16 pm
I'm suffering dreadfully in quitting smoking- trying to quit for the
10,000th time it seems. Are these 'e-cigs' for real or is this a joke of
some kind??? If it's for real where does one get them and how do you 'learn'
to use them?
I'm desperate!
Leslie & The Furbabies in MO.
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> After talking to a few folk I figured I better issue a clarification
> and elaboration.
> Yes I am in the process of switching from standard cigarettes to
> electronic cigarettes.
> Yes they do lower ones potential cancer profile.
> No it is not the vapor per se that is making me hack up gobs of goo.
> The vapor is essentially water vapor, which makes me hack up the gobs
> of goo that have dehydrated onto my airways over the course of 20 odd
> years of smoking analog cigs.
> The base for the fluid is either propylene glycol or vegetable
> glycerin. Both these substances have been tested and found to have no
> effect on the rates of tumors in mice. Which is a really freaky thing
> since lab mice get cancer if you sneeze two rooms away.
> No they don't taste like analog cigarettes.
> Currently we are buying taste-free fluid with a high nicotine content
> and cutting it by fifty percent with vegetable glycerin, then adding
> our own flavorings. I am currently "vapeing" butter rum.
> Yes a whole lot of people cut way back on the nicotine content of
> their vapor as they go along. It is very easy to do. In fact a lot
> of people on the e-cig forums no longer put any nicotine in their
> fluid at all.
> No, I am not particularly interested in quitting smoking.
> I like smoking. E-cigs area heck of a lot less expensive since they
> at present evade the tax structure. Even out at the reservation
> cigarettes are up to $20+ a carton. After the initial investment,
> e-cigs run about 25 cents for the same amount.
> I probably will work on cutting the nicotine content out comletely. I
> expect the government will tax the fluid outrageously eventually.
> Putting vegetable glycerin into the same tax structure will be
> problematical for them. (G)
> I'm kind of terse here because of course the minute I turned the
> computer on another thunderstorm started rolling in...
> NightMist
> Not proofreading because getting struck by lightening sucks wide, or
> so I am told. (G)
> --
> Legolas is my house elf
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Posted by Taria on August 10, 2009, 4:01 pm
Sending just do it somehow energy your
way Leslie. Maybe this can be an option
to help you win your battle and the war.
Taria
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> I'm suffering dreadfully in quitting smoking- trying to quit for the
> 10,000th time it seems. Are these 'e-cigs' for real or is this a joke of
> some kind??? If it's for real where does one get them and how do you
> 'learn' to use them?
> I'm desperate!
> Leslie & The Furbabies in MO.
>> After talking to a few folk I figured I better issue a clarification
>> and elaboration.
>> Yes I am in the process of switching from standard cigarettes to
>> electronic cigarettes.
>> Yes they do lower ones potential cancer profile.
>> No it is not the vapor per se that is making me hack up gobs of goo.
>> The vapor is essentially water vapor, which makes me hack up the gobs
>> of goo that have dehydrated onto my airways over the course of 20 odd
>> years of smoking analog cigs.
>> The base for the fluid is either propylene glycol or vegetable
>> glycerin. Both these substances have been tested and found to have no
>> effect on the rates of tumors in mice. Which is a really freaky thing
>> since lab mice get cancer if you sneeze two rooms away.
>> No they don't taste like analog cigarettes.
>> Currently we are buying taste-free fluid with a high nicotine content
>> and cutting it by fifty percent with vegetable glycerin, then adding
>> our own flavorings. I am currently "vapeing" butter rum.
>> Yes a whole lot of people cut way back on the nicotine content of
>> their vapor as they go along. It is very easy to do. In fact a lot
>> of people on the e-cig forums no longer put any nicotine in their
>> fluid at all.
>> No, I am not particularly interested in quitting smoking.
>> I like smoking. E-cigs area heck of a lot less expensive since they
>> at present evade the tax structure. Even out at the reservation
>> cigarettes are up to $20+ a carton. After the initial investment,
>> e-cigs run about 25 cents for the same amount.
>> I probably will work on cutting the nicotine content out comletely. I
>> expect the government will tax the fluid outrageously eventually.
>> Putting vegetable glycerin into the same tax structure will be
>> problematical for them. (G)
>> I'm kind of terse here because of course the minute I turned the
>> computer on another thunderstorm started rolling in...
>> NightMist
>> Not proofreading because getting struck by lightening sucks wide, or
>> so I am told. (G)
>> --
>> Legolas is my house elf
>
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Posted by amy in CNY on August 11, 2009, 9:38 am
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> Sending just do it somehow energy your
> way Leslie. =A0Maybe this can be an option
> to help you win your battle =A0and the war.
> Taria
I second this!
Leslie, just throw them away, cigs, lighters, matches, ashtrays, all
of it. Then Lysol/disinfect your house, get rid of the smell. Walk
everyday you can. Drink lots of water. Pray. Keep busy.
This is what i did for two months straight, worked for me, 12 years
ago. Never went back.
I'm so glad I quit.
We'll be there for you. Give it a try.
amy in CNY
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> and elaboration.
> Yes I am in the process of switching from standard cigarettes to
> electronic cigarettes.
> Yes they do lower ones potential cancer profile.
> No it is not the vapor per se that is making me hack up gobs of goo.
> The vapor is essentially water vapor, which makes me hack up the gobs
> of goo that have dehydrated onto my airways over the course of 20 odd
> years of smoking analog cigs.
> The base for the fluid is either propylene glycol or vegetable
> glycerin. Both these substances have been tested and found to have no
> effect on the rates of tumors in mice. Which is a really freaky thing
> since lab mice get cancer if you sneeze two rooms away.
> No they don't taste like analog cigarettes.
> Currently we are buying taste-free fluid with a high nicotine content
> and cutting it by fifty percent with vegetable glycerin, then adding
> our own flavorings. I am currently "vapeing" butter rum.
> Yes a whole lot of people cut way back on the nicotine content of
> their vapor as they go along. It is very easy to do. In fact a lot
> of people on the e-cig forums no longer put any nicotine in their
> fluid at all.
> No, I am not particularly interested in quitting smoking.
> I like smoking. E-cigs area heck of a lot less expensive since they
> at present evade the tax structure. Even out at the reservation
> cigarettes are up to $20+ a carton. After the initial investment,
> e-cigs run about 25 cents for the same amount.
> I probably will work on cutting the nicotine content out comletely. I
> expect the government will tax the fluid outrageously eventually.
> Putting vegetable glycerin into the same tax structure will be
> problematical for them. (G)
> I'm kind of terse here because of course the minute I turned the
> computer on another thunderstorm started rolling in...
> NightMist
> Not proofreading because getting struck by lightening sucks wide, or
> so I am told. (G)
> --
> Legolas is my house elf