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Posted by onetexsun on October 13, 2009, 12:37 am
Michelle, yes, that book is wonderful and has helped many people,
including me, during hard times.
Sunny
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Posted by Kate XXXXXX on October 13, 2009, 4:37 am
Anne Rogers wrote:
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> onetexsun wrote:
>> Dear Anne, I'm so sorry that you and your family continue to have
>> difficulty. I hope though, that you won't forget that your well-being
>> and that of the children is the most important focus. Sleep is so
>> important. And when it's needed most can be the time when it's hardest
>> to achieve. I understand how important it is to spend time in
>> communion with God. But I would remind you that the Bible also tells
>> us that God hears and sees what is in our hearts. Even when you're
>> sleeping, I know that God hears what's in your heart. (The sleep you
>> need so much is itself a gift from God, don't you think?)
>> Anne, you may not agree with me, but I just can't believe that your
>> faith is being tested. I truly don't believe God works that way,
>> piling miseries on us and then punishing us for being miserable. God
>> made you, made the baby, loves you (and all of us) with infinite and
>> unceasing love. When you feel that you have failed God, just remember
>> that Grace surrounds us always and is freely given regardless of
>> whether or not we've "earned" it. Life is hitting you hard lately. No
>> question. But I don't believe that you have sinned or brought on a
>> test or otherwise displeased God. You are a child of God, beautiful
>> in his eyes, and loved eternally.
>> Hugs and prayers and many good wishes,
>> Sunny
>> (I'm on my way to your facebook page)
>
> Sunny, I'm choosing to be completely open about my faith and to be
> specific not vague. I really don't want to start a debate, but I feel
> it's probably beneficial for me to explain exactly where I'm coming from
> on both of these issues, knowing that many christians would still
> disagree with me.
>
> On the issue of getting up at 6, I believe God calls us to abide with
> him daily and more recently I've been convicted that the best time for
> that is early in the morning, the sentiment of this is given in the
> story of the vine in John 15:1-11, though it's that in combination with
> a lot of other verses that convict me it needs to be a daily habit. The
> bible demonstrates people praying at all times of day, but I've noticed
> in myself that if I dedicate the time first thing in the morning, I also
> turn to him more frequently during the day!
There's a very good reason why religious orders got up in the wee small
ours to listen to the still small voice... If it works for you, do it.
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>
> Regarding trials, I'm feeling a little unclear theologically on some of
> that, I have questions for my pastor! But James 1:2-4 "Count it all joy,
> my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, for you know that
> the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. And let steadfastness
> have full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in
> nothing". So I don't think God is punishing me, He knows I can take the
> tests and I'm truly rejoicing that they are coming my way. You'd think
> that complete paralysis would be very frightening, but even before I
> turned to God in prayer, He was working within me to keep me calm and
> reminding me that He was in complete control. When I could finally speak
> again I was rejoicing in the experience I'd had.
Not sure I'd go along with that all the way, but if it helps to keep you
calm when a mass of panic would be seriously counter productive, it's
working for you.
I'm glad you have found a measure of calm and peace in this set of troubles.
--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
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Posted by on October 13, 2009, 8:56 am
I believe that a person is made up of physical, emotional, spiritual
and mental components. Each of these components have to be addressed
and balanced for us to feel "our best". What works one day is not
quite the right combination the next day.
A bit over a week ago I put my concerns aside, in an effort to assist
you in what you had posted was deep depression and suicidal thoughts.
I contacted my sister who works at the hospital near you, and posted
here how to get there, who to speak with, even her name since she was
available to work with you. I didn't have to do that, and neither did
she. Not even a "thank you, I appreciate the effort" comment from you.
Coming now it would be too late, coming after prompting from me it
would not seem heartfelt. She concurred with me that you were just
seeking attention and didn't want to really get help.
Ginger in CA
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> onetexsun wrote:
> > Dear Anne, I'm so sorry that you and your family continue to have
> > difficulty. I hope though, that you won't forget that your well-being
> > and that of the children is the most important focus. Sleep is so
> > important. And when it's needed most can be the time when it's hardest
> > to achieve. I understand how important it is to spend time in
> > communion with God. But I would remind you that the Bible also tells
> > us that God hears and sees what is in our hearts. Even when you're
> > sleeping, I know that God hears what's in your heart. (The sleep you
> > need so much is itself a gift from God, don't you think?)
> > Anne, you may not agree with me, but I just can't believe that your
> > faith is being tested. I truly don't believe God works that way,
> > piling miseries on us and then punishing us for being miserable. God
> > made you, made the baby, loves you (and all of us) with infinite and
> > unceasing love. When you feel that you have failed God, just remember
> > that Grace surrounds us always and is freely given regardless of
> > whether or not we've "earned" it. Life is hitting you hard lately. No
> > question. But I don't believe that you have sinned or brought on a
> > test or otherwise displeased God. You are a =A0child of God, beautiful
> > in his eyes, and loved eternally.
> > Hugs and prayers and many good wishes,
> > Sunny
> > (I'm on my way to your facebook page)
> Sunny, I'm choosing to be completely open about my faith and to be
> specific not vague. I really don't want to start a debate, but I feel
> it's probably beneficial for me to explain exactly where I'm coming from
> on both of these issues, knowing that many christians would still
> disagree with me.
> On the issue of getting up at 6, I believe God calls us to abide with
> him daily and more recently I've been convicted that the best time for
> that is early in the morning, the sentiment of this is given in the
> story of the vine in John 15:1-11, though it's that in combination with
> a lot of other verses that convict me it needs to be a daily habit. The
> bible demonstrates people praying at all times of day, but I've noticed
> in myself that if I dedicate the time first thing in the morning, I also
> turn to him more frequently during the day!
> Regarding trials, I'm feeling a little unclear theologically on some of
> that, I have questions for my pastor! But James 1:2-4 "Count it all joy,
> my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, for you know that
> the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. And let steadfastness
> have full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in
> nothing". So I don't think God is punishing me, He knows I can take the
> tests and I'm truly rejoicing that they are coming my way. You'd think
> that complete paralysis would be very frightening, but even before I
> turned to God in prayer, He was working within me to keep me calm and
> reminding me that He was in complete control. When I could finally speak
> again I was rejoicing in the experience I'd had.
> Cheers
> Anne- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
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Posted by Taria on October 13, 2009, 10:58 am
Thank you Ginger for kindly saying what others of us have
been thinking. This whole thing has been so bazarre to
watch unfold. I hope Anne's handlers step up
and help her. She would probably be better served to have
her internet removed. This kind of thing serves nobody in
such a public, long lasting forum.
Taria
I believe that a person is made up of physical, emotional, spiritual
and mental components. Each of these components have to be addressed
and balanced for us to feel "our best". What works one day is not
quite the right combination the next day.
A bit over a week ago I put my concerns aside, in an effort to assist
you in what you had posted was deep depression and suicidal thoughts.
I contacted my sister who works at the hospital near you, and posted
here how to get there, who to speak with, even her name since she was
available to work with you. I didn't have to do that, and neither did
she. Not even a "thank you, I appreciate the effort" comment from you.
Coming now it would be too late, coming after prompting from me it
would not seem heartfelt. She concurred with me that you were just
seeking attention and didn't want to really get help.
Ginger in CA
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Posted by Anne Rogers on October 13, 2009, 1:32 pm
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> A bit over a week ago I put my concerns aside, in an effort to assist
> you in what you had posted was deep depression and suicidal thoughts.
> I contacted my sister who works at the hospital near you, and posted
> here how to get there, who to speak with, even her name since she was
> available to work with you. I didn't have to do that, and neither did
> she. Not even a "thank you, I appreciate the effort" comment from you.
> Coming now it would be too late, coming after prompting from me it
> would not seem heartfelt. She concurred with me that you were just
> seeking attention and didn't want to really get help.
I'm sure I replied to that post, I certainly remember reading it. My
reply was something along the lines of us not being with Group Health,
so it wouldn't have been something I could easily access.
Cheers
Anne
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>> Dear Anne, I'm so sorry that you and your family continue to have
>> difficulty. I hope though, that you won't forget that your well-being
>> and that of the children is the most important focus. Sleep is so
>> important. And when it's needed most can be the time when it's hardest
>> to achieve. I understand how important it is to spend time in
>> communion with God. But I would remind you that the Bible also tells
>> us that God hears and sees what is in our hearts. Even when you're
>> sleeping, I know that God hears what's in your heart. (The sleep you
>> need so much is itself a gift from God, don't you think?)
>> Anne, you may not agree with me, but I just can't believe that your
>> faith is being tested. I truly don't believe God works that way,
>> piling miseries on us and then punishing us for being miserable. God
>> made you, made the baby, loves you (and all of us) with infinite and
>> unceasing love. When you feel that you have failed God, just remember
>> that Grace surrounds us always and is freely given regardless of
>> whether or not we've "earned" it. Life is hitting you hard lately. No
>> question. But I don't believe that you have sinned or brought on a
>> test or otherwise displeased God. You are a child of God, beautiful
>> in his eyes, and loved eternally.
>> Hugs and prayers and many good wishes,
>> Sunny
>> (I'm on my way to your facebook page)
>
> Sunny, I'm choosing to be completely open about my faith and to be
> specific not vague. I really don't want to start a debate, but I feel
> it's probably beneficial for me to explain exactly where I'm coming from
> on both of these issues, knowing that many christians would still
> disagree with me.
>
> On the issue of getting up at 6, I believe God calls us to abide with
> him daily and more recently I've been convicted that the best time for
> that is early in the morning, the sentiment of this is given in the
> story of the vine in John 15:1-11, though it's that in combination with
> a lot of other verses that convict me it needs to be a daily habit. The
> bible demonstrates people praying at all times of day, but I've noticed
> in myself that if I dedicate the time first thing in the morning, I also
> turn to him more frequently during the day!