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> I'm sorry to see that the group has "turned" on Anne. She obviously
> needs help; now, whether she will accept it is another story. If she is
> experiencing mental problems, her view of her health is probably altered
> and her ability to know that she must get help and accept it is
> lacking. I know it's extremely frustrating trying to help someone who
> does not grasp that they need help. Maybe we should just be there for
> her. There's not much else we can do via email. I know many of us have
> offered prayers and advice and direct help. Other than that we cannot
> have to many expectations of her.
> God bless mental health workers,
> Michelle G.
>
>> I read your message, Ginger. And as I recall, Anne didn't have to be
>> part of Group Health to get the help your sister offered. Your sister
>> was very generous in allowing her info to be posted in a public forum
>> such as this. Anyone truly ill would jump at any source of help not
>> pick and choose because of convenience. Anne is definitely ill
>> whether it be PP depression or something else causing her to demand
>> attention.
>> Nuff said, I'm going back to my sewing machine.
>> --
>> Mary
>> http://community.webshots.com/user/mardor1948?vhost=community
>> I believe that a person is made up of physical, emotional, spiritual
>> and mental components. Each of these components have to be addressed
>> and balanced for us to feel "our best". What works one day is not
>> quite the right combination the next day.
>> A bit over a week ago I put my concerns aside, in an effort to assist
>> you in what you had posted was deep depression and suicidal thoughts.
>> I contacted my sister who works at the hospital near you, and posted
>> here how to get there, who to speak with, even her name since she was
>> available to work with you. I didn't have to do that, and neither did
>> she. Not even a "thank you, I appreciate the effort" comment from you.
>> Coming now it would be too late, coming after prompting from me it
>> would not seem heartfelt. She concurred with me that you were just
>> seeking attention and didn't want to really get help.
>> Ginger in CA
>

> Michelle,
> I'm glad you addressed this because I didn't quite know how. I agree with
> your assessment. However, it seems to me that it is not the entire group;
> just a few.
> Best regards,
> Michelle in Nevada
> Michelle G. wrote:
>> I'm sorry to see that the group has "turned" on Anne. She obviously
>> needs help; now, whether she will accept it is another story. If she is
>> experiencing mental problems, her view of her health is probably altered
>> and her ability to know that she must get help and accept it is lacking.
>> I know it's extremely frustrating trying to help someone who does not
>> grasp that they need help. Maybe we should just be there for her.
>> There's not much else we can do via email. I know many of us have
>> offered prayers and advice and direct help. Other than that we cannot
>> have to many expectations of her.
>> God bless mental health workers,
>> Michelle G.

> I'm sorry to see that the group has "turned" on Anne. She obviously needs
> help; now, whether she will accept it is another story. If she is
> experiencing mental problems, her view of her health is probably altered
> and her ability to know that she must get help and accept it is lacking.
> I know it's extremely frustrating trying to help someone who does not
> grasp that they need help. Maybe we should just be there for her.
> There's not much else we can do via email. I know many of us have offered
> prayers and advice and direct help. Other than that we cannot have to
> many expectations of her.
> God bless mental health workers,
> Michelle G.
>>I read your message, Ginger. And as I recall, Anne didn't have to be part
>>of Group Health to get the help your sister offered. Your sister was very
>>generous in allowing her info to be posted in a public forum such as this.
>>Anyone truly ill would jump at any source of help not pick and choose
>>because of convenience. Anne is definitely ill whether it be PP
>>depression or something else causing her to demand attention.
>> Nuff said, I'm going back to my sewing machine.
>> --
>> Mary
>> http://community.webshots.com/user/mardor1948?vhost=community
>> I believe that a person is made up of physical, emotional, spiritual
>> and mental components. Each of these components have to be addressed
>> and balanced for us to feel "our best". What works one day is not
>> quite the right combination the next day.
>> A bit over a week ago I put my concerns aside, in an effort to assist
>> you in what you had posted was deep depression and suicidal thoughts.
>> I contacted my sister who works at the hospital near you, and posted
>> here how to get there, who to speak with, even her name since she was
>> available to work with you. I didn't have to do that, and neither did
>> she. Not even a "thank you, I appreciate the effort" comment from you.
>> Coming now it would be too late, coming after prompting from me it
>> would not seem heartfelt. She concurred with me that you were just
>> seeking attention and didn't want to really get help.
>> Ginger in CA
>

> Some of us have a medical background and tho we believed everything at
> first, as time went on, it became more difficult to believe. IMO it would
> have been better if this had been kept in emails between Anne and those
> sympathetic friends, not in a quilting group.
> --
> Mary
> http://community.webshots.com/user/mardor1948?vhost=community
>> I'm sorry to see that the group has "turned" on Anne. She obviously
>> needs help; now, whether she will accept it is another story. If she is
>> experiencing mental problems, her view of her health is probably altered
>> and her ability to know that she must get help and accept it is lacking.
>> I know it's extremely frustrating trying to help someone who does not
>> grasp that they need help. Maybe we should just be there for her.
>> There's not much else we can do via email. I know many of us have
>> offered prayers and advice and direct help. Other than that we cannot
>> have to many expectations of her.
>> God bless mental health workers,
>> Michelle G.
>>>I read your message, Ginger. And as I recall, Anne didn't have to be
>>>part of Group Health to get the help your sister offered. Your sister
>>>was very generous in allowing her info to be posted in a public forum
>>>such as this. Anyone truly ill would jump at any source of help not pick
>>>and choose because of convenience. Anne is definitely ill whether it be
>>>PP depression or something else causing her to demand attention.
>>> Nuff said, I'm going back to my sewing machine.
>>> --
>>> Mary
>>> http://community.webshots.com/user/mardor1948?vhost=community
>>> I believe that a person is made up of physical, emotional, spiritual
>>> and mental components. Each of these components have to be addressed
>>> and balanced for us to feel "our best". What works one day is not
>>> quite the right combination the next day.
>>> A bit over a week ago I put my concerns aside, in an effort to assist
>>> you in what you had posted was deep depression and suicidal thoughts.
>>> I contacted my sister who works at the hospital near you, and posted
>>> here how to get there, who to speak with, even her name since she was
>>> available to work with you. I didn't have to do that, and neither did
>>> she. Not even a "thank you, I appreciate the effort" comment from you.
>>> Coming now it would be too late, coming after prompting from me it
>>> would not seem heartfelt. She concurred with me that you were just
>>> seeking attention and didn't want to really get help.
>>> Ginger in CA
>

> A "medical background" does not necessarily result in an unclouded
> perspective. =A0On the contrary, one of the saddest things about sufferin=

> its tendency to harden the hearts of those around it. =A0I have personall=

> been the victim of outright ignorance and cruelty on the part of the medi=

> "community," and I have PTSD because of it. =A0I cannot trust any medical
> professional until they have earned my trust, and that's not easy to do.
> Nothing personal; I'm just saying that professing a medical background do=

> not, and should not, earn the trust of many of us.
> I was appalled to see how someone (I have puposefully forgotten who) was
> angry at Anne for not paying attention to some relation or friend who was=

> nurse, and being inadequately grateful for her advice. =A0Talk about your
> arrogance.
> When my mother was in the hospital for two months while they tried to fig=

> out what was wrong with her kidney, and I held her power of attorney, one=

> my brothers came to me and said that he had spoken to a retired nurse who
> said that all kidney problems could be diagnosed and treated within two
> weeks. =A0That's just bull. =A0But it cause problems in my family because=

> nurse had butted in where she had no business.
> Similarly, I and my SO sometimes find it necessary explain my demeanor to
> some nosy neighbor in a hospital room by telling them I have PTSD. =A0Mos=

> such people say something to the effect that they understand and then the=

> mind their own business. =A0But I have sometimes have such strangers insi=

> that I take their name and phone number so they can share their own wisdo=

> impose their opinions as a nurse on me, drag me to their church, or
> otherwise demonstrate what fools they are.
> Anne has as much right as I do to ignore the advice of strangers, mistrus=

> medical professionals or people with "a medical background," or anyone wh=

> is unkind to her. =A0She shows better sense than the people trying to adv=

> her by doing so.
> Just my two cents. =A0A very well-educated and experience two cents.
> ep
> > Some of us have a medical background and tho we believed everything at
> > first, as time went on, it became more difficult to believe. =A0IMO it =

> > have been better if this had been kept in emails between Anne and those
> > sympathetic friends, not in a quilting group.
> > --
> > Mary
> >http://community.webshots.com/user/mardor1948?vhost=3Dcommunity
> >> I'm sorry to see that the group has "turned" on Anne. =A0She obviously
> >> needs help; now, whether she will accept it is another story. =A0If sh=

> >> experiencing mental problems, her view of her health is probably alter=

> >> and her ability to know that she must get help and accept it is lackin=

> >> I know it's extremely frustrating trying to help someone who does not
> >> grasp that they need help. =A0Maybe we should just be there for her.
> >> There's not much else we can do via email. =A0I know many of us have
> >> offered prayers and advice and direct help. =A0Other than that we cann=

> >> have to many expectations of her.
> >> God bless mental health workers,
> >> Michelle G.
> >>>I read your message, Ginger. =A0And as I recall, Anne didn't have to b=

> >>>part of Group Health to get the help your sister offered. =A0Your sist=

> >>>was very generous in allowing her info to be posted in a public forum
> >>>such as this. Anyone truly ill would jump at any source of help not pi=

> >>>and choose because of convenience. =A0Anne is definitely ill whether i=

> >>>PP depression or something else causing her to demand attention.
> >>> Nuff said, I'm going back to my sewing machine.
> >>> --
> >>> Mary
> >>>http://community.webshots.com/user/mardor1948?vhost=3Dcommunity

> >>> I believe that a person is made up of physical, emotional, spiritual
> >>> and mental components. Each of these components have to be addressed
> >>> and balanced for us to feel "our best". What works one day is not
> >>> quite the right combination the next day.
> >>> A bit over a week ago I put my concerns aside, in an effort to assist
> >>> you in what you had posted was deep depression and suicidal thoughts.
> >>> I contacted my sister who works at the hospital near you, and posted
> >>> here how to get there, who to speak with, even her name since she was
> >>> available to work with you. I didn't have to do that, and neither did
> >>> she. Not even a "thank you, I appreciate the effort" comment from you=

> >>> Coming now it would be too late, coming after prompting from me it
> >>> would not seem heartfelt. She concurred with me that you were just
> >>> seeking attention and didn't want to really get help.
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