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OT Strangeness with Strangers including recipe NightMist 09-16-2009
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Posted by Louise in Iowa on September 18, 2009, 1:55 pm


I was telling DH about our discussion, and we decided to head for Sykora
Bakery in Czech Village for coffee and kolache! And I learned something new.
I was getting confused by the different names I was seeing (kolache,
kolacky, etc.) and was mistakenly thinking they were just different names
for the same thing. Wrong! Now probably everybody else had that figured
out - I'm just a little slow sometimes. We had kolache this morning - like
what was shown in the picture Sandy E. linked to (a soft sweet roll-type
pastry with a fruit filling - about 3"x3" or a little bigger). But . . .
they also had the cookie that was a flat square of pastry with a fruit
filling and the two corners brought together in the middle. I hadn't seen
those before, and they explained those were called kolacky. So now, I'm
unconfused - for the time being at least!
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Louise in Iowa
nieland1390@mchsi dot com
http://community.webshots.com/user/louiseiniowa


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Posted by Listpig on September 18, 2009, 7:51 pm


Nope, it's not that simple. What I'm talking about is *not* sweet roll type
pastry.....it's very definitely a cookie, akin to shortbread dough. Same
with the rolled out one with the corners to the middle. And which name is
applied to which cookie---based on 50 years of observing Chicago area
bakeries and grocery stores---is pretty random.

Checking a dictionary will tell you that kolache, kolachky, kolacky,
kolaczki are all considered to be the same word. Just depends on whether
your source is Czech, Bohemian, Polish, Hungarian.....and/or which was
dominant in the neighborhood they grew up in. (And how well they spell, for
all that..... :)

Seem to be two pronunciations: koh-LOTCH-ee and koh-LOTCH-kee. Once again,
seems to be neighborhood/ethnicity based, but everyone gets that it's the
same thing......the only question being whether it's the round kind or the
folded kind.

--pig


On 9/18/09 13:55, in article UPPsm.56154$la3.652@attbi_s22, "Louise in Iowa"

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Posted by Maureen Wozniak on September 18, 2009, 9:02 am


On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:17:45 -0500, Listpig wrote

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Agree with you there Megan. MMM, pierogi. Might be time to get out my
grandma's recipe.

Maureen


Posted by Taria on September 18, 2009, 9:11 am


I think you hit on an important point here Maureen. Get out
grandma's recipes once in awhile and remember her fondly
as you enjoy food that others before you have enjoyed. It
really is a good think IMO.
Taria
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Posted by NightMist on September 17, 2009, 5:52 pm



I have only ever know one honest to gosh Hungarian lady in my whole
life. I was so not going to argue her recipes with her!
According to her you have kolache and you have kifli. The dough is
about the same, just more sour cream in the kolache shaped dough thus
they poof up a bit more.
With kolache you make squares of dough, then put in the filling and
make the corners meet in the center, like with love letters (I was
never able to pronounce those much less attempt spelling them!
szelermes lefle? maybe? close? no? oh well)
With kifli you start with circles of dough, put the filling in, and
fold them in half and give them a little curl to make crescents.

I do know a lass in California who misses her Hungarian gramma's
holiday cooking. So we send out a Christmas care package to her every
year, full of things like kolache and kifli, and a sack of szalonkukor
because it just isn't the same if you buy them yourself. Of course we
also send isli. Isli is just the part of the name I was able to say
when I learned to make them, I believe they are easier to find a
recipe for if you look for ischel cookies.
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NightMist
thats bragging rights there (G)

On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:57:49 -0500, "Edna Pearl"

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