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Posted by DiMa on October 2, 2009, 6:40 am
Anne,
I suffered as you are now. Please do not stop your med, it would be very bad
for you and make you even more unwell.
Please listen to the other posters, think of yourself and the baby first -
the other children will be well cared for my their father.
I am so sorry I am in Australia, I would love to give you a hug and say;
Let's find somewhere/someone for you to talk to who will know exactly what
is wrong.
Stay in touch with us, we do love you.
--
Di
I'm creative! You can't expect me to be neat too.
Vic Australia
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>> Anne, why one earth would you put yourself though misery to prove a point
>> to people who obviously care nothing about you.
>> Take your meds and find a new church.
> I wish it were that simple, we moved here 3 years ago today (checks it's
> past midnight), we decided to go to a Saturday evening service at a church
> that we knew one family at (coincidencently they had been in our church in
> the UK, them moved to this area, we didn't realise how close until we
> started looking at maps). We got to know a lot of people who went to that
> service, we'd been attracted by the children's work, so unsurprisingly we
> got to know many people who had children similar ages to us. Then this
> last year, this service became a church plant, though of course we know a
> lot of people at the main church, particularly me, as I participated in
> women's bible studies and a quilt group. My husband has no interest in
> finding a new church, he doesn't recognise the harm people have done me,
> he sees it as me self pitying when I try to explain how things have harmed
> me. Even when we've been to the psychotherpist together and discussed this
> issue, he is in completely disagreement with even temporarily finding a
> new church. I don't think it would be fair for anyone for me to go back to
> the old church, so I'd be left looking for a church just me and the baby,
> which isn't a good situation to be in, if it came to me deciding a really
> just needed a temporary break, I'd be better off sat at home listening to
> a podcast of a church sermon.
> Cheers
> Anne
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Posted by on October 2, 2009, 8:53 am
Anne, please be strong and do what is going to be the best for you and
your baby. It's okay to attend a different church than your husband.
Find a group that you are comfortable with and who will support you.
Call the County Health services and ask for a PPD group, explain
briefly your situation. They will assist you. You need attention right
now, today, not next week. We want you around next week.
Where [again] are you in northern California? I have a sister, father
and niece in the upper half of the state, if you are near their area I
may be able to get you some referral group names.
Please stay here with us,
Ginger in CA
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> > Anne, why one earth would you put yourself though misery to prove a poi=
nt to
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> > people who obviously care nothing about you.
> > Take your meds and find a new church.
> I wish it were that simple, we moved here 3 years ago today (checks it's
> past midnight), we decided to go to a Saturday evening service at a
> church that we knew one family at (coincidencently they had been in our
> church in the UK, them moved to this area, we didn't realise how close
> until we started looking at maps). We got to know a lot of people who
> went to that service, we'd been attracted by the children's work, so
> unsurprisingly we got to know many people who had children similar ages
> to us. Then this last year, this service became a church plant, though
> of course we know a lot of people at the main church, particularly me,
> as I participated in women's bible studies and a quilt group. My husband
> has no interest in finding a new church, he doesn't recognise the harm
> people have done me, he sees it as me self pitying when I try to explain
> how things have harmed me. Even when we've been to the psychotherpist
> together and discussed this issue, he is in completely disagreement with
> even temporarily finding a new church. I don't think it would be fair
> for anyone for me to go back to the old church, so I'd be left looking
> for a church just me and the baby, which isn't a good situation to be
> in, if it came to me deciding a really just needed a temporary break,
> I'd be better off sat at home listening to a podcast of a church sermon.
> Cheers
> Anne
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Posted by Kate XXXXXX on October 2, 2009, 7:27 am
Anne Rogers wrote:
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> Well, I met with my pastor, my husband and a friend on Wednesday
> morning, apparently all my problems are due to my weak faith and that I
> repeat untruths to myself (curious as I rarely talk my self down and
> it's never been to do with faith). I am so hurt and there is literally
> no one to support me, my friends are the members of the church (remember
> we'll have lived in the US 3 years tomorrow).
Dozy lot. And selfish.
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> Last time I had postpartum depression I kind of compartmentalised and
> faith wasn't one of the necessary compartments, but I kept going through
> the motions and everything turned out ok in the end.
It will this time, if you are patient with yourself. This is a MEDICAL
problem, not a faith problem.
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> Now it's the completely opposite, I went to the pastor voluntarily to
> see if he could give me any help in not doing that this time and it's
> turned into my depression being non existance and my faith being weak,
> which is probably is as every time I meet with someone they tell me it
> is, keep telling me that and I'll believe it as truth, instead they tell
> me that I'm talking myself down. I rarely talk myself down, and if I do,
> it's along the lines of I'm fat (which is true), or I don't like my new
> haircut (also true).
No, he is WRONG.
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> Now I feel like I'm repeatedly being brought before a kangeroo court and
> being told untruths, with depression not even mentioned.
As far as the church is concerned, this is exactly right. Leave them to
it and get on with geeting well.
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> I've now decided not to take my meds, maybe that will prove a point,
> I've many sleepless nights to look forward to now.
NO!!! Not a good move! Not even safe.
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> I think I'd do better if I declared that I had no faith and never went
> back to this so called church. My last church were so helpful, the
> pastors wife was very ill with postpartum depression, a couple of years
> before me, so the pastor actually had a clue.
This is the right way forward. And true pastor would help without
judgement. You are ill, and the illness manifests in some very odd
ways, but if you have faith, it will re-emerge at the right time. Right
now they are dangerous to your health and well-being, and you need to
stay away.
Just my (free!) opinion. But I've seen friends go through it, and done
some of the journey myself.
--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
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Posted by DEM on October 2, 2009, 10:28 am
If you break your leg, God would expect you to go see
a doctor to get it fixed. With depression, talk therapy
can help a lot along with the meds. If you go off the
meds you're only going to set yourself back and hurt
YOU. I don't know where you live but counties, cities
usually have places where groups can meet and talk...
and they're free...they'll even go one-on-one with you.
Donna
in WA
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> Well, I met with my pastor, my husband and a friend on Wednesday morning,
> apparently all my problems are due to my weak faith and that I repeat
> untruths to myself (curious as I rarely talk my self down and it's never
> been to do with faith). I am so hurt and there is literally no one to
> support me, my friends are the members of the church (remember we'll have
> lived in the US 3 years tomorrow).
> Last time I had postpartum depression I kind of compartmentalised and
> faith wasn't one of the necessary compartments, but I kept going through
> the motions and everything turned out ok in the end.
> Now it's the completely opposite, I went to the pastor voluntarily to see
> if he could give me any help in not doing that this time and it's turned
> into my depression being non existance and my faith being weak, which is
> probably is as every time I meet with someone they tell me it is, keep
> telling me that and I'll believe it as truth, instead they tell me that
> I'm talking myself down. I rarely talk myself down, and if I do, it's
> along the lines of I'm fat (which is true), or I don't like my new haircut
> (also true).
> Now I feel like I'm repeatedly being brought before a kangeroo court and
> being told untruths, with depression not even mentioned.
> I've now decided not to take my meds, maybe that will prove a point, I've
> many sleepless nights to look forward to now.
> I think I'd do better if I declared that I had no faith and never went
> back to this so called church. My last church were so helpful, the pastors
> wife was very ill with postpartum depression, a couple of years before me,
> so the pastor actually had a clue.
> Anne
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Posted by Carissa on October 2, 2009, 12:08 pm
Maybe you could put in a call to your old pastor who was helpful. Your
faith seems so very important to you and it might be helpful to hear from
someone who both understands and knows about these things that your faith is
in fact not weak? People do not understand illnesses, and when they are
illness that effect the mind they are even less understanding, and much less
tollerant. Calling it weakness rather than what it really is, an illness
that can be helped in several different ways, including medications. And as
others have said it can be dangerous to stop suddenly, and not sure if you
are bf or not but if you are stopping suddenly may not be happy for baby
either. Anyhow, just wanted to add in the suggestion of calling old pastor,
not repeat what everyone else has already said. Tho I will add I too went
through this with two of my children. You are not alone, even thought it
certainly must feel that way right now.
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> Well, I met with my pastor, my husband and a friend on Wednesday morning,
> apparently all my problems are due to my weak faith and that I repeat
> untruths to myself (curious as I rarely talk my self down and it's never
> been to do with faith). I am so hurt and there is literally no one to
> support me, my friends are the members of the church (remember we'll have
> lived in the US 3 years tomorrow).
> Last time I had postpartum depression I kind of compartmentalised and
> faith wasn't one of the necessary compartments, but I kept going through
> the motions and everything turned out ok in the end.
> Now it's the completely opposite, I went to the pastor voluntarily to see
> if he could give me any help in not doing that this time and it's turned
> into my depression being non existance and my faith being weak, which is
> probably is as every time I meet with someone they tell me it is, keep
> telling me that and I'll believe it as truth, instead they tell me that
> I'm talking myself down. I rarely talk myself down, and if I do, it's
> along the lines of I'm fat (which is true), or I don't like my new haircut
> (also true).
> Now I feel like I'm repeatedly being brought before a kangeroo court and
> being told untruths, with depression not even mentioned.
> I've now decided not to take my meds, maybe that will prove a point, I've
> many sleepless nights to look forward to now.
> I think I'd do better if I declared that I had no faith and never went
> back to this so called church. My last church were so helpful, the pastors
> wife was very ill with postpartum depression, a couple of years before me,
> so the pastor actually had a clue.
> Anne
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>> to people who obviously care nothing about you.
>> Take your meds and find a new church.
> I wish it were that simple, we moved here 3 years ago today (checks it's
> past midnight), we decided to go to a Saturday evening service at a church
> that we knew one family at (coincidencently they had been in our church in
> the UK, them moved to this area, we didn't realise how close until we
> started looking at maps). We got to know a lot of people who went to that
> service, we'd been attracted by the children's work, so unsurprisingly we
> got to know many people who had children similar ages to us. Then this
> last year, this service became a church plant, though of course we know a
> lot of people at the main church, particularly me, as I participated in
> women's bible studies and a quilt group. My husband has no interest in
> finding a new church, he doesn't recognise the harm people have done me,
> he sees it as me self pitying when I try to explain how things have harmed
> me. Even when we've been to the psychotherpist together and discussed this
> issue, he is in completely disagreement with even temporarily finding a
> new church. I don't think it would be fair for anyone for me to go back to
> the old church, so I'd be left looking for a church just me and the baby,
> which isn't a good situation to be in, if it came to me deciding a really
> just needed a temporary break, I'd be better off sat at home listening to
> a podcast of a church sermon.
> Cheers
> Anne