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Posted by NightMist on October 16, 2009, 5:45 am
Sure.
There are some newsreaders, and programs that read news, that will
strip out anything that comes before a " : " in the topic line.
It is a sloppy way for the programers to make sure that you don't wind
up with a dozen threads that all start out re:re:re:re: ad infinitum
when people reply to a message.
So when a thread is titled OT: whatever, invariably someone's
newsreader will strip off the OT:, and make it into a seperate thread.
So it will look like the OP did not properly title their post.
Some versions of OE do this.
That is why I do not use a colon in the topic line when I write an OT
post.
NightMist
wrote:
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>I think, perhaps, all that is needed is that we are all *very* careful
>to label OT messages as such. If this is clearly done, so that anyone
>who only wants to read about quilting can do so, there shouldn't be a
>problem. This is a hugely diverse group and no one 'thing' can suit
>everyone.
>I would not want to have to find another newsgroup. For some time I
>belonged to a quilting only group and you would not believe how many
>arguments there were about what constituted a quilting topic - how far
>it could be extended. I didn't last more than a couple of years there!
>There are, actually, many on topic posts that with the best will in the
>world cannot be interesting to me: there are many purely American pieces
>of information - like local shows etc. So, I don't pursue those
>threads. Let's not get this all too deep and serious - there's enough
>of that around us all.
>Just *mark* OT's OT.
>(Someone said something recently about the position of the colon or
>something in the topic title - didn't register with me, but maybe it
>warrants repeating if it is relevant here?)
>.
>>Can we get this group back to quilting, please? For mental, emotional,
>>and other than quilting help, recipe searches, & other not quilting
>>topics go to Face Book or an appropriate newsgroup or email for help.
>>Most days there are a few quilting messages but most are OT.
>>Thanks.
>--
>Best Regards
>pat on the hill
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Legolas is my house elf
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Posted by Patti on October 16, 2009, 6:16 am
Thanks very much Nightmist.
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>Sure.
>There are some newsreaders, and programs that read news, that will
>strip out anything that comes before a " : " in the topic line.
>It is a sloppy way for the programers to make sure that you don't wind
>up with a dozen threads that all start out re:re:re:re: ad infinitum
>when people reply to a message.
>So when a thread is titled OT: whatever, invariably someone's
>newsreader will strip off the OT:, and make it into a seperate thread.
>So it will look like the OP did not properly title their post.
>Some versions of OE do this.
>That is why I do not use a colon in the topic line when I write an OT
>post.
>NightMist
--
Best Regards
pat on the hill
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Posted by off kilter quilter@somwherequi on October 16, 2009, 8:26 am
so, here's a somewhat relevant question.....when I post an OT message,
and yes, there are more of those from me recently since I haven't
actually been able to quilt for a while.....it seems that someone
responding to it will, invariably change the topic so that there is no
OT label anymore.....then further down, somebody else will change it
back to an OT thread.
My question is very simple....if the original poster has determined it
is OT (more stuff, less fabrics/quilting), why change it when you are
responding to it?? Sometimes, the changed topic shows up as a new
topic for me (still trying to figure this one out), when it is really
part of an OT thread.....am I making any sense, or is this clear as
mud?? The tangent question is why anyone would take it upon
themselves to change the topic in any form if they aren't the original
poster of the message.....
Just curious.....but, to get back to the core of this...really, some
people need to vent and have no other means of doing so (or at least
feel they have no other means of doing so). If it is someone I know,
I will read their messages and decide for myself if I will continue to
read updates....regardless of being OT or not. When the messages
start getting really kooky (as in recent cases), I will continue to
keep the poster in my thoughts, but I don't continue to read their
messages or any responses posted to them.
We were given, as human beings, free will....the right to
choose.....choose not to read the OT posts, but if you do and you
complain about it, make sure that YOU haven't posted any OT messages
as well....goes back to that people in glass houses thing.
Larisa, who likes the diversity, and specifically for MaryD, is hoping
that the jobs you mentioned (OT post) are progressing and that you get
to move to where you want to
P.S. Have you noticed that this post, regarding OT posts, is getting
more activity in the last 24 hours than any other post, specifically
the ON topic ones???
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Posted by Dr. Zachary Smith on October 16, 2009, 8:52 am
On Oct 16, 8:26=A0am, "off kilter quil...@somwherequiet.net"
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> The tangent question is why anyone would take it upon
> themselves to change the topic in any form if they aren't the original
> poster of the message.....
Hi Larisa,
One possible reason is that once a thread has gone so far astray from
it's original topic, the OP has dropped out of the discussion, and for
whatever reason, is no longer around to change the topic. When the
thread is very active, yet really no longer pertains to the original
topic, a change may seem/be appropriate. I'm sure many folks have
seen a topic listed, gone to the end of the thread, and found that
people are discussing recipes for granny's chewy fudge muffins instead
of paper-piecing Y seams. I often find myself interested in the
"evolved" topic, yet have trouble keeping track because the title
topic is totally unrelated. I've also found myself at both ends of
the question (OP & changer).
Ahhh... Usenet! :-) (But it's not just Usenet either; I belong to a
few web-based quilting sites that function basically the same way as
RCTQ - they become small communities of people who get familiar, and
read more like [as mentioned early on by Cindy S.] social quilting
bees.)
Doc
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Posted by Polly Esther on October 16, 2009, 8:54 am
Guilty as charged, Larisa. I'm pretty sure it's because of how my family
get-togethers go. If there are 4 or more of us gathered together, there
will be at least 3 topics going on at the same time.
My news reader (bouncing through Germany, no less) manages to keep the
messages in groups somehow. I didn't realize that some would grab part and
put it off by itself.
I guess we're worse than herding cats - which, of course is quite simple
if you have a can of tuna and an electric can opener. Polly
"off kilter wrote...
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> so, here's a somewhat relevant question.....when I post an OT message,
> and yes, there are more of those from me recently since I haven't
> actually been able to quilt for a while.....it seems that someone
> responding to it will, invariably change the topic so that there is no
> OT label anymore.....then further down, somebody else will change it
> back to an OT thread.
> My question is very simple....if the original poster has determined it
> is OT (more stuff, less fabrics/quilting), why change it when you are
> responding to it?? Sometimes, the changed topic shows up as a new
> topic for me (still trying to figure this one out), when it is really
> part of an OT thread.....am I making any sense, or is this clear as
> mud?? The tangent question is why anyone would take it upon
> themselves to change the topic in any form if they aren't the original
> poster of the message.....
> Just curious.....but, to get back to the core of this...really, some
> people need to vent and have no other means of doing so (or at least
> feel they have no other means of doing so). If it is someone I know,
> I will read their messages and decide for myself if I will continue to
> read updates....regardless of being OT or not. When the messages
> start getting really kooky (as in recent cases), I will continue to
> keep the poster in my thoughts, but I don't continue to read their
> messages or any responses posted to them.
> We were given, as human beings, free will....the right to
> choose.....choose not to read the OT posts, but if you do and you
> complain about it, make sure that YOU haven't posted any OT messages
> as well....goes back to that people in glass houses thing.
> Larisa, who likes the diversity, and specifically for MaryD, is hoping
> that the jobs you mentioned (OT post) are progressing and that you get
> to move to where you want to
> P.S. Have you noticed that this post, regarding OT posts, is getting
> more activity in the last 24 hours than any other post, specifically
> the ON topic ones???
>
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>to label OT messages as such. If this is clearly done, so that anyone
>who only wants to read about quilting can do so, there shouldn't be a
>problem. This is a hugely diverse group and no one 'thing' can suit
>everyone.
>I would not want to have to find another newsgroup. For some time I
>belonged to a quilting only group and you would not believe how many
>arguments there were about what constituted a quilting topic - how far
>it could be extended. I didn't last more than a couple of years there!
>There are, actually, many on topic posts that with the best will in the
>world cannot be interesting to me: there are many purely American pieces
>of information - like local shows etc. So, I don't pursue those
>threads. Let's not get this all too deep and serious - there's enough
>of that around us all.
>Just *mark* OT's OT.
>(Someone said something recently about the position of the colon or
>something in the topic title - didn't register with me, but maybe it
>warrants repeating if it is relevant here?)
>.
>>Can we get this group back to quilting, please? For mental, emotional,
>>and other than quilting help, recipe searches, & other not quilting
>>topics go to Face Book or an appropriate newsgroup or email for help.
>>Most days there are a few quilting messages but most are OT.
>>Thanks.
>--
>Best Regards
>pat on the hill