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Posted by on May 22, 2009, 9:10 am
I see a lot of these kinds of posts on this group (and one sees them
on any kind of craft/hobby discussion group) - that's ok; I'm not
ranting about any specific post/thread in particular...
It's just that (and I know I'm likely preaching to a choir here, but
it seems to me to be a sermon worth revisiting from time to time...)
if there's anything a lifetime of crafting & craftsmanship has taught
me, it's the tired old worn out (like me) adage that, "You get what
you pay for." Bargains aren't always bargains, and when something
looks or sounds too good to be true or miss out on, IMHOAE, it
probably/usually is.
Just an example - in just the past couple days there was a thread
thread (thread about thread) about some deal on thread, followed by
several comments by people who said that they had mucho problems with
said brand of thread messing up/snarling/fuzzing/breaking/what-have-
you... What good is getting a boatload of thread at a 75% discount if
you wind up throwing the whole batch out or (worse?) donating it to
(dumping it on) some other poor unsuspecting slob? Good intentions
aside, sometimes it's questionable if one is *really* doing a service
by doing so. Even most charities I know of throw away "junk" donated
to them; some may politely accept it to spare feelings/not seem
ungrateful and THEN toss it, but it's not worth their hassling with it
either...
I know that DW absolutely refuses to buy fabric at a particular well-
known international craft superstore chain, (unless she absolutely
cannot get what she wants *anyplace* else, local or online) because
the thread count is less and the material is inevitably of poorer
quality and more difficult to work with than what she pays more for at
a(ny) local dedicated "quilt shop".
No matter what kind of project I'm working on, for myself or for
others, I have learned many times over that investing in the best
quality tools & materials is SO worth it not only to the finished
product, but to working with them as well. It's just no fun, and I
can't see the point in, being frustrated at every step and turn along
the way. ESPECIALLY with tools/hard goods, because they are forever,
and one has to use them over and over. There's little worse than
trying to work with a scissors, or machine, or whatever, that you just
can't stand - no matter the reason. I'm sure the "professionals" out
there are in total agreement - we've all been there.
If the retort is economics, then I say wait until they change, or
scale down the project, or find another one within means, or if your
self-respect can handle it, ask for a little help - GOOD help.
Maybe... Hopefully... the newbs/novices may get something from this.
Okay, I guess I'm done now. I feel like there's something I'm
forgetting, but that's not unusual for me - I'll blame it on a senior
moment... Have at, or chew me up, or whatever...
Doc Smith
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Posted by amy in CNY on May 22, 2009, 9:13 am
Bravo! Well Said! }}}
i totally agree!
amy in CNY
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Posted by teleflora on May 22, 2009, 12:28 pm
You've never seen these kinds of posts from Nann, thank you very much.
And we really, REALLY don't need a sermon from you.
Thanks anyway,
Cindy
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>I see a lot of these kinds of posts on this group (and one sees them
> on any kind of craft/hobby discussion group) - that's ok; I'm not
> ranting about any specific post/thread in particular...
> It's just that (and I know I'm likely preaching to a choir here, but
> it seems to me to be a sermon worth revisiting from time to time...)
> if there's anything a lifetime of crafting & craftsmanship has taught
> me, it's the tired old worn out (like me) adage that, "You get what
> you pay for." Bargains aren't always bargains, and when something
> looks or sounds too good to be true or miss out on, IMHOAE, it
> probably/usually is.
> Just an example - in just the past couple days there was a thread
> thread (thread about thread) about some deal on thread, followed by
> several comments by people who said that they had mucho problems with
> said brand of thread messing up/snarling/fuzzing/breaking/what-have-
> you... What good is getting a boatload of thread at a 75% discount if
> you wind up throwing the whole batch out or (worse?) donating it to
> (dumping it on) some other poor unsuspecting slob? Good intentions
> aside, sometimes it's questionable if one is *really* doing a service
> by doing so. Even most charities I know of throw away "junk" donated
> to them; some may politely accept it to spare feelings/not seem
> ungrateful and THEN toss it, but it's not worth their hassling with it
> either...
> I know that DW absolutely refuses to buy fabric at a particular well-
> known international craft superstore chain, (unless she absolutely
> cannot get what she wants *anyplace* else, local or online) because
> the thread count is less and the material is inevitably of poorer
> quality and more difficult to work with than what she pays more for at
> a(ny) local dedicated "quilt shop".
> No matter what kind of project I'm working on, for myself or for
> others, I have learned many times over that investing in the best
> quality tools & materials is SO worth it not only to the finished
> product, but to working with them as well. It's just no fun, and I
> can't see the point in, being frustrated at every step and turn along
> the way. ESPECIALLY with tools/hard goods, because they are forever,
> and one has to use them over and over. There's little worse than
> trying to work with a scissors, or machine, or whatever, that you just
> can't stand - no matter the reason. I'm sure the "professionals" out
> there are in total agreement - we've all been there.
> If the retort is economics, then I say wait until they change, or
> scale down the project, or find another one within means, or if your
> self-respect can handle it, ask for a little help - GOOD help.
> Maybe... Hopefully... the newbs/novices may get something from this.
> Okay, I guess I'm done now. I feel like there's something I'm
> forgetting, but that's not unusual for me - I'll blame it on a senior
> moment... Have at, or chew me up, or whatever...
> Doc Smith
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Posted by on May 22, 2009, 4:59 pm
The only thread I made direct reference to had nothing to do with
Nann, so I don't know what you're talking about.
And I really, REALLY don't need to get dragged into exchanging
personal attacks, thank you very much.
Doc
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> You've never seen these kinds of posts from Nann, thank you very much.
> And we really, REALLY don't need a sermon from you.
> Thanks anyway,
> Cindy
> >I see a lot of these kinds of posts on this group (and one sees them
> > on any kind of craft/hobby discussion group) - that's ok; I'm not
> > ranting about any specific post/thread in particular...
> > It's just that (and I know I'm likely preaching to a choir here, but
> > it seems to me to be a sermon worth revisiting from time to time...)
> > if there's anything a lifetime of crafting & craftsmanship has taught
> > me, it's the tired old worn out (like me) adage that, "You get what
> > you pay for." =A0Bargains aren't always bargains, and when something
> > looks or sounds too good to be true or miss out on, IMHOAE, it
> > probably/usually is.
> > Just an example - in just the past couple days there was a thread
> > thread (thread about thread) about some deal on thread, followed by
> > several comments by people who said that they had mucho problems with
> > said brand of thread messing up/snarling/fuzzing/breaking/what-have-
> > you... =A0What good is getting a boatload of thread at a 75% discount i=
f
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> > you wind up throwing the whole batch out or (worse?) donating it to
> > (dumping it on) some other poor unsuspecting slob? =A0Good intentions
> > aside, sometimes it's questionable if one is *really* doing a service
> > by doing so. =A0Even most charities I know of throw away "junk" donated
> > to them; some may politely accept it to spare feelings/not seem
> > ungrateful and THEN toss it, but it's not worth their hassling with it
> > either...
> > I know that DW absolutely refuses to buy fabric at a particular well-
> > known international craft superstore chain, (unless she absolutely
> > cannot get what she wants *anyplace* else, local or online) because
> > the thread count is less and the material is inevitably of poorer
> > quality and more difficult to work with than what she pays more for at
> > a(ny) local dedicated "quilt shop".
> > No matter what kind of project I'm working on, for myself or for
> > others, I have learned many times over that investing in the best
> > quality tools & materials is SO worth it not only to the finished
> > product, but to working with them as well. =A0It's just no fun, and I
> > can't see the point in, being frustrated at every step and turn along
> > the way. =A0ESPECIALLY with tools/hard goods, because they are forever,
> > and one has to use them over and over. =A0There's little worse than
> > trying to work with a scissors, or machine, or whatever, that you just
> > can't stand - no matter the reason. =A0I'm sure the "professionals" out
> > there are in total agreement - we've all been there.
> > If the retort is economics, then I say wait until they change, or
> > scale down the project, or find another one within means, or if your
> > self-respect can handle it, ask for a little help - GOOD help.
> > Maybe... Hopefully... the newbs/novices may get something from this.
> > Okay, I guess I'm done now. =A0I feel like there's something I'm
> > forgetting, but that's not unusual for me - I'll blame it on a senior
> > moment... =A0Have at, or chew me up, or whatever...
> > Doc Smith- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
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Posted by onetexsun on May 22, 2009, 12:54 pm
Doc, you've hit on much truth. No question, you get what you pay for.
Name brands are more expensive for a reason. But when some online
store has Fossil Ferns or Hoffman Batiks for $5 a yard, I want to know
about it.
Sunny
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> on any kind of craft/hobby discussion group) - that's ok; I'm not
> ranting about any specific post/thread in particular...
> It's just that (and I know I'm likely preaching to a choir here, but
> it seems to me to be a sermon worth revisiting from time to time...)
> if there's anything a lifetime of crafting & craftsmanship has taught
> me, it's the tired old worn out (like me) adage that, "You get what
> you pay for." Bargains aren't always bargains, and when something
> looks or sounds too good to be true or miss out on, IMHOAE, it
> probably/usually is.
> Just an example - in just the past couple days there was a thread
> thread (thread about thread) about some deal on thread, followed by
> several comments by people who said that they had mucho problems with
> said brand of thread messing up/snarling/fuzzing/breaking/what-have-
> you... What good is getting a boatload of thread at a 75% discount if
> you wind up throwing the whole batch out or (worse?) donating it to
> (dumping it on) some other poor unsuspecting slob? Good intentions
> aside, sometimes it's questionable if one is *really* doing a service
> by doing so. Even most charities I know of throw away "junk" donated
> to them; some may politely accept it to spare feelings/not seem
> ungrateful and THEN toss it, but it's not worth their hassling with it
> either...
> I know that DW absolutely refuses to buy fabric at a particular well-
> known international craft superstore chain, (unless she absolutely
> cannot get what she wants *anyplace* else, local or online) because
> the thread count is less and the material is inevitably of poorer
> quality and more difficult to work with than what she pays more for at
> a(ny) local dedicated "quilt shop".
> No matter what kind of project I'm working on, for myself or for
> others, I have learned many times over that investing in the best
> quality tools & materials is SO worth it not only to the finished
> product, but to working with them as well. It's just no fun, and I
> can't see the point in, being frustrated at every step and turn along
> the way. ESPECIALLY with tools/hard goods, because they are forever,
> and one has to use them over and over. There's little worse than
> trying to work with a scissors, or machine, or whatever, that you just
> can't stand - no matter the reason. I'm sure the "professionals" out
> there are in total agreement - we've all been there.
> If the retort is economics, then I say wait until they change, or
> scale down the project, or find another one within means, or if your
> self-respect can handle it, ask for a little help - GOOD help.
> Maybe... Hopefully... the newbs/novices may get something from this.
> Okay, I guess I'm done now. I feel like there's something I'm
> forgetting, but that's not unusual for me - I'll blame it on a senior
> moment... Have at, or chew me up, or whatever...
> Doc Smith