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Posted by Dr. Zachary Smith on July 13, 2009, 9:18 am
With the recent loss of my companion/therapy dog, I'm on quite the
emotional rollercoaster today. DW has gone back to work after a
week's vacation and the house is the emptiest it's ever been, so I'm
trying to keep my mind off things and spirits up any way I can (hence
the bad jokes in other threads).
Anyhoo, I've recently been working on several quilting design projects
employing velvet, and as neither of us have ever tried anything like
this before, (and our hearts aren't really in it yet, but we're
forcing ourselves) we're beginning with a small learning project - a
24" sq. carpenter's wheel/dutch rose in two shades of red on a black
background (it may wind up as either a wall-hanging or pillow cover) -
before plowing into the larger projects. Having never worked with
velvet before, and as this is quite different than a crazy quilt, a
lot of questions are arising that we could use some advice/suggestions
on...
The velvet is all non-stretch 100% polyester. We'll be using a
Bernina artista 180 w/ walking foot. We've acquired a velvaboard for
pressing, and found a technique for avoiding hoop burn when
embroidering. Since velvet seems prone to fraying, we're wondering
about seam allowances, fraying treatment options, needle types &
sizes, thread types & weights (should we use polyester thread or
something else), stitches, cutting suggestions (because of the nap)
and of course all the questions we *don't* even know to ask...
Thanks (for everything)
Doc & Mrs. Doc
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Posted by Bobbie Sews More on July 13, 2009, 10:54 am
Once upon a time I was making a velvet bridesmaid dress and ended up sewing
most of it and overcasting by hand. Other than that, I haven't made
anything else with velvet and don't have any plans to do so. Good luck!
Barbara in SC
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Posted by Roberta on July 13, 2009, 10:57 am
Boy oh boy, talk about jumping right into the deep end! Since it's
poly fabric, you could go ahead and use (shudder) poly thread.
As for the nap, IMO just let the chips fall where they may. You've got
lots of pieces in that block, and you will have enough other things to
make you crazy without worrying about nap. Anyway, it might add a nice
surface motion.
Poly fabric is meant to be wrinkle free, pretty much, which means it
doesn't take a crisp press. You might also want larger seam allowances
-it would be a pity if the seams started to fall apart after all that
work. I'd go for dressmaking allowances of at least 5/8". Hmm
-considering the bulk of velvet, maybe there's some way you could
shave off the pile from part of the seam allowance, short of trimming
with nail scissors. Maybe try a few judicious dots of water-soluble
glue to keep the seams where they belong.
Even with the walking foot, you might want to hand baste a couple of
stitches on each side of matching seams. Velvet has a mind of its own.
Good luck! You're a braver man than I am!
Roberta in D, not a man at all if you come right down to it
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:18:17 -0700 (PDT), "Dr. Zachary Smith"
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>With the recent loss of my companion/therapy dog, I'm on quite the
>emotional rollercoaster today. DW has gone back to work after a
>week's vacation and the house is the emptiest it's ever been, so I'm
>trying to keep my mind off things and spirits up any way I can (hence
>the bad jokes in other threads).
>Anyhoo, I've recently been working on several quilting design projects
>employing velvet, and as neither of us have ever tried anything like
>this before, (and our hearts aren't really in it yet, but we're
>forcing ourselves) we're beginning with a small learning project - a
>24" sq. carpenter's wheel/dutch rose in two shades of red on a black
>background (it may wind up as either a wall-hanging or pillow cover) -
>before plowing into the larger projects. Having never worked with
>velvet before, and as this is quite different than a crazy quilt, a
>lot of questions are arising that we could use some advice/suggestions
>on...
>The velvet is all non-stretch 100% polyester. We'll be using a
>Bernina artista 180 w/ walking foot. We've acquired a velvaboard for
>pressing, and found a technique for avoiding hoop burn when
>embroidering. Since velvet seems prone to fraying, we're wondering
>about seam allowances, fraying treatment options, needle types &
>sizes, thread types & weights (should we use polyester thread or
>something else), stitches, cutting suggestions (because of the nap)
>and of course all the questions we *don't* even know to ask...
>Thanks (for everything)
>Doc & Mrs. Doc
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Posted by Dr. Zachary Smith on July 13, 2009, 1:31 pm
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> Boy oh boy, talk about jumping right into the deep end! Since it's
> poly fabric, you could go ahead and use (shudder) poly thread.
NO FAIR! You can't make comments like those to a non-quilter and a
relative newb without explaining them. Why are we jumping into the
deep end? DW has done quite a few cotton quilts, some totes,
hangings, and just finished a dupion I designed for a nephew. We
thought this starter project made much more sense than jumping right
into the six color velvet lap quilt, the double lap quilt, or the
queen size, and what's the deal with poly thread? Aren't you supposed
to use the same kind of thread as fabric?
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> As for the nap, IMO just let the chips fall where they may. You've got
> lots of pieces in that block, and you will have enough other things to
> make you crazy without worrying about nap. Anyway, it might add a nice
> surface motion.
> Poly fabric is meant to be wrinkle free, pretty much, which means it
> doesn't take a crisp press. You might also want larger seam allowances
> -it would be a pity if the seams started to fall apart after all that
> work. I'd go for dressmaking allowances of at least 5/8". Hmm
> -considering the bulk of velvet, maybe there's some way you could
> shave off the pile from part of the seam allowance, short of trimming
> with nail scissors. Maybe try a few judicious dots of water-soluble
> glue to keep the seams where they belong.
> Even with the walking foot, you might want to hand baste a couple of
> stitches on each side of matching seams. Velvet has a mind of its own.
> Good luck! You're a braver man than I am!
No guts - no glory (or so they say) Chance favors the prepared mind
(or so Louis Pasteur said)
Dr. Smith ("Oh, the pain... THE PAIN..." I said)
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> Roberta in D, not a man at all if you come right down to it
> On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:18:17 -0700 (PDT), "Dr. Zachary Smith"
> >With the recent loss of my companion/therapy dog, I'm on quite the
> >emotional rollercoaster today. =A0DW has gone back to work after a
> >week's vacation and the house is the emptiest it's ever been, so I'm
> >trying to keep my mind off things and spirits up any way I can (hence
> >the bad jokes in other threads).
> >Anyhoo, I've recently been working on several quilting design projects
> >employing velvet, and as neither of us have ever tried anything like
> >this before, (and our hearts aren't really in it yet, but we're
> >forcing ourselves) we're beginning with a small learning project - a
> >24" sq. carpenter's wheel/dutch rose in two shades of red on a black
> >background (it may wind up as either a wall-hanging or pillow cover) -
> >before plowing into the larger projects. =A0Having never worked with
> >velvet before, and as this is quite different than a crazy quilt, a
> >lot of questions are arising that we could use some advice/suggestions
> >on...
> >The velvet is all non-stretch 100% polyester. =A0We'll be using a
> >Bernina artista 180 w/ walking foot. =A0We've acquired a velvaboard for
> >pressing, and found a technique for avoiding hoop burn when
> >embroidering. =A0Since velvet seems prone to fraying, we're wondering
> >about seam allowances, fraying treatment options, needle types &
> >sizes, thread types & weights (should we use polyester thread or
> >something else), stitches, cutting suggestions (because of the nap)
> >and of course all the questions we *don't* even know to ask...
> >Thanks (for everything)
> >Doc & Mrs. Doc- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
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Posted by Roberta on July 14, 2009, 8:43 am
Well, I did say that poly fabric could use poly thread! I purely hate
the stuff myself, it has such a scrinchy feel. Kind of like chalk
scraping a blackboard, just sets my teeth on edge. Pardon the
prejudice.
I used to love velvet, even made a dress for myself (back in the Dark
Ages when I was thin) that was a simple A-line with a magnificent rose
embroidered in corsage position. Those were the days before Quilting,
when I was not consumed with obsession and had time to do fiddly hand
embroidery. I mention this to establish my creds as an experienced
seamstress, one who even earned a living for a while sewing in a
costume shop. (We made lots of padded doublets out of upholstery
velvet :-p)
So when Quilting came along and took over my life, I had no 2nd
thoughts about making a velvet and corduroy quilt, large double-bed
size. Bought remnants, all cotton, deep luscious colors. It was a log
cabin, copied from an old one I saw in a show. so far, so good. Then I
discovered there was no way I could quilt it (we're still talking a
long time ago, and I lived in Denmark where nobody had ever heard of a
long-arm machine.) So it was tied. No batting, because it took serious
muscle to even lift as it was. And then nobody would sleep under it
-too heavy. About like having a dinosaur camped on your chest. And
even without washing, my lovely straight quarter-inch seams started to
pull apart. And we haven't even mentioned the ankle-deep layer of lint
it produced during construction.
I freely admit it would have been smarter to do as you are about to
do, start with a small project. But I thought I knew from velvet,
based on previous dressmaking.
I'm sure you will have fun with this, since you are starting more
wisely than I did. (But make sure your dust buster is charged up. And
you might want to lay in a few extra machine needles too.)
Roberta in D
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:31:05 -0700 (PDT), "Dr. Zachary Smith"
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>> Boy oh boy, talk about jumping right into the deep end! Since it's
>> poly fabric, you could go ahead and use (shudder) poly thread.
>NO FAIR! You can't make comments like those to a non-quilter and a
>relative newb without explaining them. Why are we jumping into the
>deep end? DW has done quite a few cotton quilts, some totes,
>hangings, and just finished a dupion I designed for a nephew. We
>thought this starter project made much more sense than jumping right
>into the six color velvet lap quilt, the double lap quilt, or the
>queen size, and what's the deal with poly thread? Aren't you supposed
>to use the same kind of thread as fabric?
>> As for the nap, IMO just let the chips fall where they may. You've got
>> lots of pieces in that block, and you will have enough other things to
>> make you crazy without worrying about nap. Anyway, it might add a nice
>> surface motion.
>> Poly fabric is meant to be wrinkle free, pretty much, which means it
>> doesn't take a crisp press. You might also want larger seam allowances
>> -it would be a pity if the seams started to fall apart after all that
>> work. I'd go for dressmaking allowances of at least 5/8". Hmm
>> -considering the bulk of velvet, maybe there's some way you could
>> shave off the pile from part of the seam allowance, short of trimming
>> with nail scissors. Maybe try a few judicious dots of water-soluble
>> glue to keep the seams where they belong.
>> Even with the walking foot, you might want to hand baste a couple of
>> stitches on each side of matching seams. Velvet has a mind of its own.
>> Good luck! You're a braver man than I am!
>No guts - no glory (or so they say) Chance favors the prepared mind
>(or so Louis Pasteur said)
>Dr. Smith ("Oh, the pain... THE PAIN..." I said)
>> Roberta in D, not a man at all if you come right down to it
>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:18:17 -0700 (PDT), "Dr. Zachary Smith"
>> >With the recent loss of my companion/therapy dog, I'm on quite the
>> >emotional rollercoaster today. DW has gone back to work after a
>> >week's vacation and the house is the emptiest it's ever been, so I'm
>> >trying to keep my mind off things and spirits up any way I can (hence
>> >the bad jokes in other threads).
>> >Anyhoo, I've recently been working on several quilting design projects
>> >employing velvet, and as neither of us have ever tried anything like
>> >this before, (and our hearts aren't really in it yet, but we're
>> >forcing ourselves) we're beginning with a small learning project - a
>> >24" sq. carpenter's wheel/dutch rose in two shades of red on a black
>> >background (it may wind up as either a wall-hanging or pillow cover) -
>> >before plowing into the larger projects. Having never worked with
>> >velvet before, and as this is quite different than a crazy quilt, a
>> >lot of questions are arising that we could use some advice/suggestions
>> >on...
>> >The velvet is all non-stretch 100% polyester. We'll be using a
>> >Bernina artista 180 w/ walking foot. We've acquired a velvaboard for
>> >pressing, and found a technique for avoiding hoop burn when
>> >embroidering. Since velvet seems prone to fraying, we're wondering
>> >about seam allowances, fraying treatment options, needle types &
>> >sizes, thread types & weights (should we use polyester thread or
>> >something else), stitches, cutting suggestions (because of the nap)
>> >and of course all the questions we *don't* even know to ask...
>> >Thanks (for everything)
>> >Doc & Mrs. Doc- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
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>emotional rollercoaster today. DW has gone back to work after a
>week's vacation and the house is the emptiest it's ever been, so I'm
>trying to keep my mind off things and spirits up any way I can (hence
>the bad jokes in other threads).
>Anyhoo, I've recently been working on several quilting design projects
>employing velvet, and as neither of us have ever tried anything like
>this before, (and our hearts aren't really in it yet, but we're
>forcing ourselves) we're beginning with a small learning project - a
>24" sq. carpenter's wheel/dutch rose in two shades of red on a black
>background (it may wind up as either a wall-hanging or pillow cover) -
>before plowing into the larger projects. Having never worked with
>velvet before, and as this is quite different than a crazy quilt, a
>lot of questions are arising that we could use some advice/suggestions
>on...
>The velvet is all non-stretch 100% polyester. We'll be using a
>Bernina artista 180 w/ walking foot. We've acquired a velvaboard for
>pressing, and found a technique for avoiding hoop burn when
>embroidering. Since velvet seems prone to fraying, we're wondering
>about seam allowances, fraying treatment options, needle types &
>sizes, thread types & weights (should we use polyester thread or
>something else), stitches, cutting suggestions (because of the nap)
>and of course all the questions we *don't* even know to ask...
>Thanks (for everything)
>Doc & Mrs. Doc