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Posted by Karen, Queen of Squishies on September 24, 2009, 10:26 am
Does "size 8 perle cotton" mean it will take a size 8 needle?
Karen, Queen of Squishies
Posted by Pati, in Phx on September 24, 2009, 11:18 am
No. Sizing of thread and needles are different and not really related
to each other. Also different kinds of needles have different kinds
and shapes of eyes.
Can't remember right off which is size 8 perle cotton. But you
probably want an embroidery or crewel needle if applying to regular
type fabric. A blunt pointed tapestry needle is used when doing
counted thread work, or any work on a looser weave fabric.
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Tia Mary will probably have more ideas on this one......<G>
> Does "size 8 perle cotton" mean it will take a size 8 needle? > > > Karen, Queen of Squishies
OK -- this is likely to be more info that anyone is interested in but
what-the-hey -- I'm Irish and like to go on -- LOLOL! Size 8 perle
refers to the thickness of the fiber which is round and has a fairly
"hefty" diameter compared to regular floss. The most common are sizes
are 5, 8, 10 & 12 -- diameter of the fiber getting smaller as the number
goes up.
The *type* of needle you would need will depend on the fabric you
are stitching on. I have trouble remembering which *name* of needle
goes with which type of needlework but I'll use the names I *think* are
correct. EMBROIDERY needles usually have a sharp pointed end (it needs
to pierce the fabric which is usually tightly woven like quilting cotton
or muslin, etc.) and a longer eye to accommodate multiple strands (3 or
4 usually) of floss. CREWEL needles will have the sharp pointed end
(also to pierce the fabric) and a rounder eye to accommodate the heavier
wool, acrylic, metallic & specialty fibers or *lots* of strands of floss
that are used. As Pati said, TAPESTRY needles have a blunt, rounded end
with a longer, wider eye to accommodate the multiple strands of floss,
etc. used when stitching on needlepoint canvas, aida or other types of
more loosely woven needlework fabrics.
There are also needles made specifically for doing ribbon embroidery
-- this might be of interest to the crazy quilters who embellish their
finished projects. Compared to other needles, these needles are VERY
heavy with very large eyes to accommodate the width of the ribbon and
open a wider hole so that the ribbon doesn't fray as it is pulled
through the fabric. They also have a very sharp, pointed end to help
pierce the different fabrics used in ribbon embroidery.
ALL of these needles will have a larger diameter as the size number
gets smaller. I think they get shorter but I'm not sure about that..
For size 8 perle, try a size 22 needle -- crewel if you are working with
closely woven fabrics and a tapestry needle if you are working on
something like aida or needlepoint canvas. The aim is to use a needle
whose eye is large enough to comfortably accommodate your floss **AND**
open up a large enough hole in the fabric so that there is less "drag"
on the fiber as it is pulled through.
If you buy DMC needles, look at the package the needles come in. You
will see that there is a description of the needle and what it is
commonly used for. Look at the eye of the needle and see if it will
accommodate the perle cotton which is a very round fiber -- meaning a
rounder hole is better. You can use embroidery & crewel needles when
working on even weave needlework fabrics, you just have to be **very**
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careful not to pierce the threads of the fabric!! CiaoMeow >^;;^<
Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about
their whiskers!
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Posted by Patti on September 24, 2009, 4:49 pm
Most excellent tutorial Mary. Thank you so much. 'Going on' like this
is *very good*.
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>Karen, Queen of Squishies wrote: >> Does "size 8 perle cotton" mean it will take a size 8 needle? >> Karen, Queen of Squishies > OK -- this is likely to be more info that anyone is interested in but >what-the-hey -- I'm Irish and like to go on -- LOLOL! Size 8 perle >refers to the thickness of the fiber which is round and has a fairly >"hefty" diameter compared to regular floss. The most common are sizes >are 5, 8, 10 & 12 -- diameter of the fiber getting smaller as the >number goes up. > The *type* of needle you would need will depend on the fabric you >are stitching on. I have trouble remembering which *name* of needle >goes with which type of needlework but I'll use the names I *think* are >correct. EMBROIDERY needles usually have a sharp pointed end (it needs >to pierce the fabric which is usually tightly woven like quilting >cotton or muslin, etc.) and a longer eye to accommodate multiple >strands (3 or 4 usually) of floss. CREWEL needles will have the sharp >pointed end (also to pierce the fabric) and a rounder eye to >accommodate the heavier wool, acrylic, metallic & specialty fibers or >*lots* of strands of floss that are used. As Pati said, TAPESTRY >needles have a blunt, rounded end with a longer, wider eye to >accommodate the multiple strands of floss, etc. used when stitching on >needlepoint canvas, aida or other types of more loosely woven needlework
> There are also needles made specifically for doing ribbon embroidery >-- this might be of interest to the crazy quilters who embellish their >finished projects. Compared to other needles, these needles are VERY >heavy with very large eyes to accommodate the width of the ribbon and >open a wider hole so that the ribbon doesn't fray as it is pulled >through the fabric. They also have a very sharp, pointed end to help >pierce the different fabrics used in ribbon embroidery. > ALL of these needles will have a larger diameter as the size number >gets smaller. I think they get shorter but I'm not sure about that.. >For size 8 perle, try a size 22 needle -- crewel if you are working >with closely woven fabrics and a tapestry needle if you are working on >something like aida or needlepoint canvas. The aim is to use a needle >whose eye is large enough to comfortably accommodate your floss **AND** >up a large enough hole in the fabric so that there is less "drag" on >the fiber as it is pulled through. > If you buy DMC needles, look at the package the needles come in. You >will see that there is a description of the needle and what it is >commonly used for. Look at the eye of the needle and see if it will >accommodate the perle cotton which is a very round fiber -- meaning a >rounder hole is better. You can use embroidery & crewel needles when >working on even weave needlework fabrics, you just have to be **very** >careful not to pierce the threads of the fabric!! CiaoMeow >^;;^< >PAX, Tia Mary >^;;^< (RCTQ Queen of Kitties) >Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about >their whiskers! >Visit my Photo albums at http://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary
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pat on the hill
Posted by Karen, Queen of Squishies on September 24, 2009, 5:31 pm
> Karen, Queen of Squishies wrote: >> Does "size 8 perle cotton" mean it will take a size 8 needle? >> Karen, Queen of Squishies > > OK -- this is likely to be more info that anyone is interested in but > what-the-hey -- I'm Irish and like to go on -- LOLOL! Size 8 perle
That is just the kind of instruction I needed! Thank you! I am
quilting with size 8 perle cotton to get a particular look. So if I
read this right, I will look for a crewel needle, size 22. Thanks again!
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