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Posted by Anne Rogers on January 16, 2008, 2:02 am
I've had a new machine since the beginning of the December, so not long,
I've been very happy with piecing, some machine embroidery I've tried
and the quilting of the first two quilts, which were both small and
didn't have very complex quilting, one everything free motion was a
gradual curve going over no seams, 2nd was quilted with a spiders web,
did cross seams and appeared to be fine. The third was where things
started to go wrong, but I assumed it was the batting, as I was trying a
fusible for the first time, the skipping would happen as I crossed a
seam and the thread would snap. All of those were small, now I'm working
on a 70"*70" top which will get borders added to be a queen size. I made
a test sandwich and everything appeared fine, but on to the big quilt
and it's a disaster, I don't think I'm moving too slow or two fast as
it's find until I get to the seam, the way it then snaps is making me
wonder if somehow hitting the seam makes something unhappy and the top
tension suddenly tightens and then it snaps.
I think it's a going to the shop job, as I think I've tried everything,
I tried different sizes of needle, quilting needles rather than sharps,
tried the thread on different spool holders in case the snag was at that
end. I wondered if the foot was responding badly to the height of a
seam, but played with all the settings there to no avail.
I'm going to have to drag the quilt in with me as unless I make a small
block of the same fabrics I can't duplicate the problem, it's fine on a
regular sandwich. I'll have at least one kid with me and if the local
schools are running late again, his preschool is cancelled, even though
them running late makes them start at the same time.
I had hoped to make inroads on this quilt today, I've done some QITD
that I decided was neccessary, I think I have 2 "blocks" where I did
manage to get through and lots of other bits I need to unpick. I'm
presuming they'll have to send it away, which means a week!
Cheers
Anne
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Posted by Roberta Zollner on January 16, 2008, 9:49 am
Sigh. Sometimes they just won't behave, for no apparent reason. Different
machines can be finicky about different threads for free motion. Even
threads they tolerate in regular stitching. It does play havoc with tension
when you pull the work in all directions. And lots of seams do not help at
all. This might be where you need to go very slowly, one stitch at a time,
slow enough to react and not move the quilt if it skips a stitch, so it can
try again in the same spot.
Roberta in D
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> I've had a new machine since the beginning of the December, so not long,
> I've been very happy with piecing, some machine embroidery I've tried and
> the quilting of the first two quilts, which were both small and didn't
> have very complex quilting, one everything free motion was a gradual curve
> going over no seams, 2nd was quilted with a spiders web, did cross seams
> and appeared to be fine. The third was where things started to go wrong,
> but I assumed it was the batting, as I was trying a fusible for the first
> time, the skipping would happen as I crossed a seam and the thread would
> snap. All of those were small, now I'm working on a 70"*70" top which will
> get borders added to be a queen size. I made a test sandwich and
> everything appeared fine, but on to the big quilt and it's a disaster, I
> don't think I'm moving too slow or two fast as it's find until I get to
> the seam, the way it then snaps is making me wonder if somehow hitting the
> seam makes something unhappy and the top tension suddenly tightens and
> then it snaps.
> I think it's a going to the shop job, as I think I've tried everything, I
> tried different sizes of needle, quilting needles rather than sharps,
> tried the thread on different spool holders in case the snag was at that
> end. I wondered if the foot was responding badly to the height of a seam,
> but played with all the settings there to no avail.
> I'm going to have to drag the quilt in with me as unless I make a small
> block of the same fabrics I can't duplicate the problem, it's fine on a
> regular sandwich. I'll have at least one kid with me and if the local
> schools are running late again, his preschool is cancelled, even though
> them running late makes them start at the same time.
> I had hoped to make inroads on this quilt today, I've done some QITD that
> I decided was neccessary, I think I have 2 "blocks" where I did manage to
> get through and lots of other bits I need to unpick. I'm presuming they'll
> have to send it away, which means a week!
> Cheers
> Anne
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Posted by Anne Rogers on January 16, 2008, 12:22 pm
Roberta Zollner wrote:
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> Sigh. Sometimes they just won't behave, for no apparent reason. Different
> machines can be finicky about different threads for free motion. Even
> threads they tolerate in regular stitching. It does play havoc with tension
> when you pull the work in all directions. And lots of seams do not help at
> all. This might be where you need to go very slowly, one stitch at a time,
> slow enough to react and not move the quilt if it skips a stitch, so it can
> try again in the same spot.
I even tried different threads. I have tried going slowly, but the
extent you have to slow down is extreme, the speed that makes it work is
difficult to free motion quilt, when you seem to have to go at a medium
speed to get the flow going nicely. This is supposed to be a good
machine, it's specifically designed for quilters, my bottom of the range
Janome could deal with this, though the size of it's harp and angle
meant that my right wrist would be agony very fast, but it was still
possible!
I want to call the store, but annoyingly my groceries which were due to
be delivered by 9 haven't arrived, so I don't want to start phoning,
which would probably guarantee the groceries would arrive at just that
moment!
Anne
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Posted by Musicmaker on January 16, 2008, 1:49 pm
something has occurred to me because of a similar recent experience
with my new baby lock - my manual stresses that the bobbin thread and
the top thread need to be similar in weight. I had been using a very
light bobbin thread with a heavy quilting thread on top, and when I
switched to the heaviest black I could find in the bobbin, the
stitches improved a lot, though I can't say it never skips.
Musicmaker
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Posted by Anne Rogers on January 16, 2008, 3:07 pm
Musicmaker wrote:
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> something has occurred to me because of a similar recent experience
> with my new baby lock - my manual stresses that the bobbin thread and
> the top thread need to be similar in weight. I had been using a very
> light bobbin thread with a heavy quilting thread on top, and when I
> switched to the heaviest black I could find in the bobbin, the
> stitches improved a lot, though I can't say it never skips.
Was using the same in both! I almost always do, it has the advantage
that if there is a slight tension problem it's not noticeable.
Took it into the shop, tried both a denim and a topstitch needle, the
frustrating thing is, neither the shop assistant or I can get the
problem to replicate on a sample, she didn't try on the quilt itself,
but I showed her what happens and it's pretty clear that whilst I'm not
perfect, it's not me suddenly doing something random that causes it to
skip. Oddly enough it started skipping more randomly and not just at the
seams.
It's going to the workshop, I hope they can figure it out, the best
theory is it's some kind of timing or fine adjustment that's a little
off, that's good enough to cope with when you have a small sample, but
when you've got a big quilt the slight extra stresses are enough to make
it not work.
Cheers
Anne
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> I've been very happy with piecing, some machine embroidery I've tried and
> the quilting of the first two quilts, which were both small and didn't
> have very complex quilting, one everything free motion was a gradual curve
> going over no seams, 2nd was quilted with a spiders web, did cross seams
> and appeared to be fine. The third was where things started to go wrong,
> but I assumed it was the batting, as I was trying a fusible for the first
> time, the skipping would happen as I crossed a seam and the thread would
> snap. All of those were small, now I'm working on a 70"*70" top which will
> get borders added to be a queen size. I made a test sandwich and
> everything appeared fine, but on to the big quilt and it's a disaster, I
> don't think I'm moving too slow or two fast as it's find until I get to
> the seam, the way it then snaps is making me wonder if somehow hitting the
> seam makes something unhappy and the top tension suddenly tightens and
> then it snaps.
> I think it's a going to the shop job, as I think I've tried everything, I
> tried different sizes of needle, quilting needles rather than sharps,
> tried the thread on different spool holders in case the snag was at that
> end. I wondered if the foot was responding badly to the height of a seam,
> but played with all the settings there to no avail.
> I'm going to have to drag the quilt in with me as unless I make a small
> block of the same fabrics I can't duplicate the problem, it's fine on a
> regular sandwich. I'll have at least one kid with me and if the local
> schools are running late again, his preschool is cancelled, even though
> them running late makes them start at the same time.
> I had hoped to make inroads on this quilt today, I've done some QITD that
> I decided was neccessary, I think I have 2 "blocks" where I did manage to
> get through and lots of other bits I need to unpick. I'm presuming they'll
> have to send it away, which means a week!
> Cheers
> Anne