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Buying a machine on Ebay? Cookie 05-08-2006
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Posted by Cookie on May 8, 2006, 7:00 pm
I was wondering if anyone has had a very good or very bad experience buying
a machine on eBay? I bought a less expensive sewing machine on Ebay before,
but the one I'm looking at now it quite expensive so I'm hesitant. It's the
Brother PC-8500 (Pacesetter). I once borrowed this model of machine and
liked it a lot. The seller is offering it along with the Brother card
writer and some Embroidery books, hat hoop, digitizing books and other
stuff. Seems like a good deal and the seller has pretty good feedback. I'm
hesitant though to spend this much money online. Any thoughts? I need to
make up my mind soon, it ends tomorrow!

Any advice would be appreciated.
Cookie



Posted by Hannas Mum on May 8, 2006, 8:00 pm
On Mon, 8 May 2006 19:00:29 -0400, "Cookie"

>I was wondering if anyone has had a very good or very bad experience buying
>a machine on eBay? I bought a less expensive sewing machine on Ebay before,
>but the one I'm looking at now it quite expensive so I'm hesitant. It's the
>Brother PC-8500 (Pacesetter). I once borrowed this model of machine and
>liked it a lot. The seller is offering it along with the Brother card
>writer and some Embroidery books, hat hoop, digitizing books and other
>stuff. Seems like a good deal and the seller has pretty good feedback. I'm
>hesitant though to spend this much money online. Any thoughts? I need to
>make up my mind soon, it ends tomorrow!
>
>Any advice would be appreciated.
>Cookie
>
Try asking on the Brother lists. They will probably know the machine
and possibly the seller is one of the members of the list. Its always
good to check with the machine specific yahoo lists.
Lots of dialogue with the seller is one way to find out, ask for more
pictures or better ones. Ask to see something that has been sewn on
the machine.

Over the past few years I have purchased more than 2 dozen machines
from eBay. Most have been excellent purchases, some I paid too much
for but that is the other side of collecting. When you want it you
pay for it. I have also purchased other things on eBay like fabric,
and vintage notions. About the only thing I got stiffed on was a set
of vintage Westinghouse Roaster Oven dishes and a Palm pilot. The
dishes arrived broken, but I got my money back and the Palm never
arrived although the seller seeno1 did cash the money order. So
in all this time only one real disaster. Make sure that the machine
is packed properly and NOT by a professional packer.....they DO NOT
know how to pack, same goes for the UPS store. There is a web page
http://www.sew2go.com/packingseries.htm that tells exactly how to pack
a sewing machine or better yet see if you can pick up if that is
possible. DO NOT let them tell you they know how to pack it ----they
do not!!!! I cannot stress this enough!!!!!!!!! There is only ONE way
to pack a machine for shipment and that is show in the site above.
Every machine I have had to have shipped I have paid extra for the
above packing and everyone has arrived safely. I am sure there are a
couple dozen horror stories here though about the use of
'professional' packers, peanuts, bubble wrap and all the other stuff
that does not work. This is without a doubt the most important thing
about the sale--will they follow your directions for packing, if not
do not even bid.

Posted by Phaedrine on May 9, 2006, 12:57 am
wrote:

> There is a web page
> http://www.sew2go.com/packingseries.htm that tells exactly how to pack
> a sewing machine or better yet see if you can pick up if that is
> possible. DO NOT let them tell you they know how to pack it ----they
> do not!!!! I cannot stress this enough!!!!!!!!! There is only ONE way
> to pack a machine for shipment and that is show in the site above.
> Every machine I have had to have shipped I have paid extra for the
> above packing and everyone has arrived safely. I am sure there are a
> couple dozen horror stories here though about the use of
> 'professional' packers, peanuts, bubble wrap and all the other stuff
> that does not work. This is without a doubt the most important thing
> about the sale--will they follow your directions for packing, if not
> do not even bid.

Thanks for the heads-up on this. I don't know how you can possibly tell
if a machine would be packed properly unless you know the seller
personally or have a recommendation from someone else who knows. This
must making buying sewing machines over the internet extremely difficult.

A dealer recently shipped one of my machines to an out of state
technician since the dealer's technician is incompetent and was unable
to repair my machine properly and even damaged things that worked. They
did this w/o my permission and w/o even notifying me. They even
accidentally shipped it to the wrong place! My machine has surface
damage in the form of a big black mark on the bed that won't come off
and two gouges in the metal on the face of the machine. Heaven only
knows if the innards suffered. I am very worried. But I know they
packed the machine in styrofoam because there was residue all over it.
My machine is a Bernina with a hard case. Needless to say, that dealer
will never touch my machine again. It's been a total nightmare.

Phae

--
I fear me you but warm the starved snake,
Who, cherished in your breasts, will sting your hearts. (Henry VI, Shakespeare)

Posted by Melinda Meahan - take out TRAS on May 9, 2006, 2:26 am
Phaedrine wrote:
>
> Thanks for the heads-up on this. I don't know how you can possibly tell
> if a machine would be packed properly unless you know the seller
> personally or have a recommendation from someone else who knows. This
> must making buying sewing machines over the internet extremely difficult.

Once I start writing the seller and describing to them in eloquent
manner the devastation of getting the perfect machine at the perfect
price, only to have it arrive shattered in pieces, then sending them the
links to the "how to pack a machine" sites and asking them if I won the
auction could they please pack it this way, and I would pay them extra
for packing it well to make sure that it arrived intact, I had no
problems with the sellers who were willing to do this, and then I made
sure I put on the feedback that the machine was packed excellently.
Works like a charm.


> A dealer recently shipped one of my machines to an out of state
> technician since the dealer's technician is incompetent and was unable
> to repair my machine properly and even damaged things that worked. They
> did this w/o my permission and w/o even notifying me. They even
> accidentally shipped it to the wrong place! My machine has surface
> damage in the form of a big black mark on the bed that won't come off
> and two gouges in the metal on the face of the machine. Heaven only
> knows if the innards suffered. I am very worried. But I know they
> packed the machine in styrofoam because there was residue all over it.
> My machine is a Bernina with a hard case. Needless to say, that dealer
> will never touch my machine again. It's been a total nightmare.


It's too bad you can't get some compensation for that damage. How
awful!!!!!!!

Posted by Phaedrine on May 9, 2006, 12:30 pm
wrote:

> Phaedrine wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the heads-up on this. I don't know how you can possibly tell
> > if a machine would be packed properly unless you know the seller
> > personally or have a recommendation from someone else who knows. This
> > must make buying sewing machines over the internet extremely difficult.
>
> Once I start writing the seller and describing to them in eloquent
> manner the devastation of getting the perfect machine at the perfect
> price, only to have it arrive shattered in pieces, then sending them the
> links to the "how to pack a machine" sites and asking them if I won the
> auction could they please pack it this way, and I would pay them extra
> for packing it well to make sure that it arrived intact, I had no
> problems with the sellers who were willing to do this, and then I made
> sure I put on the feedback that the machine was packed excellently.
> Works like a charm.

That is a fabulous idea that I will tuck away for future reference---
though I still have to redo my furniture to even accommodate the
machines I have now!

> > A dealer recently shipped one of my machines to an out of state
> > technician since the dealer's technician is incompetent and was unable
> > to repair my machine properly and even damaged things that worked. They
> > did this w/o my permission and w/o even notifying me. They even
> > accidentally shipped it to the wrong place! My machine has surface
> > damage in the form of a big black mark on the bed that won't come off
> > and two gouges in the metal on the face of the machine. Heaven only
> > knows if the innards suffered. I am very worried. But I know they
> > packed the machine in styrofoam because there was residue all over it.
> > My machine is a Bernina with a hard case. Needless to say, that dealer
> > will never touch my machine again. It's been a total nightmare.
>
> It's too bad you can't get some compensation for that damage. How
> awful!!!!!!!

The problem is made worse by the fact that I have a different machine I
bought at the same establishment--- obviously before I knew the tech was
incompetent on older machines. It's a shop I've gone to for many years
but it changed owners and that's when the trouble began apparently. My
931 is working well so far except for the long basting stitch which is
frozen and was left unfixed. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Phae

--
I fear me you but warm the starved snake,
Who, cherished in your breasts, will sting your hearts. (Henry VI, Shakespeare)

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