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Posted by Kate XXXXXX on April 12, 2009, 7:51 am
Ursula Schrader wrote:
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> "Kate XXXXXX" wrote...
>> My parents were very strange... They praised each and every one of us for
>> the things we did well or tried hard at (even if the results were a
>> failure!). They taught us how to think for ourselves and to do all the
>> practical things: bro can cook, iron his own shirts, run his own house...
>> Us three sisters can change fuses and plugs, paint walls, mix concrete...
>
> Not strange, good! I'm sure that my life would have looked a lot different
> with a little bit more praise. But at least none of us was ever discouraged
> if they wanted to learn skill typical for the other gender. Anyway, from
> where I am now I can see that the burden my parents put on my back is just a
> fraction of what theirs (and WW II) put on their backs. So I mustn't
> grumble, especially since I've been able to learn to cope with it. Mind you,
> what is perfect in this world? ;-)
>
>> My mum wanted a bookacse for the bedroom Big Sis and I shared. She went
>> to evening classes and built one. 40+ years later she still uses it. I
>> wanted a shed. I helped Alan put the roof on it!
>
> You know what I think? 'Gender specific work' is an invention of snobbish
> upper classes (or patriarchic forces, depending on how ultra feminist you
> want it ;-)) ; in the olden days, the farmer and his wife had cope with
> whatever workload was there, and if you were a poor man's wife you couldn't
> tend your sewing basket all day but had to give your husband a hand out in
> the field or where ever he worked. Made you an equal, though, and
> uncomfortably self confident I can imagine. Ah well, I'm drifting off and
> haven't got the time to follow this road (coffee at mum's and dad's).
>
>>> beans out of my garden. Do you know something similar, soup of green
>>> beans? It's called 'Schneiderscourage' (Tailor's courage), don't ask me
>>> why, but it was heaven to come home and indulge in this type of meal. And
>>> isn't microwave the greatest thing since sliced bread? ;-) Hope you
>>> enjoyed your meal.
>> I did! Do you have a recipe for that soup? It sounds like it would be
>> lovely, and just the ting for those 'I'm too tired/busy/in pain to cook'
>> days.
>
> Yes, it would, especially since it's got the right name. ;-) As for the
> recipe, it's one of those you learn from you mother and never get proper
> amounts, more like 'take this special pot and fill it to here with water,
> then add this bowl full of whatever'. It'll take a while for me to translate
> and write down the right measurements, but then I'll gladly share it. If you
> think it might be of interest to the entire group I'll post it here. Sorry,
> gotta go now, getting myself and everything ready for the afternoon out.
> Promised to bring 'Waffeln' and whipped cream, made the batter, DH is baking
> them. Anyway, still loads to do. Have a very happy Easter,
>
> U.
>
>
If you just say 'fill a saucepan 2/3 full of whatever', I'm sure we can
all work it out from there. I have recipes that start with 'Take the
carcas from Sundays roast chicken, break into large chuinks, put in a
soup pot and cover with water... ' and go on from there! However much
soup you end up with depends on the size of the chicken to start with,
how much stock you make, and the quantity of leeks you happen to own
that day. :D
Today may be Easter Sunday, but I really *NEED* to tidy up the sewing
stuff and get all the bits dragged out from wherever put away again
properly, leaving out only the stuff that is In Progress, and all that
neatly bagged and ready to roll!
I'll parcel up your fabrics and shirts and get them off to you, and
follow as soon as possible with the patterns and the new toile (without
godets) so you can see what it looks like. :)
I'm in a right old mess hear (more so than usual!), and some easy-peasy
been soup in vats in the freezer would make life so much simpler!
I am going to TRY to clear the decks enough to finish Vickey's Knickers
- the Victorian bloomers for Vicky the Customer!
--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
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Posted by Ursula Schrader on April 13, 2009, 8:59 am
"Kate XXXXXX" wrote...
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> If you just say 'fill a saucepan 2/3 full of whatever', I'm sure we can
> all work it out from there. I have recipes that start with 'Take the
> carcas from Sundays roast chicken, break into large chuinks, put in a soup
> pot and cover with water... ' and go on from there! However much soup
> you end up with depends on the size of the chicken to start with, how much
> stock you make, and the quantity of leeks you happen to own that day. :D
OK, I did my best, I hope I translated the essential ingredients correctly.
Don't hesitate to ask if I didn't express well enough. Here goes:
Tailor's Courage (enough to feed a small army or freeze for many unhappy
days as a 'comforter'
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2 l cold water
500 g of boiling meat (beef, with fat, bones and some nice meat)
1 bay leaf
5 allspice berries
½ Tb peppercorns
1 - 2 Tb salt
Let it boil up and then simmer for about 1 hour. Or just use stock cubes
for 2 l of broth.
Add
4 Mettwürstchen (German pork sausage, smoked and soft, not hard like salami)
in slices
or about
2 cups of baconbits. The taste of smoked pork is essential!
Add diced (in order of appearance while the pot is already beginning to
heat):
1 bit of celery root
1 parsley root (optional)
1 small parsnip (optional)
1 - 3 carrots (matter of taste)
6 or so potatoes (size of chicken eggs, and anyway, it's a matter of taste)
1 sprig of lovage (fresh, don't bother with the dried stuff, don't know
about frozen)
½ - 1 leek (matter of taste)
Add last (in case of the stock-cube version when everything has begun
boiling)
1 kg fresh green beans cut into 4 cm-pieces (not the princess ones, should
be thicker) or the same stuff, frozen. If you want to freeze the stew, don't
use tinned green beans, they'll disappear into nothingness after thawing.
Let boil until everything is done (watch the beans, they tend to overcook,
at least with me ;-))
Take out the boiling meat, pick it over and return the nice parts in small
pieces into the soup.
Season to taste with salt, ground pepper, perhaps more stock cubes.
If you like hot Dusseldorf mustard, put some on the soup to go with the
beef. Chopped fresh parsley on top is nice, too.
Guten Appetit! ;-)
U.
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Posted by Kate XXXXXX on April 13, 2009, 11:45 am
Ursula Schrader wrote:
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> "Kate XXXXXX" wrote...
>> If you just say 'fill a saucepan 2/3 full of whatever', I'm sure we can
>> all work it out from there. I have recipes that start with 'Take the
>> carcas from Sundays roast chicken, break into large chuinks, put in a soup
>> pot and cover with water... ' and go on from there! However much soup
>> you end up with depends on the size of the chicken to start with, how much
>> stock you make, and the quantity of leeks you happen to own that day. :D
>
> OK, I did my best, I hope I translated the essential ingredients correctly.
> Don't hesitate to ask if I didn't express well enough. Here goes:
>
> Tailor's Courage (enough to feed a small army or freeze for many unhappy
> days as a 'comforter'
> ============
> 2 l cold water
> 500 g of boiling meat (beef, with fat, bones and some nice meat)
> 1 bay leaf
> 5 allspice berries
> ½ Tb peppercorns
> 1 - 2 Tb salt
>
> Let it boil up and then simmer for about 1 hour. Or just use stock cubes
> for 2 l of broth.
>
> Add
> 4 Mettwürstchen (German pork sausage, smoked and soft, not hard like salami)
> in slices
> or about
> 2 cups of baconbits. The taste of smoked pork is essential!
>
> Add diced (in order of appearance while the pot is already beginning to
> heat):
>
> 1 bit of celery root
> 1 parsley root (optional)
> 1 small parsnip (optional)
> 1 - 3 carrots (matter of taste)
> 6 or so potatoes (size of chicken eggs, and anyway, it's a matter of taste)
> 1 sprig of lovage (fresh, don't bother with the dried stuff, don't know
> about frozen)
> ½ - 1 leek (matter of taste)
>
> Add last (in case of the stock-cube version when everything has begun
> boiling)
> 1 kg fresh green beans cut into 4 cm-pieces (not the princess ones, should
> be thicker) or the same stuff, frozen. If you want to freeze the stew, don't
> use tinned green beans, they'll disappear into nothingness after thawing.
>
> Let boil until everything is done (watch the beans, they tend to overcook,
> at least with me ;-))
> Take out the boiling meat, pick it over and return the nice parts in small
> pieces into the soup.
> Season to taste with salt, ground pepper, perhaps more stock cubes.
> If you like hot Dusseldorf mustard, put some on the soup to go with the
> beef. Chopped fresh parsley on top is nice, too.
>
> Guten Appetit! ;-)
>
> U.
Excellent. I can work out a nice lower fat (essential for me) version
using beef stock, a little roast beef, a reduced fat 'German saussage',
and work from there. I dare say every tailor's wife did their own
version anyway, so little variations here and there aren't a problem.
It's soup, after all, not Pavlova cases, where the slightest deviation
from the recipe and method results in soggy, flabby things rather than
crisp pavlova that snaps into a suggary, powdery mess when you bite it
(as it should!) :D
--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
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Posted by Olwyn Mary on April 14, 2009, 10:04 pm
Kate XXXXXX wrote:
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> Excellent. I can work out a nice lower fat (essential for me) version
> using beef stock, a little roast beef, a reduced fat 'German saussage',
> and work from there. I dare say every tailor's wife did their own
> version anyway, so little variations here and there aren't a problem.
> It's soup, after all, not Pavlova cases, where the slightest deviation
> from the recipe and method results in soggy, flabby things rather than
> crisp pavlova that snaps into a suggary, powdery mess when you bite it
> (as it should!) :D
Kate: I answered this yesterday, but it seems to have disapeared into
cyberspace.
Anyhow, I do just about everything lowfat these days - save the fats for
when they really DO make a difference - and the way I do something like
this is I split it into two days. The firat day I prepare the stock,
just pop all the ingredients into the Crock-Pot and let it simmer all
night. The next morning, strain it, put the meat on a plate and the
liquid into a glass jug and refrigerate both. Leave them there all day.
Then when the fat has risen to the top and hardened, I take it out and
either discard it or save it to use as dripping, put the rest ofthe
stuff into the pot and carry on from there. If I do the second stage
also in the slow cooker it will take care of itself while I get on with
other things - like reading a novel, maybe if I am not desperately sewing.
Ursula, this sounds like a great recipe. I have printed it out and will
file it after I have tried it.
Olwyn Mary in New Orleans
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Posted by Kate XXXXXX on April 15, 2009, 4:31 am
Olwyn Mary wrote:
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> Kate XXXXXX wrote:
>
>> Excellent. I can work out a nice lower fat (essential for me) version
>> using beef stock, a little roast beef, a reduced fat 'German
>> saussage', and work from there. I dare say every tailor's wife did
>> their own version anyway, so little variations here and there aren't a
>> problem. It's soup, after all, not Pavlova cases, where the slightest
>> deviation from the recipe and method results in soggy, flabby things
>> rather than crisp pavlova that snaps into a suggary, powdery mess when
>> you bite it (as it should!) :D
>
>
>
> Kate: I answered this yesterday, but it seems to have disapeared into
> cyberspace.
>
> Anyhow, I do just about everything lowfat these days - save the fats for
> when they really DO make a difference - and the way I do something like
> this is I split it into two days. The firat day I prepare the stock,
> just pop all the ingredients into the Crock-Pot and let it simmer all
> night. The next morning, strain it, put the meat on a plate and the
> liquid into a glass jug and refrigerate both. Leave them there all day.
> Then when the fat has risen to the top and hardened, I take it out and
> either discard it or save it to use as dripping, put the rest ofthe
> stuff into the pot and carry on from there. If I do the second stage
> also in the slow cooker it will take care of itself while I get on with
> other things - like reading a novel, maybe if I am not desperately sewing.
>
> Ursula, this sounds like a great recipe. I have printed it out and will
> file it after I have tried it.
>
> Olwyn Mary in New Orleans
That sounds like the standard way mum taught me to make stock. We both
always hated greasy soup! ;) have a fat separating jug, so I can
speed things up a bit, but I'm thinking of cheating and using stock
cubes this time out, as we so rarely eat beef (it's one of the things I
can only cope with in miniscule quantities well spaced!).
I alternate the slow cooker and the pressure cooker, and have been known
to use both in one recipe! :D
--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
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>> My parents were very strange... They praised each and every one of us for
>> the things we did well or tried hard at (even if the results were a
>> failure!). They taught us how to think for ourselves and to do all the
>> practical things: bro can cook, iron his own shirts, run his own house...
>> Us three sisters can change fuses and plugs, paint walls, mix concrete...
>
> Not strange, good! I'm sure that my life would have looked a lot different
> with a little bit more praise. But at least none of us was ever discouraged
> if they wanted to learn skill typical for the other gender. Anyway, from
> where I am now I can see that the burden my parents put on my back is just a
> fraction of what theirs (and WW II) put on their backs. So I mustn't
> grumble, especially since I've been able to learn to cope with it. Mind you,
> what is perfect in this world? ;-)
>
>> My mum wanted a bookacse for the bedroom Big Sis and I shared. She went
>> to evening classes and built one. 40+ years later she still uses it. I
>> wanted a shed. I helped Alan put the roof on it!
>
> You know what I think? 'Gender specific work' is an invention of snobbish
> upper classes (or patriarchic forces, depending on how ultra feminist you
> want it ;-)) ; in the olden days, the farmer and his wife had cope with
> whatever workload was there, and if you were a poor man's wife you couldn't
> tend your sewing basket all day but had to give your husband a hand out in
> the field or where ever he worked. Made you an equal, though, and
> uncomfortably self confident I can imagine. Ah well, I'm drifting off and
> haven't got the time to follow this road (coffee at mum's and dad's).
>
>>> beans out of my garden. Do you know something similar, soup of green
>>> beans? It's called 'Schneiderscourage' (Tailor's courage), don't ask me
>>> why, but it was heaven to come home and indulge in this type of meal. And
>>> isn't microwave the greatest thing since sliced bread? ;-) Hope you
>>> enjoyed your meal.
>> I did! Do you have a recipe for that soup? It sounds like it would be
>> lovely, and just the ting for those 'I'm too tired/busy/in pain to cook'
>> days.
>
> Yes, it would, especially since it's got the right name. ;-) As for the
> recipe, it's one of those you learn from you mother and never get proper
> amounts, more like 'take this special pot and fill it to here with water,
> then add this bowl full of whatever'. It'll take a while for me to translate
> and write down the right measurements, but then I'll gladly share it. If you
> think it might be of interest to the entire group I'll post it here. Sorry,
> gotta go now, getting myself and everything ready for the afternoon out.
> Promised to bring 'Waffeln' and whipped cream, made the batter, DH is baking
> them. Anyway, still loads to do. Have a very happy Easter,
>
> U.
>
>