Help with a Singer Touch and Sew 630: chainstich (images included)

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Help with a Singer Touch and Sew 630: chainstich (images included) Mina Prefect 08-10-2009
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Posted by Mina Prefect on August 10, 2009, 7:08 pm
Hello,
I'm having so much trouble getting the chain stitch to work and honestly I
have no idea what I'm doing wrong as I'm following the manual 100% exactly.
The instructions manual pages on the subject are here:
http://kansaigal.net/sewinghelp/sewinghelp08.jpg

I've taken pictures to show what I've been doing.
http://kansaigal.net/sewinghelp/sewinghelp01.jpg
Throat plate is put in, flush with the operating surface. Set to the
"regular" position.

http://kansaigal.net/sewinghelp/sewinghelp02.jpg
Bobbin case cover is put in, little knobly bit is facing right.

http://kansaigal.net/sewinghelp/sewinghelp03.jpg
Machine is threaded with chain stitch thread guide.

http://kansaigal.net/sewinghelp/sewinghelp04.jpg
stitch pattern is AK, stitch width is 3, stitch length is 8, presser foot
is general purpose
In this case, the presser foot pressure is set to 4, the needle-thread
tension is 6.
Needle size is 90/14, thread is "50" mercerized cotton.
Sewing is started on the very edge of the fabric, and nothing is visibly
wrong yet.

http://kansaigal.net/sewinghelp/sewinghelp05.jpg
Fabric is bunching horribly, in fact, fabric is no longer moving at all.

http://kansaigal.net/sewinghelp/sewinghelp06.jpg
When removed from the machine, the loops are much too large.

http://kansaigal.net/sewinghelp/sewinghelp07.jpg
Excess thread is stuck beneath the throat plate.

I've attempted adjusting the needle-thread tension at various settings; 0,
2, 4, 6, 8 (thread snaps immediately) but the basic problem is that there
is excess thread accumulating under the throat plates no matter what the
tension settings are. (I've also tried changing the presser foot settings
as well, no change.)

I have no idea what is going wrong here. Any help would be GREATLY
appreciated.



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Posted by Sharon Hays on August 11, 2009, 7:37 am
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One thing, not the total problem, but that needle is way too heavy for the
fabric you're using. You only want a 90 for things like denim, or other
heavy weight fabrics. I know the directions tell you a 14 needle, but that
needle is too heavy for the fabric you are using. You want maybe a 70 for
the fabric in the pictures.

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I think this is more of your problem that anything else. Are your feed dogs
moving at all when you stitch? When the fabric stops moving through, and
the machine stitches over and over again in the same spot, that's when you
get the gnarled mess that catches under the throat plate. If the feed dogs
are moving, is the fabric getting pulled down through the throat plate?

You are threading with the presser foot raised until it's threaded past the
tension disks right? You need the presser foot raised to open the tension
disks so the thread can pass between them. You'd be amazed how many
tension problems are caused by that alone.

Have you cleaned the machine lately? There could be dust or lint in between
the tension disks. (another frequent culprit) If you have emery cloth
around a thin strip of that is great for "flossing" (just like your teeth)
between the tension disks. But any non-linty fabric strip will do.

Oh too, since it's a Singer, what brand of needle are you using? Some of
them are Very particular and only like Singer brand needles. And I have
heard of some that only get finicky about the needle with certain stitches.
My industrial Singer doesn't care so long as they are industrial machine
needles. My Singer home machine however, is very picky and won't use
anything but Singer needles.

I don't know this machine, and I don't have anything in my collection that's
similar. So my answers are pretty general. The pictures were great
though. Someone here will either have the machine or know more about it
than I do. And I'm sure the pictures will make a huge difference in
diagnosing the problem.

HTH
Sharon
--
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of time and just annoys the
pig.

Posted by Emily Bengston on August 11, 2009, 9:02 am
Another thing that Sharon didn't mention is:
Are you certain you have the needle in the machine correctly?
I know it is so easy for it to turn when inserting it.

My suggestion is completely unthread the machine, remove the bobbin and give
the machine a thorough cleaning, the tension disks and around the bobbin
area to get all the pieces of thread and dust. Oil it and wipe away the
extra oil.
Then re-thread with the correct needle, as Sharon suggested, and thread.
If the fabric is thin/fine, I'd suggest using a poly or silk thread
Make certain the needle and bobbin are inserted in the machine correctly and
neither are bent.
Over time, I've had bobbins get tiny dings in them.

HTH,
Emily



Posted by singersewingshoppe on August 11, 2009, 10:51 am
singersewingshoppe had written this in response to
http://www.sewgirls.com/sewing/Help-with-a-Singer-Touch-and-Sew-630-chainstich-images-inc-42359-.htm
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Chainstitching with a Touch & Sew requires:

1. A bobbin insert that replaces the bobbin.
A flat metal plate that goes inside the bobbin case.

2. A chain stitching needle plate.
A new needle plate that has a special finger on the underside that
interrupts the thread for chaining to occur.

3. A chain stitching thread guide. This lengthens the needle thread on
each stitch so that a chain can be formed.

It doesn't sound like you have all the parts needed for chainstitching.
There is a seperate "Chainstitching Manual" for the complete process. It
is a FREE download.

Singer Sewing Shoppe


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Posted by robb on August 11, 2009, 3:34 pm

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chainstitching.
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The OP's pictures and description show that the OP has all those
parts ?

The *extra* "Chainstitching Manual" does not have anymore useful
information for setup of chainstitch than the manual pages shown
by OP, though it does have useful hints/tips on how to use
chainstitching for sewing projects once it is working.


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presser
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needle-thread
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