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> Pogonip wrote:
>> BEI Design wrote:
>>> Pogonip wrote:
>>>> BEI Design wrote:
>>>>> Pogonip wrote:
>>>>>> BEI Design wrote:
>>>>>>> Pogonip wrote:
>>>>>>>> Kathleen wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Pogonip wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> BEI Design wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Pogonip wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> BEI Design wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pogonip wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BEI Design wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pogonip wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BEI Design wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pogonip wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry Green wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BEI Design wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My DH joked about that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scream for years afterward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beverly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P.S. Don't go to that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link if you are easily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nauseated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OOOOO ....Those are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whoppers! We used to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some pretty big
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slugs back in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UK but where I live now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in Canada we rarely see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slugs (thankfully)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but get enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of other 'creepy crawly'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> types to keep us busy!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the things I love
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about northern Nevada. No
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never seen a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snail, either. (Same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, one with house, one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without.) No
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fleas. No
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> palmetto bugs, June bugs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Japanese beetles, black
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flies. No fireflies,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which I do miss. We have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flies,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was just thinking the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other day about the amazing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fireflies we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saw in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Philadelphia, I loved them!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't get any here. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think we were hearing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cicadas in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nashville,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I'm not sure,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we never saw whatever was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making the sound. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't remember seeing ANY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> birds while in Nashville,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strange.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spiders, wasps, bees,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earwigs, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a few others,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, here too. Mostly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-lethal, but yuck!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's so different from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> south
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Florida
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or Pennsylvania or New
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hampshire. There are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mosquitoes if you live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> near the swampy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> areas, which I don't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are very careful about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> standing water, people with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Koi ponds and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other "water
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> features" have the worst
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breeding spots.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mormon crickets are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crossing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> state north of us.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are they wearing narrow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> black ties and riding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bicycles?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There goes another keyboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you're not! You enjoyed that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tremendously.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now *my* keyboard and monitor are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all covered with iced tea! (And
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>> right, I did. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought about telling you only the
>>>>>>>>>>>> boy crickets dress that way. The girl
>>>>>>>>>>>> crickets wear Peter Pan collars,
>>>>>>>>>>>> sleeves, and skirt
>>>>>>>>>>>> hems below the knee.
>>>>>>>>>>> I imagine (but have no way of proving
>>>>>>>>>>> it) that they also wear the mysterious
>>>>>>>>>>> temple garments as well...
>>>>>>>>>> Well, you never ever see those except when
>>>>>>>>>> they're hanging on the clothesline on wash
>>>>>>>>>> day!
>>>>>>>>> Not even then. They cover them up with a
>>>>>>>>> sheet so's the infidels can't peek at them.
>>>>>>>>> Not that I would, anyways...
>>>>>>>> Infidels or "gentiles"? The only place Jews
>>>>>>>> are called gentiles is in Utah. Mind-boggling,
>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>> I challenge you to name me one thing about the
>>>>>>> LDS mythology and fable that *isn't*
>>>>>>> mind-boggling.
>>>>>> Can I get back to you on that?
>>>>> Sure take all the time you need. Of course, the sun
>>>>> will have gone nova by then.
>>>> Probably.
>>> Probably? Surely you mean absolutely? I doubt very
>>> much you could come up with a valid answer sooner than
>>> 5 billion years.
>>> http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_will_the_sun_last
>> To be honest, it's not the only faith-based system I find
>> incomprehensible.
>
> ITYM "all faith based systems = incomprehensible". It's
> intentional, they are that way by 'design'.
>
> HTH,
>

> BEI Design wrote:
> > Pogonip wrote:
> > > BEI Design wrote:
> > > > Pogonip wrote:
> > > > > BEI Design wrote:
> > > > > > Pogonip wrote:
> > > > > > > BEI Design wrote:
> > > > > > > > Pogonip wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Kathleen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Pogonip wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > BEI Design wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Pogonip wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > BEI Design wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pogonip wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BEI Design wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pogonip wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BEI Design wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pogonip wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Larry Green wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BEI Design wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My DH joked about that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scream for years
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > afterward.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beverly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. Don't go to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that link if you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > easily nauseated
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OOOOO ....Those are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whoppers! We used
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to get some pretty
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slugs back in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > UK but where I live
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now in Canada we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rarely
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see slugs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (thankfully)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but get enough
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of other 'creepy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > crawly' types to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > keep us
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > busy!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the things I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > love about northern
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nevada. No slugs.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never seen a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > snail, either. (Same
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thing, one with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house, one without.)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fleas. No
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > palmetto bugs, June
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bugs, Japanese
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beetles,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > black flies. No
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fireflies,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which I do miss. We
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have flies,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was just thinking the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other day about the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amazing fireflies we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saw in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Philadelphia, I loved
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > them! We don't get any
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. I think we were
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hearing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cicadas in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nashville,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I'm not sure,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we never saw whatever
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was making the sound. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't remember seeing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ANY birds while in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nashville, very
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > strange.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spiders, wasps, bees,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > earwigs, and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a few others,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, here too. Mostly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > non-lethal, but yuck!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's so different from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > south
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Florida
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or Pennsylvania or New
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hampshire. There are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mosquitoes if you live
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > near the swampy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > areas, which I don't.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are very careful
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about standing water,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with Koi ponds and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other "water
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > features" have the worst
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > breeding spots.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Mormon crickets
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > crossing the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state north of us.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are they wearing narrow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > black ties and riding
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bicycles?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ;-)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There goes another
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > keyboard.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, you're not! You enjoyed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that tremendously.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now *my* keyboard and monitor
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are all covered with iced tea!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (And
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > right, I did. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > was pretty
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought about telling you only
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the boy crickets dress that way.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > girl crickets wear Peter Pan
> > > > > > > > > > > > > collars,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > sleeves, and skirt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > hems below the knee.
> > > > > > > > > > > > I imagine (but have no way of
> > > > > > > > > > > > proving it) that they also wear the
> > > > > > > > > > > > mysterious temple garments as
> > > > > > > > > > > > well...
> > > > > > > > > > > Well, you never ever see those except
> > > > > > > > > > > when they're hanging on the
> > > > > > > > > > > clothesline on
> > > > > > > > > > > wash day!
> > > > > > > > > > Not even then. They cover them up with
> > > > > > > > > > a sheet so's the infidels can't peek at
> > > > > > > > > > Not that I would, anyways...
> > > > > > > > > Infidels or "gentiles"? The only place
> > > > > > > > > Jews are called gentiles is in Utah.
> > > > > > > > > Mind-boggling, that.
> > > > > > > > I challenge you to name me one thing about
> > > > > > > > the LDS mythology and fable that *isn't*
> > > > > > > > mind-boggling.
> > > > > > > Can I get back to you on that?
> > > > > > Sure take all the time you need. Of course,
> > > > > > the sun will have gone nova by then.
> > > > > Probably.
> > > > Probably? Surely you mean absolutely? I doubt very
> > > > much you could come up with a valid answer sooner
> > > > than 5 billion years.
> > > > http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_will_the_sun_last
> > > To be honest, it's not the only faith-based system I
> > > find incomprehensible.
> > ITYM "all faith based systems = incomprehensible". It's
> > intentional, they are that way by 'design'.
> > HTH,
> Thanks. Since they all evolved to explain the
> inexplicable -- like solar eclipses, droughts, floods,
> storms -- they have a lot in common. But since we've
> figured out there are some rational causes to these
> events, it's a bit of a leap to believe in an invisible
> force or personality that is responsible for everything.
> But if someone is going to believe in a supernatural
> being, why draw the line there? Why not ghosts, faeries,
> elves, Easter bunnies, Santa Clauses, vampires,
> werewolves - I mean, it's all a matter of faith because
> there is no proof so there are no rules, either.

> ITYM "all faith based systems = incomprehensible". It's
> intentional, they are that way by 'design'.

> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:03:27 -0700, "BEI Design"
> > ITYM "all faith based systems = incomprehensible". It's
> > intentional, they are that way by 'design'.
> But all systems are faith-based, in that every system has
> to start *somewhere*. Start by assuming straight lines
> and you've got plane geometry. Start by assuming right
> and wrong and you've got ethics. Start by assuming that
> death, pain, and disability are bad, and you've got
> medicine. Start by assuming that you can learn about
> the world by observing it, and you've got science.
> Joy Beeson

> I think you are confusing "hypothesis" with "faith'.