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Posted by robb on August 22, 2009, 8:12 am
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> Also Singer puts out what they call a "commercial" machine
thats
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> supposed to be good on heavy fabrics and those run $300 to $500
with
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> the more expensive ones doing embroidery.
if you are refering to the Singer CG### (Commercial Grade)
singers then the word *commercial* is a misnomer designed to
confuse and entice.
I was almost suckered by the name.
I have looked at those machines and it has been discussed here
regularly as a sheep in wolf's clothing.
Those CG### machines have a Singer low end internal product with
a faux-industrial finish.
When i first looked under one it reminded me of the old Singer
Stylist line.
Please don't let the hammered metal appearance and the name
*commercial* sucker you into believing it is any better than the
other Singer *consumer* products it has been grouped with.
Maybe CG just means you can drop if from a higher table and have
it still work :)
I'll let the experts BBQ me (figuratively) if my comments are not
accurate ?
robb
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Posted by Kate XXXXXX on August 22, 2009, 10:12 am
robb wrote:
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> [trim]
>> Also Singer puts out what they call a "commercial" machine
> thats
>> supposed to be good on heavy fabrics and those run $300 to $500
> with
>> the more expensive ones doing embroidery.
>
> if you are refering to the Singer CG### (Commercial Grade)
> singers then the word *commercial* is a misnomer designed to
> confuse and entice.
>
> I was almost suckered by the name.
>
> I have looked at those machines and it has been discussed here
> regularly as a sheep in wolf's clothing.
> Those CG### machines have a Singer low end internal product with
> a faux-industrial finish.
>
> When i first looked under one it reminded me of the old Singer
> Stylist line.
>
> Please don't let the hammered metal appearance and the name
> *commercial* sucker you into believing it is any better than the
> other Singer *consumer* products it has been grouped with.
>
> Maybe CG just means you can drop if from a higher table and have
> it still work :)
>
> I'll let the experts BBQ me (figuratively) if my comments are not
> accurate ?
No, I was looking at them a while back... Th importers here in the UK
at the time would not import those things and told me my Bernina 1005
(domestic machine) was a far better thing by far than this object, and
that the only worthwhile commercial (rather than industrial) machine
about is the Bernina 950. I don't have room, so I'm sticking with what
I have. Has the advantage of saving me even more money! ;)
--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
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Posted by Kate XXXXXX on August 22, 2009, 10:16 am
Kate XXXXXX wrote:
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> robb wrote:
>> [trim]
>>> Also Singer puts out what they call a "commercial" machine
>> thats
>>> supposed to be good on heavy fabrics and those run $300 to $500
>> with
>>> the more expensive ones doing embroidery.
>> if you are refering to the Singer CG### (Commercial Grade)
>> singers then the word *commercial* is a misnomer designed to
>> confuse and entice.
>> I was almost suckered by the name.
>> I have looked at those machines and it has been discussed here
>> regularly as a sheep in wolf's clothing.
>> Those CG### machines have a Singer low end internal product with
>> a faux-industrial finish.
>> When i first looked under one it reminded me of the old Singer
>> Stylist line.
>> Please don't let the hammered metal appearance and the name
>> *commercial* sucker you into believing it is any better than the
>> other Singer *consumer* products it has been grouped with.
>> Maybe CG just means you can drop if from a higher table and have
>> it still work :)
>> I'll let the experts BBQ me (figuratively) if my comments are not
>> accurate ?
>
> No, I was looking at them a while back... Th importers here in the UK
> at the time would not import those things and told me my Bernina 1005
> (domestic machine) was a far better thing by far than this object, and
> that the only worthwhile commercial (rather than industrial) machine
> about is the Bernina 950. I don't have room, so I'm sticking with what
> I have. Has the advantage of saving me even more money! ;)
>
Oh, and be careful to disengage the cutters for the second pass!
--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
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Posted by Kay Lancaster on August 21, 2009, 5:42 pm
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:37:38 +0000, rgypsyrose
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> I am looking for a "new" machine. I have a brother 1120 that my mom gave
I'm going to suggest you consider a non-mechanical machine -- an electronic or
computerized one -- because you get full needle punching force at very slow
speeds with servo and stepper motors, unlike a mechanical machine with a
standard motor.
The hitch is that they tend to be more expensive, even on the used market, and
they tend to cost more to service. But the electronics can be a real
pleasure to sew with and they'll pop those coverall zippers back in easily
as well as sew lighter stuff. I'm sewing on 12+ year old midline Viking
electronic, and I love it. It doesn't jam up, spit bobbins in my lap,
stitches well, and just behaves itself, contrary to my former experiences
with cheap sewing machines.
On the other hand and FWIW, I keep an old Singer 15 around for "dirty
jobs" like tent zippers and sleeping bag zippers and jobs that I can do
with a straight stitch that are just outside what I want to do with
my main machine. At $10 purchase price, and I can do most of the
maintenance myself easily, I don't mind pushing the 15 a little bit.
And there are a lot of decent old straight stitchers around, in need of
homes.
And the foot on the 15 is nice and small so I can sneak inside easily
when I'm doing bluff pockets.
Kay
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