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Need Sewing Machine recommendation for sewing Sunbrella outdoor fabric sandy 07-07-2007
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Posted by Bill Boyce on November 6, 2008, 1:35 pm
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>> A Sailrite LS walking foot does just fine on Sunbrella. I have
>> drilled up to 10 layers of Sunbrella on my LSZ (the zig-zag model)
>> without any trouble. Suggest you get the Monster Wheel option because
>> it both gives you a handy crank for doing one or two stitches at a
>> time and because it makes for serious drilling power in heavy
>> materials. Note that zig-zag is not needed, or even desired, for
>> canvas work (zig-zag is used on sails because sails stretch slightly
>> and the zig-zag stitch flexes a bit so the seams don't tear out).
>> Straight stitch Sailrites are sometimes available used at the price
>> you are looking for (most people want the zig-zag model either for
>> sail work or because they think they will use it on canvas). The
>> clones are not recommended because of the lack of the Monster Wheel
>> and because of the lack of vendor support (by the time you get a clone
>> tricked out to where you want it you are within the price of a 4 oz
>> cone of V-90 thread).
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>> Note, I also have old Pfaff 130, which was considered the cat's meow
>> in do-it-yourself sail and canvas repair in times past. However, it
>> just doesn't have the drilling power of my Sailrite. In fact, trying
>> to sew a blue jeans belt loop back on using my Pfaff knocked it out of
>> time, while my LSZ make short work of it with no heavy lifting.
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>> Note to mariners, you can store a LS/LSZ in a Pelican Model 1550 (I
>> think it's a 1550) waterproof case if you take the motor and motor
>> mount off the machine and store under the arm. The machine fits in
>> the next size Pelican (1600?) with the motor unmoved, but the 1600 is
>> lots bigger.
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>> Note to all regarding Sunbrella, serious basting tape for Sunbrella is
>> available from Sailrite at $7.50 for a 60 yard roll. Staples also
>> work, though one must take care to remove ALL of them afterwards or
>> they rust. 3M Spray 77 also works wonders for tacking together large
>> patches and panels prior to sewing.
>
>> Excuse my while I go finish up the main sail I am working on (nearly
>> done). In a couple of corners it has 10 layers of 7.4 oz resinated
>> sail cloth.
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For those who like staples for a temporary hold in seam allowances,
staples for a Clipper plier stapler are available in s.stl, galvanized,
and aluminum so you don't have to remove them for wet applications.

JPBill

Posted by IMS on July 7, 2007, 5:40 pm

>My poor sewing machine has always been asked to do more than it was
>probably intended to do and has finally died. So I'm shopping for a
>new (or used) one. I never use it for making clothes or other normal
>stuff. My current needs are for sewing Sunbrella fabric (outdoor
>fabric) and making a mainsail cover and maybe adding a protective
>strip to our jib (for our "new" sailboat). I don't really use the
>sewing machine all that much but when I do it's usually for a project
>like this. I don't really want to spend a bunch for it and would be
>just as happy with a used machine. I was hoping to get something for
>no more than $200 - $300 or less. Am I dreaming???? What would you
>recommend?? Will a normal sewing machine be able to handle stuff like
>this or do I need something special?
>
>Really appreciate your suggestions!! Thanks!
>
>Sandy

Stay away from machines that were designed for the home but touted (on
eBay and other online sales sites) as 'industrial strength' by the
sellers. These include vintage Singers, Vikings, Pfaffs, and others.
While they are all-metal and/or gear driven, they were designed for home
use and NOT designed for the type of sewing you are doing.

You need a commercial machine, or an industrial.=20

To get one for under $300 look to buying used.

-Irene

Posted by sandy on July 8, 2007, 2:39 pm
Thanks for all your suggestions and information. I'll be looking for
a used Sailrite machine. I've already got their catalog (will be
ordering some stuff from them but don't feel like buying a new sewing
machine for the limited use I'd probably give it).

Thanks again. Really appreciate your feedback.

Sandy


Posted by Melinda Meahan - take out TRAS on July 8, 2007, 6:10 pm
sandy wrote:
> Thanks for all your suggestions and information. I'll be looking for
> a used Sailrite machine. I've already got their catalog (will be
> ordering some stuff from them but don't feel like buying a new sewing
> machine for the limited use I'd probably give it).

Their low-end machine is only $300-something, and you can probably also
use it for regular sewing. Not really a bad deal...

--
Every job is a self-portrait of the person who does it. Autograph your
work with excellence.

Posted by Gogarty on July 19, 2007, 12:27 pm
You are in the same position we were a couple of years ago. We built a
Sailrite kit sail cover using a domestic machine. The machine died. We
looked at the Sailrite machines but they were just too expensive. Then
we found one, a Yamata industrial machine straight stitch, no walking
foot, no zig-zag, for about $600 including the table and 1/2 HP motor.
The machine, sold by Harbor Freight, appears to be the same as the
Sailrite top of the line at less than half the price. The latest Harbor
Freight catalog now lists a walking foot industrial machine.

Let me tell you this thing is a real bear. For starters, the assembly
weighs 225 pounds! Harbor Freight charged only $9.00 (that's nine) for
shipping from California to New York. It has required an incredible
amount of practice to become adept. But now we are producing marvelous
work in Sunbrella and leather, however many layers you want to go
through. We built a large bimini with many zippers and have produced
custom sail covers for friends (for a fee, of course). We use No. 18
needles and No. 92 thread. For lighter work we would drop down to No. 16
needles and 69 thread.

A main problem with this machine is control. It uses a treadle to engage
the clutch on the always running motor. That treadle requires a deft
touch indeed. A slip of the toe and you're doing some 3,000 stitches
a minute with broken threads and the like all over the place. One can
acquire an electronic control and also different size pulleys that give
better control, and slow down the machine. But those mods cost money.
You can see them in the Sailrite catalog.


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