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Posted by Kate XXXXXX on August 2, 2009, 1:17 pm
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>> Pogonip wrote:
>>> As I understand our doc's thinking, he wants to try this
>>> for three months to see what changes show up in the next
>>> blood test. I sure hope he doesn't have any notions of a
>>> life-long program like this. I'd have to pack DH's bags
>>> before I shove him out the door. ;-)
>> I had friends whose mom managed her diabetes (not sure if
>> it was type 1 or type 2) totally with diet and exercise.
>> She had a (non-electric) treadmill at home and when her
>> BS's were high, she had some formula to walk on it for so
>> long in order to get them to drop. It was a lot of work
>> for her because she had a full-time job, but it was worth
>> it.
>
> Diabetics have to be very careful not to push their blood
> glucose too low. My DH went into convulsions, and ended up
> in the ER, after a normal dose of insulin, followed by not
> quite enough food, and then more exercise than he was
> accustomed to. The doctors told us that he could have died,
> it (hypoglycemia) was actually much more acutely dangerous
> than moderately high glucose.
>
> I'm not advocating against exercise, but I AM advocating
> Joanne and her DH get some really expert advice, preferably
> from an endocrinologist and dietitian.
>
Quite. Himself has need the care of the lovely paramedics and their
bags of magic several times. We've had blood sugar readings off the
bottom of the scale... Never QUITE need the hospital, but it's been close.
On the other hand, he hasn't suffered any of the long-tem effects of
HIGH blood sugar, such as the circulatory problems, blindness and
gangrene that afflicted my father's stepmother. It's a tightrope that
you need to learn to manage, but with the supervision of experts. And
that means experts in the management of diabetes, not your general
practitioner.
--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
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Posted by Pogonip on August 2, 2009, 2:49 pm
Kate XXXXXX wrote:
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> BEI Design wrote:
>>> Pogonip wrote:
>>>> As I understand our doc's thinking, he wants to try this for three
>>>> months to see what changes show up in the next blood test. I sure
>>>> hope he doesn't have any notions of a life-long program like this.
>>>> I'd have to pack DH's bags before I shove him out the door. ;-)
>>> I had friends whose mom managed her diabetes (not sure if it was type
>>> 1 or type 2) totally with diet and exercise. She had a (non-electric)
>>> treadmill at home and when her BS's were high, she had some formula
>>> to walk on it for so long in order to get them to drop. It was a lot
>>> of work for her because she had a full-time job, but it was worth it.
>> Diabetics have to be very careful not to push their blood glucose too
>> low. My DH went into convulsions, and ended up in the ER, after a
>> normal dose of insulin, followed by not quite enough food, and then
>> more exercise than he was accustomed to. The doctors told us that he
>> could have died, it (hypoglycemia) was actually much more acutely
>> dangerous than moderately high glucose.
>> I'm not advocating against exercise, but I AM advocating Joanne and
>> her DH get some really expert advice, preferably from an
>> endocrinologist and dietitian.
> Quite. Himself has need the care of the lovely paramedics and their
> bags of magic several times. We've had blood sugar readings off the
> bottom of the scale... Never QUITE need the hospital, but it's been close.
>
> On the other hand, he hasn't suffered any of the long-tem effects of
> HIGH blood sugar, such as the circulatory problems, blindness and
> gangrene that afflicted my father's stepmother. It's a tightrope that
> you need to learn to manage, but with the supervision of experts. And
> that means experts in the management of diabetes, not your general
> practitioner.
>
>
>
At this point, the notion is to prevent diabetes. DH's blood sugar is
high, but not so high as to be diabetic....yet. If he can ward it off,
that's all to the good. It's in his family, his great-grandfather had
it. Just as glaucoma is in his family. There was "blind granny" and
one of his sisters has it. He really should have been more selective
about his parents, shouldn't he?
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/
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Posted by Kate XXXXXX on August 2, 2009, 6:38 pm
Pogonip wrote:
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> Kate XXXXXX wrote:
>> BEI Design wrote:
>>>> Pogonip wrote:
>>>>> As I understand our doc's thinking, he wants to try this for three
>>>>> months to see what changes show up in the next blood test. I sure
>>>>> hope he doesn't have any notions of a life-long program like this.
>>>>> I'd have to pack DH's bags before I shove him out the door. ;-)
>>>> I had friends whose mom managed her diabetes (not sure if it was
>>>> type 1 or type 2) totally with diet and exercise. She had a
>>>> (non-electric) treadmill at home and when her BS's were high, she
>>>> had some formula to walk on it for so long in order to get them to
>>>> drop. It was a lot of work for her because she had a full-time job,
>>>> but it was worth it.
>>> Diabetics have to be very careful not to push their blood glucose too
>>> low. My DH went into convulsions, and ended up in the ER, after a
>>> normal dose of insulin, followed by not quite enough food, and then
>>> more exercise than he was accustomed to. The doctors told us that he
>>> could have died, it (hypoglycemia) was actually much more acutely
>>> dangerous than moderately high glucose.
>>> I'm not advocating against exercise, but I AM advocating Joanne and
>>> her DH get some really expert advice, preferably from an
>>> endocrinologist and dietitian.
>> Quite. Himself has need the care of the lovely paramedics and their
>> bags of magic several times. We've had blood sugar readings off the
>> bottom of the scale... Never QUITE need the hospital, but it's been
>> close.
>> On the other hand, he hasn't suffered any of the long-tem effects of
>> HIGH blood sugar, such as the circulatory problems, blindness and
>> gangrene that afflicted my father's stepmother. It's a tightrope that
>> you need to learn to manage, but with the supervision of experts. And
>> that means experts in the management of diabetes, not your general
>> practitioner.
>
> At this point, the notion is to prevent diabetes. DH's blood sugar is
> high, but not so high as to be diabetic....yet. If he can ward it off,
> that's all to the good. It's in his family, his great-grandfather had
> it. Just as glaucoma is in his family. There was "blind granny" and
> one of his sisters has it. He really should have been more selective
> about his parents, shouldn't he?
Indeed. Himself is Type 1, though, not Type 2. I think it's easier to
manage Type 1 diabetes in most cases.
--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
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Posted by Samatha Hill -- take out TRASH on August 2, 2009, 6:40 pm
Kate XXXXXX wrote:
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> Indeed. Himself is Type 1, though, not Type 2. I think it's easier to
> manage Type 1 diabetes in most cases.
IIRC type 2 can be managed with insulin also in extreme cases, but
around here, at least, the doctors I type for prefer to see them managed
on oral meds if possible.
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Posted by Pogonip on August 2, 2009, 6:53 pm
Kate XXXXXX wrote:
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> Pogonip wrote:
>> At this point, the notion is to prevent diabetes. DH's blood sugar is
>> high, but not so high as to be diabetic....yet. If he can ward it
>> off, that's all to the good. It's in his family, his
>> great-grandfather had it. Just as glaucoma is in his family. There
>> was "blind granny" and one of his sisters has it. He really should
>> have been more selective about his parents, shouldn't he?
>
> Indeed. Himself is Type 1, though, not Type 2. I think it's easier to
> manage Type 1 diabetes in most cases.
>
Type 1 is what we call juvenile diabetes, isn't it? The kind you're
born with?
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/
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>> Pogonip wrote:
>>> As I understand our doc's thinking, he wants to try this
>>> for three months to see what changes show up in the next
>>> blood test. I sure hope he doesn't have any notions of a
>>> life-long program like this. I'd have to pack DH's bags
>>> before I shove him out the door. ;-)
>> I had friends whose mom managed her diabetes (not sure if
>> it was type 1 or type 2) totally with diet and exercise.
>> She had a (non-electric) treadmill at home and when her
>> BS's were high, she had some formula to walk on it for so
>> long in order to get them to drop. It was a lot of work
>> for her because she had a full-time job, but it was worth
>> it.
>
> Diabetics have to be very careful not to push their blood
> glucose too low. My DH went into convulsions, and ended up
> in the ER, after a normal dose of insulin, followed by not
> quite enough food, and then more exercise than he was
> accustomed to. The doctors told us that he could have died,
> it (hypoglycemia) was actually much more acutely dangerous
> than moderately high glucose.
>
> I'm not advocating against exercise, but I AM advocating
> Joanne and her DH get some really expert advice, preferably
> from an endocrinologist and dietitian.
>