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OT but curious about 'Web Portals' FarmI 03-28-2008
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Posted by FarmI on March 28, 2008, 4:33 pm
The other day I asked a question about what is wrong with posting to the
list by way of 'web portals' (not that I had even heard the term till it was
used here).

I didn't get an answer but I would really like to know. It's costing me a
packet to keep 2 ISPs fed and watered but I persist as only one of them (the
dreaded dial up service) offers a newsgroups option. I'd love to drop this
service but have clung on because of the newsgroups provision.



Posted by BEI Design on March 28, 2008, 5:12 pm
FarmI wrote:
> The other day I asked a question about what is wrong with
> posting to the list

This isn't a "list", it's Usenet.
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/

> by way of 'web portals' (not that I
> had even heard the term till it was used here).
>
> I didn't get an answer but I would really like to know.
> It's costing me a packet to keep 2 ISPs fed and watered
> but I persist as only one of them (the dreaded dial up
> service) offers a newsgroups option. I'd love to drop
> this service but have clung on because of the newsgroups
> provision.

$3.94/month for a Supernews feed would probably be cheaper
than the second ISP:
http://www.supernews.com/indi/

NAYY,

Beverly



Posted by FarmI on March 29, 2008, 2:26 am
> FarmI wrote:
>> The other day I asked a question about what is wrong with
>> posting to the list
>
> This isn't a "list", it's Usenet.
> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/

Sloppy wording. I do know the difference.

>> by way of 'web portals' (not that I
>> had even heard the term till it was used here).
>>
>> I didn't get an answer but I would really like to know. It's costing me a
>> packet to keep 2 ISPs fed and watered
>> but I persist as only one of them (the dreaded dial up
>> service) offers a newsgroups option. I'd love to drop
>> this service but have clung on because of the newsgroups
>> provision.
>
> $3.94/month for a Supernews feed would probably be cheaper than the second
> ISP:
> http://www.supernews.com/indi/

I'm sure there are any number of things I could do, but I still don't know
what the problem is with using a 'web portal' to post.

Is there a problem? Is it real or just something people like to whinge
about when feeling particularly curmudgeonly or when the Moon is in the
wrong quarter?



Posted by BEI Design on March 29, 2008, 2:44 am
FarmI wrote:
> in message
> > FarmI wrote:
> > > The other day I asked a question about what is wrong
> > > with posting to the list
> >
> > This isn't a "list", it's Usenet.
> > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/
>
> Sloppy wording. I do know the difference.
>
> > > by way of 'web portals' (not that I
> > > had even heard the term till it was used here).
> > >
> > > I didn't get an answer but I would really like to
> > > know. It's costing me a packet to keep 2 ISPs fed and
> > > watered but I persist as only one of them (the dreaded
> > > dial up
> > > service) offers a newsgroups option. I'd love to drop
> > > this service but have clung on because of the
> > > newsgroups provision.
> >
> > $3.94/month for a Supernews feed would probably be
> > cheaper than the second ISP:
> > http://www.supernews.com/indi/
>
> I'm sure there are any number of things I could do, but I
> still don't know what the problem is with using a 'web
> portal' to post.
> Is there a problem? Is it real or just something people
> like to whinge about when feeling particularly
> curmudgeonly or when the Moon is in the wrong quarter?

I don't know about sewgirls.com TOS/AUP in terms of their
cutting off abusers (although it is one of the ugliest sites
I've ever seen), but Google will do absolutely nothing to
terminate abusive users. Posting through one's own ISP,
there is a certain restraint brought about by the knowledge
one may lose connectivity if too many complaints are filed.
However, people use Google and gmail to spam, post off-topic
garbage (see the new thread "Email me your tit size" for an
example) with no fear at all of losing internet access.
Google has become the biggest spam/abuse-facilitator on the
internet, IMHO. I would hate to miss interesting messages
from regulars on alt.sewing, but I'm really tempted to
kilfile all google-gmail-sewgirls messages.

JMHO,

Beverly, why no, I'm not at all curmudgeonly tonight....



Posted by Joy Beeson on March 30, 2008, 12:52 am
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:44:18 -0700, "BEI Design"

> I would hate to miss interesting messages
> from regulars on alt.sewing, but I'm really tempted to
> kilfile all google-gmail-sewgirls messages.

I already have, since I also belong to a few medium-traffic newsgroups
that are very attractive to malicious posters. I usually notice when
a regular has been marked read and download the post anyway -- but
that's because people who aren't on gmail have responded to the post.
If *everybody* killfiles google etc., then there won't be any
responses to attract my attention.

I have put a "mark for retrieval" filter on bholbrook1@gmail.com to
counter-act the kill filter, but this idea has obvious limitations.

Joy Beeson
--
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ -- sewing
http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange
The above message is a Usenet post.
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.


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