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Posted by FarmI on March 29, 2008, 6:13 pm
>> I'm sure there are any number of things I could do, but I
>> still don't know what the problem is with using a 'web
>> portal' to post.
>
> it is much slower. most thread very poorly, if at all. you
> cannot filter spam, or posters you don't want to see.
> in the case of Google, they track what you view (to target
> the ads, they say)
> because portals are "free" they attract the sorts who like to
> cause mischief that gets them kicked off a real ISP, such as
> massive crossposting, posting binaries in non-binary groups,
> spamming, trolling etc.
LOL. Are you saying that Jon Ball didn't use a 'real ISP'? When it comes
to trolls, he must have been a blue ribbon, serial and non stop troller. I
think I only ever saw about 2 non troll posts from him in the time that he
posted to any of the groups I saw him in and given that he posted non stop
for about 14 hours a day, that is some record. Interestingly,he has now
popped up in a gardening groups you and I both read and has made at least 2
non troll posts. Perhaps he has finally had some counselling about his
problems with being so short.
because the portals don't police this
> stuff, those of us who get tired of it easily just killfile
> anything from that domain, so pretty soon the only people you
> can 'talk' to are those on the same portal, or those who don't
> know how to killfile.
> personally i'm ><this close to killfiling anything posted
> through googlegroups.
I don't think I can do a bulk plonk such as that, but then I find that just
the occasional plonk of individuals seems to work for me.
Thanks Lee.
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Posted by The Wanderer on March 30, 2008, 3:21 am
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:13:12 +1100, FarmI wrote:
> I don't think I can do a bulk plonk such as that, but then I find that just
> the occasional plonk of individuals seems to work for me.
Ah, then the time has come to move on from OE as your news reader! Yes, I
know it works, yes I know it's much easier to carry on with something
you're comfortable with, but......
When you move to a purpose-built and fully functioned news reader you'll
wonder why on earth you stuck with OE for so long. Honest! I moved away
from OE to 40tude Dialog in 2003. How can I be precise? I keep all emails
in a special folder that have passwords, etc associated with them. :-)
Dialog has more features than you shake a stick at, including the ability
to semi-automate it using scripts. Personally I've not found it necessary,
but its filtering abilities are superb.
There are quite a few other news readers out there. Most of them are
freeware or shareware. They all have their champions, people who will tell
you why the one they use is better than any other. You have the discomfort
of having to learn how to drive it properly, but once you get over that
particular hurdle you begin to appreciate why so many long-term posters
criticise OE as a news reader.
FWIW, I also moved away from OE as an email client, in favour of T'bird,
that was after I had been using Dialog for a while. I also ditched IE in
favour of Firefox, although I do keep IE on my pc as some sites still don't
like FF, but those are few and far between these days, even M$ seems to
accept FF on its pages.
I tried setting up news accounts in T'bird in parallel with Dialog, but I
wasn't overly impressed with it as a news reader. Conversely, Dialog can be
used as an email client, but I like to keep the two functions completely
separate.
And finally..... :-)
With a new laptop coming next week for my wife, I've decided to go with as
much open source software as possible on that.
--
Richard - The older I get, the better I used to be!
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net
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Posted by Pogonip on March 30, 2008, 4:04 am
The Wanderer wrote:
> FWIW, I also moved away from OE as an email client, in favour of T'bird,
> that was after I had been using Dialog for a while. I also ditched IE in
> favour of Firefox, although I do keep IE on my pc as some sites still don't
> like FF, but those are few and far between these days, even M$ seems to
> accept FF on its pages.
That's no longer necessary, since there is now a FF add-on for those sites:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/
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Posted by enigma on March 30, 2008, 10:49 am
> The Wanderer wrote:
>> FWIW, I also moved away from OE as an email client, in
>> favour of T'bird, that was after I had been using Dialog
>> for a while. I also ditched IE in favour of Firefox,
>> although I do keep IE on my pc as some sites still don't
>> like FF, but those are few and far between these days,
>> even M$ seems to accept FF on its pages.
>
> That's no longer necessary, since there is now a FF add-on
> for those sites:
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419
well, except for the fact that NT, XP & Vista all use IE to
find things on the desktop... if you remove IE, you're going
to cripple the entire operating system.
you don't have to ever use it as a web browser, but removing
it is a really bad idea.
lee <but it's not a monopoly>
--
Last night while sitting in my chair
I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.
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Posted by Pogonip on March 30, 2008, 5:26 pm
enigma wrote:
>
> well, except for the fact that NT, XP & Vista all use IE to
> find things on the desktop... if you remove IE, you're going
> to cripple the entire operating system.
> you don't have to ever use it as a web browser, but removing
> it is a really bad idea.
> lee <but it's not a monopoly>
I don't remove it, I just never open it anymore.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/
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