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Old...ancient Machines skababe51 02-29-2008
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Posted by Pogonip on March 2, 2008, 3:39 pm
Ron Anderson wrote:
>
>>Joy Beeson wrote:
>>
>>>I bought my main machine new in 1964. Time I took it in for a tune-up,
>>>though -- the clutch is stuck and I
>>>can't wind bobbins. But I don't want to do without it that long. I
>>>never quite mastered the treadle, and the machine I found in the barn
>>>got there by being a machine of the sort newbies here are always
>>>having to be talked out of buying.
>>>
>>>Joy Beeson
>>
>>Do you mean the gnurled knob on the handwheel? If you can unscrew it,
>>clean it out, take out the pronged washer and clean it, too (making a
>>mental note of which way the prongs go), then grease it - not oil. If you
>>don't have sewing machine lube, you can use a bit of petroleum jelly, put
>>the whole thing back together and check to see if it works. If it doesn't,
>>unscrew the knob again and give the washer a 1/3 turn, and try again.
>>IIRC, it has three prongs, one of those is the right position.
>>
>>If it won't unscrew, start putting a big of oil, WD-40, or Break-free in
>>the gap and letting it work until the knob comes free.
>>--
>>Joanne
>>stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
>>http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/
>
>
> Very poor idea to use grease on the hand wheel as a lubricant. Oil is the
> best thing to use.
> The reason is Grease will set up faster and harder than oil.
>
Thanks, Ron. I usually find a bit of grease inside the handwheel on my
oldies, so it seemed like I should clean off the old and replace with
clean, new grease. Same with the cast-iron gears.

--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/

Posted by Ron Anderson on March 3, 2008, 8:01 am

>> Very poor idea to use grease on the hand wheel as a lubricant. Oil is the
>> best thing to use.
>> The reason is Grease will set up faster and harder than oil.
>>
> Thanks, Ron. I usually find a bit of grease inside the handwheel on my
> oldies, so it seemed like I should clean off the old and replace with
> clean, new grease. Same with the cast-iron gears.
>
> --
> Joanne
> stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
> http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/

Gears yes. Hand wheel no.
You might see some grease about the hand wheel on the 15-91 and 201 with the
gear drives due to cast off from the motor gear.

--

Ron Anderson A1 Sewing Machine
18 Dingman Rd., Sand Lake, NY 12153
518-469-5133
http://www.a1sewingmachine.com



Posted by Gogarty on March 3, 2008, 9:13 am
Hoo boy! I was going to mention that we have an antique White machine
listed on eBay but from the tone of these comments I might as well turn
it into a boat anchor. Well, nothing lost. It was given to us and is
just taking up space. But if curiosity gets the better of you, it's item
number 140211411340. Have a look.


Posted by Pogonip on March 3, 2008, 2:39 pm
Gogarty wrote:
> Hoo boy! I was going to mention that we have an antique White machine
> listed on eBay but from the tone of these comments I might as well turn
> it into a boat anchor. Well, nothing lost. It was given to us and is
> just taking up space. But if curiosity gets the better of you, it's item
> number 140211411340. Have a look.
>

What you have is an "embossed" White Family Rotary, which while not
exactly rare, is a desirable machine. The motor is separate from the
machine, and can be replaced if it is defective. The cabinet is not
unusual, either, but those old cabinets are "real furniture" not the
prestwood and laminate of modern cabinets. Your starting price is
reasonable and if there are two people within driving distance, the
price will go up a little. If not, well, you won't do so well. It
might be worth relisting if you get no bids at all.

As far as I know, White was the only company to make a machine head with
the embossed pattern in it. It is very attractive, I have one of them.
The rare one is the one they did in bronze. Most of us have the black
finish one.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/

Posted by Gogarty on March 3, 2008, 3:05 pm
>
>
>Gogarty wrote:
>> Hoo boy! I was going to mention that we have an antique White machine
>> listed on eBay but from the tone of these comments I might as well turn
>> it into a boat anchor. Well, nothing lost. It was given to us and is
>> just taking up space. But if curiosity gets the better of you, it's item
>> number 140211411340. Have a look.
>>
>
>What you have is an "embossed" White Family Rotary, which while not
>exactly rare, is a desirable machine. The motor is separate from the
>machine, and can be replaced if it is defective. The cabinet is not
>unusual, either, but those old cabinets are "real furniture" not the
>prestwood and laminate of modern cabinets. Your starting price is
>reasonable and if there are two people within driving distance, the
>price will go up a little. If not, well, you won't do so well. It
>might be worth relisting if you get no bids at all.
>
>As far as I know, White was the only company to make a machine head with
>the embossed pattern in it. It is very attractive, I have one of them.
> The rare one is the one they did in bronze. Most of us have the black
>finish one.
>--
>Joanne
>stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
>http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/

Why, thank you so much! It was given to us so there is no loss other than
the cost of listing. I did have a query from a man in Oklahoma who restores
old machines, He was interested only in the machine, not the cabinet. But
he never bid. A woman here in Manhattan also expressed interest and was
coming to our home to personally inspect it. Said she was fixer-uper type
of persone and looked on it as a project. But she never showed nor bid
either. So this time is a relisting.

Personally, I prefer real flea markets and the like to eBay. All those
millions of people on eBay are no use to you if they don't look at your
offering wheras in a live flea market you can get hundreds of poeple looking
and touching.


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