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Posted by AK&DStrohl on November 20, 2006, 10:26 pm
I'm looking for a very rare creature. Yes, I've Googled it until I was
googling.
A northern region, or any region that can be found, Swiss traditional folk
dress.
Casually refered to as a dirndl but more properly called a tracht
(trachten=plural).
Modern, sexy inaccurate "dirndls" can be found everywhere. And I'm looking
for a pattern not a premade (but not for my figure) dress and usually wrong
styling.
I've also looked in most costume websites they only point back to the
premade sexy stuff.
I'm still looking myself,
AK in PA
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Posted by Kate Dicey on November 21, 2006, 3:06 am
AK&DStrohl wrote:
> I'm looking for a very rare creature. Yes, I've Googled it until I was
> googling.
> A northern region, or any region that can be found, Swiss traditional folk
> dress.
> Casually refered to as a dirndl but more properly called a tracht
> (trachten=plural).
> Modern, sexy inaccurate "dirndls" can be found everywhere. And I'm looking
> for a pattern not a premade (but not for my figure) dress and usually wrong
> styling.
> I've also looked in most costume websites they only point back to the
> premade sexy stuff.
> I'm still looking myself,
> AK in PA
>
>
How about something like this:
http://www.patternsoftime.com/proddetail.asp?prod=FW123
Burda used to do one, but I cannot find it on their site... I find the
site very slow to use, but here you are: http://www.burdamode.com/
--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
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Posted by Ursula Noeker on November 21, 2006, 4:55 am
"Kate Dicey" wrote...
> AK&DStrohl wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a very rare creature. Yes, I've Googled it until I was
>> googling.
>> A northern region, or any region that can be found, Swiss traditional
>> folk dress.
>> Casually refered to as a dirndl but more properly called a tracht
>> (trachten=plural).
>> Modern, sexy inaccurate "dirndls" can be found everywhere. And I'm
>> looking for a pattern not a premade (but not for my figure) dress and
>> usually wrong styling.
>> I've also looked in most costume websites they only point back to the
>> premade sexy stuff.
>> I'm still looking myself,
>> AK in PA
> How about something like this:
> http://www.patternsoftime.com/proddetail.asp?prod=FW123
I guess that's nice for a basic. Do you know how the whole thing has to look
in the end? I mean, embroidery, acessories and so on? After googling I found
that, indeed (and as I had vaguely remembered), the Swiss Tracht is more
modest when it comes to waist and neckline. Perhaps you've already come
across these sites, but if not, it might help you with the look.
http://www.trachtenvereinigung.ch/de,stv,5,56.html
http://www.kostueme.ch/neutrachten.htm
Yes, they haven't got any patterns, too, but I find them very interesting.
It seems that the Swiss bodice is not really a bodice at all. Nothing to
show off you figure, more like to hide it. However, if you mail the guys at
the first link, perhaps they'll be able to send you a pattern. That is, if
it's not an urgent case with you. ;-)
Good luck with you hunt,
U. (from Germany but with Swiss relatives[! ;-)])
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Posted by Liz on November 21, 2006, 5:46 am
> AK&DStrohl wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a very rare creature. Yes, I've Googled it until I was
>> googling.
>> A northern region, or any region that can be found, Swiss traditional
>> folk dress.
>> Casually refered to as a dirndl but more properly called a tracht
>> (trachten=plural).
>> Modern, sexy inaccurate "dirndls" can be found everywhere. And I'm
>> looking for a pattern not a premade (but not for my figure) dress and
>> usually wrong styling.
>> I've also looked in most costume websites they only point back to the
>> premade sexy stuff.
>> I'm still looking myself,
>> AK in PA
> How about something like this:
> http://www.patternsoftime.com/proddetail.asp?prod=FW123
>
> Burda used to do one, but I cannot find it on their site... I find the
> site very slow to use, but here you are: http://www.burdamode.com/
>
> --
> Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
> Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
> http://www.katedicey.co.uk
> Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
The drawings for the Folkwear patterns (as in the patternsoftime link) look
very pretty, but to me don't give much idea of how the finished garments
will look. For a better idea, see Folkwear's own site, in this case
http://www.folkwear.com/123.html.
Cheers,
Liz
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Posted by AK&DStrohl on November 21, 2006, 8:47 pm
>>> A northern region, or any region that can be found, Swiss traditional
>>> folk dress.
>>> I've also looked in most costume websites they only point back to the
>>> premade sexy stuff.
>>> AK in PA
>> How about something like this:
>> http://www.patternsoftime.com/proddetail.asp?prod=FW123
>>
>> Burda used to do one, but I cannot find it on their site... I find the
>> site very slow to use, but here you are: http://www.burdamode.com/
>
> The drawings for the Folkwear patterns (as in the patternsoftime link)
> look very pretty, but to me don't give much idea of how the finished
> garments will look. For a better idea, see Folkwear's own site, in this
> case http://www.folkwear.com/123.html.
These are the results of the labor:
http://www.burdamode.com/8448_Dirndl,1000003-1275114-1128998-1005105-1005124-1005130,enEN.html
This is a start. The breasts aren't sticking out or pushed up to the moon.
But I'm not sure of the princess seaming.
http://www.folkwear.com/123.html
When you see the made up costumes they look better than the artists'
rendering.
Again I'm not sure darts were used circa 100-200+ years ago.
I'll have to read up on altering out both of the above .
http://www.tostmann.at/en/tostmann.htm
This page had a reference to home sewing but it's apparant you have to go
there to get the fabric and it seems you have to know how to make up a
pattern from pictures. But I'll ask them any way.
http://www.tostmann.at/en/dirndl_klassiker.htm
I like the ones on the left top, second and last.
http://www.mabi.de/org/uvtm/bilder/bild5.jpg
The one on the left is good.
http://www.burdamode.com/History_&_Fantasy,1000003-1275114-1128999-1129006-1129019-1004052,enEN.html
Looking at this again and looking past the gaudy material this has a
possiblity of working but I'd still have to raise the Meider ("vest")
neckline a few inches. And a working front opening skip the zipper in the
rear.
>however looking at real photo's of trachten I see that they are really high
>necked sleeveless button up tops
The Tostmann site has a page on the 'home sewing' link and there is an
picture
there of one up to the neck. But that 'home sewing' is a *slight*
misnomer.
There was another site refered to dealing directly with Swiss costumes.
From the little I made out this could be a good site but I'll have to get my
german translation program running.
Thanks for your help,
AK in PA
Now I really have to tackle those dishes.
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