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Posted by Ron Anderson on May 20, 2006, 8:28 am
First I am the one who eluded to it as "rubbish" and you in attempting to
prove your point proved ours. I guess you did not read your first post
stating that Elna had owned them at some point. Pure and utter rubbish.
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Ron Anderson
A1 Sewing Machine
PO Box 60
Sand Lake, NY 12153
518-469-5133
http://www.a1sewingmachine.com
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> <Hannas Mum> wrote in message
>> On Fri, 19 May 2006 20:28:15 GMT, "Ron Anderson"
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>> >Where did you get that rubbish?
>> Yea, weird isn't it. Bet she also believes the one about pointing the
>> machine North so it will sew properly......
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> No I do not, and keep your snide remarks to yourself. If you wish to
> dispute the accuracy of my statement, that is another matter....
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> .Viking dealer told me that
>> one in Victoria BC about 2 years ago. Could write a book on the
>> garbage that has been said about Pfaff.
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> Since one does not work for Pfaff nor are privy to the details of the
> company sale, one relies upon details as related.
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> The following comes from Pfaff's own website:
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> "In and outIn 1988 the lawyer, Dr. Schuppli, a member of the PFAFF
> family, acquired 52% of the share capital of the G.M. Pfaff AG, and in
> 1993 it was possible to introduce the new conception for a new concern
> structure through the takeover of 72% of the share capital by Semi-Tech
> (Global) Co. Ltd. In 1996 Pfaff reorganised the marketing department
> with an area concept. Since then, following the motto, proximity breeds
> acceptance, regional sales organisations have been supporting the
> structures of the agents, who work independently to a great extent.
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> In 1997 the SINGER/PFAFF-concern was created through the takeover of
> 80.5 % of the shares by the Semitech subsidiary, Singer. A restructuring
> programme was started, which involved the outsourcing of high-wage and
> technically less demanding process sections and products to
> Podolsk/Russia and Zhuhai/China. Highly specialised and high-tech
> industrial sewing machines, as well as essential, particularly
> sophisticated components were still manufactured and assembled with the
> know-how of the staff at the location in Germany. In 1999 the concern
> got into a threatening management situation which led to the separation
> of PFAFF and Singer.
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> Consequently PFAFF concentrated on its core competence again - the
> production and distribution of industrial sewing and welding machine
> technology. In 1999 the domestic sewing machine division in Karlsruhe
> was sold to the Swedish group, Husqvarna Viking."
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http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:Y8LTIw-u2loJ:www.pfaff-industrial.de/pfaff/de/company/history/index_html/switchLanguage%3Fset_language%3Den+Pfaff+Sewing+Sold&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=8
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> So take great care madam, before eluding to my posts as "garbage".
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> the one that persists is that
>> Singer OWNED Pfaff in the late 90's. Nothing could be farther from
>> the truth. However, now they ARE managed by Singer guys. Good
>> people too. Very helpful and willing to do some work to get us parts,
>> at least here in Canada they are trying to help.
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>> VSM (Viking Sewing Machines) did trash a bunch of parts, machines and
>> things in Toronto and when they closed the plants in German in 2000.
>> But ELNA???????? that's a new one. WE got lots of 'stuff' from
>> dumpster's and nothing went to collectors or dealers. Dealers really
>> suffered during this time. I see lots of the dumpster divers on eBay.
>> Singer seems to be doing a good job now and we have had no
>> interruption in service so far, but the old VSM is a really grumpy
>> bunch now. Singer managers and tech's in a VSM office.....VSM guys
>> don't like it much, but they are old friends of the one remaining
>> Pfaff employee from the old days. .
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>> Old Pfaff Pforum is a good place to ask for a manual.
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