Pfaff Variamatic 1117 Sewing machine help - I need a manual

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Pfaff Variamatic 1117 Sewing machine help - I need a manual HSAJW 05-18-2006
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Posted by BEI Design on May 20, 2006, 10:58 pm

> BEI Design wrote:
>>
>> Karen, I sometimes feel like I'm the last person alive who loves
>> Singer.
>
> I also love the *old* Singers. Just not the new lower-end machines.

Well, there may have been "lower end" machines in 1960 when I bought
my 401A, I really don't know. As I recall, I paid over $300 for that
machine, at a time I was making $37.00 per week (8+ weeks of pre-tax
income). Let's see, my current income is in the neighborhood of
$675.00 per week, so a machine of similar quality would be about
$5,400. Yup, that sounds about right, maybe even a little high.

Anyone wanting a "new" machine for $200 is bound to be disappointed
with the quality. That would be equivalent of trying to find a
machine in 1960 for under $24.00. I know I wouldn't have touched one
selling at that price, even though I was struggling financially.

Unfortunately, there is a *demand* for SMs in that price range, look
at all the posts here from people wanting a machine for "under $500"
or whatever.

Beverly




Posted by Hannas Mum on May 20, 2006, 8:37 am
No where in this old statement is there mention of Elna. Also it does
state that Semi Tech was the purchaser of Pfaff, not Singer. AND you
did not go quite far enough. Here is what occurred in 2005/2006
also from the web site:

AFFILIATES OF KOHLBERG & COMPANY, L.L.C. ACQUIRE VSM GROUP

TRANSACTION UNITES SEWING INDUSTRIES LEADING COMPANIES:
SINGER WORLDWIDE AND VSM GROUP

Mt. Kisco, NY, February 13, 2006 – Affiliates of Kohlberg & Company,
LLC (“Kohlberg”), a leading U.S. private equity firm specializing in
middle-market investing, announced today that it has completed the
acquisition of VSM Group Holding AB (“VSM”) for an undisclosed figure.
VSM is a leading supplier of high-end consumer sewing machines and
accessories under the Husqvarna Viking and Pfaff brands. Affiliates of
Kohlberg already control the well-known Singer brand of household
sewing machines. The combined company has taken the name SVP Holdings
reflecting its ownership of the Singer, Viking and Pfaff brands.

Don Fletcher, who joined Singer following Kohlberg’s investment in
September 2004, will become CEO and President of SVP Holdings. The
executive management team of SVP Holdings will include representatives
from both VSM and Singer. Former CEO of VSM, Jorgen Johansson, is now
a senior adviser and member of the Board of Directors of SVP Holdings.

Don Fletcher, commented: “This transaction unites two of the sewing
industry’s leading companies. We have established an outstanding,
integrated management team that includes senior representatives from
both VSM and Singer. Our goal, as a team, will be to provide our
distributors, customers, and consumers with industry leading product,
education, and standards of service. Together, our two businesses will
be better positioned to respond to the needs of consumers worldwide.”


Again these are holdling companines. The new corporation is called
SVP-----Singer Viking Pfaff and yes we do answer directly to Singer
management. Jorgensen of VSM has little or nothing to really do in
this new company. VSM was in terrible financial health prior to the
selling of the entire operation to Singers holding company.













Since one does not work for Pfaff nor are privy to the details of the
>company sale, one relies upon details as related.
>
>The following comes from Pfaff's own website:
>
>"In and outIn 1988 the lawyer, Dr. Schuppli, a member of the PFAFF
>family, acquired 52% of the share capital of the G.M. Pfaff AG, and in
>1993 it was possible to introduce the new conception for a new concern
>structure through the takeover of 72% of the share capital by Semi-Tech
>(Global) Co. Ltd. In 1996 Pfaff reorganised the marketing department
>with an area concept. Since then, following the motto, proximity breeds
>acceptance, regional sales organisations have been supporting the
>structures of the agents, who work independently to a great extent.
>
>In 1997 the SINGER/PFAFF-concern was created through the takeover of
>80.5 % of the shares by the Semitech subsidiary, Singer. A restructuring
>programme was started, which involved the outsourcing of high-wage and
>technically less demanding process sections and products to
>Podolsk/Russia and Zhuhai/China. Highly specialised and high-tech
>industrial sewing machines, as well as essential, particularly
>sophisticated components were still manufactured and assembled with the
>know-how of the staff at the location in Germany. In 1999 the concern
>got into a threatening management situation which led to the separation
>of PFAFF and Singer.
>
>Consequently PFAFF concentrated on its core competence again - the
>production and distribution of industrial sewing and welding machine
>technology. In 1999 the domestic sewing machine division in Karlsruhe
>was sold to the Swedish group, Husqvarna Viking."
>
>Full text here:
>http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:Y8LTIw-u2loJ:www.pfaff-industrial.de/pfaff/de/company/history/index_html/switchLanguage%3Fset_language%3Den+Pfaff+Sewing+Sold&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=8
>
>So take great care madam, before eluding to my posts as "garbage".
>
>Candide
>
>
>the one that persists is that
>> Singer OWNED Pfaff in the late 90's. Nothing could be farther from
>> the truth. However, now they ARE managed by Singer guys. Good
>> people too. Very helpful and willing to do some work to get us parts,
>> at least here in Canada they are trying to help.
>>
>> VSM (Viking Sewing Machines) did trash a bunch of parts, machines and
>> things in Toronto and when they closed the plants in German in 2000.
>> But ELNA???????? that's a new one. WE got lots of 'stuff' from
>> dumpster's and nothing went to collectors or dealers. Dealers really
>> suffered during this time. I see lots of the dumpster divers on eBay.
>> Singer seems to be doing a good job now and we have had no
>> interruption in service so far, but the old VSM is a really grumpy
>> bunch now. Singer managers and tech's in a VSM office.....VSM guys
>> don't like it much, but they are old friends of the one remaining
>> Pfaff employee from the old days. .
>>
>> Old Pfaff Pforum is a good place to ask for a manual.
>


Posted by Hannas Mum on May 19, 2006, 8:52 pm
wrote:

>Your Pfaff model was made when "Pfaff" was Pfaff. Sadly Pfaff was sold
>to the Elna company ages ago and back stock of the older models (parts,
>spares, manuals, etc) was simply trashed or destroyed. Only stock that
>remains is in the hands of dealers or collectors.
It continues to amaze me the lies that are told about Pfaff. What DID
they ever do to deserve this rubbish.

Posted by Bobbie Sews More on May 20, 2006, 1:22 pm
I have a Pfaff 1471 made around 1985 and I love it. It makes a beautiful
stitch. I just haven't had time lately to really use it to it's best
capabilities. Hopefully in a couple of months I can get back to sewing and
using the built in embroidery stitches .
Barbara in SC
"



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