Re: nylon swim shorts fabric help ?

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Re: nylon swim shorts fabric help ? Kay Lancaster 06-18-2008
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Posted by Kay Lancaster on June 18, 2008, 10:42 pm
> Label says %100 nylon shell. This nylon fabric is thin, light,
> woven, no stretch and feels very soft. The fabric is not crunchy
> or stiff or slick or slippery or polished and that was true when

Sounds like a good grade of Supplex nylon, perhaps lightly peached. Might be
Taslan, too, though -- both are "air textured" to imitate cotton. Some
Supplex is nicer than others, so samples can be useful. All I've bought
recently has come from Rose City Textiles, which is local (well, sort of!)
to me, but isn't easy to shop at via net any more. But you can call -- ask
Annette, the retail store manager -- 503 224 5666 ext 1111

Otherwise, try some of the "outdoor fabrics" sources that Penny Schwyn compiled:
http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/tips/sources.asp

Sews easily, doesn't much care for lots of UV unless specially treated.

Kay


>

Posted by robb on June 19, 2008, 10:14 am

wrote:
> > Label says %100 nylon shell. This nylon fabric is thin,
light,
> > woven, no stretch and feels very soft. The fabric is not
crunchy
> > or stiff or slick or slippery or polished and that was true
when
>
> Sounds like a good grade of Supplex nylon, perhaps lightly
peached. Might be
> Taslan, too, though -- both are "air textured" to imitate
cotton. Some
> Supplex is nicer than others, so samples can be useful. All
I've bought
> recently has come from Rose City Textiles, which is local
(well, sort of!)
> to me, but isn't easy to shop at via net any more. But you can
call -- ask
> Annette, the retail store manager -- 503 224 5666 ext 1111
>
> Otherwise, try some of the "outdoor fabrics" sources that Penny
Schwyn compiled:
> http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/tips/sources.asp
>
> Sews easily, doesn't much care for lots of UV unless specially
treated.
>
> Kay

Thanks Kay,

I will look at suplex at bit more closely.

I had compiled a list of various nylon fabrics (about 20 ?) out
of Schaeffer's sew any fabric book and other web sources but
none of the online fabric sources, i have tried, gives a good
closeup picture of the fabric so it is difficult to judge what is
closest to what i want.

How difficult is it to get a macro shot of the fabric so that one
can see the weave or texture etc ?

thanks again,
robb



Posted by Kay Lancaster on June 19, 2008, 5:42 pm
> How difficult is it to get a macro shot of the fabric so that one
> can see the weave or texture etc ?

Not at all difficult if you know how and have the equipment. e.g.:
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=19619635&uid=9417699
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=18806330&uid=9417699
I strongly suggest tent lighting for most. Those were taken with a handheld
Nikon Coolpix 4100 with a piece of milk jug held over the flash.

But Supplex and Taslanized nylons can be woven in a number of weaves --
though most seems to be a plain (tabby) weave. Your best bet is probably to
just compare some samples to your suit -- I'm sure not all Speedo suits
from three years ago were made of the same fabric (and even if it was all
from the same manufacturer, there are differences in hand between the same
fabric in different colors). Perceptible differences to the point that
a manufacturer will have slightly different patterns made for the red shorts
than the blue shorts, so they'll look the same.

Most of the specialty fabric stores will know their fabrics well enough that
they can tell you that #3409 is probably not what you want -- consider
#3405 or 3721 instead, once you tell them your basic wants and needs.
(It's one of the things I like about shopping at Rose City -- I can walk
in and tell Annette I need to make a lightweight but warm jacket for
someone in a wheelchair and it needs some stretch but not much, and btw,
needs to be waterproof, and what do they have? And suddenly fabric starts
appearing for my consideration, along with discussion of technical merits
or demerits of that fabrication. <g>)

Kay





Posted by robb on June 20, 2008, 2:48 pm

> > How difficult is it to get a macro shot of the fabric so that
one
> > can see the weave or texture etc ?
>
> Not at all difficult if you know how and have the equipment.
e.g.:
>
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=19619635&uid=9417699
>
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=18806330&uid=9417699
> I strongly suggest tent lighting for most. Those were taken
with a handheld
> Nikon Coolpix 4100 with a piece of milk jug held over the
flash.
>

Thanks Kay,

great shots showing good details
i guess the online fabric stores do not need to resort to such
measures or service to sell their *wears* :)


>
> But Supplex and Taslanized nylons can be woven in a number of
weaves --
> though most seems to be a plain (tabby) weave. Your best bet
is probably to
> just compare some samples to your suit -- I'm sure not all
Speedo suits
> from three years ago were made of the same fabric (and even if
it was all
> from the same manufacturer, there are differences in hand
between the same
> fabric in different colors). Perceptible differences to the
point that
> a manufacturer will have slightly different patterns made for
the red shorts
> than the blue shorts, so they'll look the same.
>

i understand and i ordered some samples.
I do not have much in the way of fabric stashes or samples
now i am thinking a collection of **basic fabric style** samples
might be a good resource to have around just to narrow a
selection then worry with the color and mill differences and
variations

>
> Most of the specialty fabric stores will know their fabrics
well enough that
> they can tell you that #3409 is probably not what you want --
consider
> #3405 or 3721 instead, once you tell them your basic wants and
needs.
> (It's one of the things I like about shopping at Rose City -- I
can walk
> in and tell Annette I need to make a lightweight but warm
jacket for
> someone in a wheelchair and it needs some stretch but not much,
and btw,
> needs to be waterproof, and what do they have? And suddenly
fabric starts
> appearing for my consideration, along with discussion of
technical merits
> or demerits of that fabrication. <g>)
>

ah well there is my trouble...
my fabric store experience is limited to to local bankrupt fabric
retailers or mega-marts where asking help usually results in
__________ .
(A. scowl, B. vague gesture, C. not much help, D. all the above
and more)

thanks again for the help Kay,
robb





Posted by Samantha Hill - remove TRASH t on June 20, 2008, 5:03 pm
Welcome to the wonderful, immensely satisfying world of learning to
order fabric online!!!!

robb wrote:

> my fabric store experience is limited to to local bankrupt fabric
> retailers or mega-marts where asking help usually results in
> __________ .
> (A. scowl, B. vague gesture, C. not much help, D. all the above
> and more)


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