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Replaced Upper Looper - no stitches will hold - Help dzrtblonde 08-10-2006
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Posted by on August 10, 2006, 7:21 pm
I broke the upper looper on my Singer Ultrlock 14SH 654 - I put in the
new one (expensive part - fyi) and now no stitches will stay in the
fabric. Maybe I have the looper in the wrong position? Does the upper
looper glide in front or in back of the needles?

Any assistance is appreciated.


Posted by Kate Dicey on August 11, 2006, 4:23 am
dzrtblonde@aol.com wrote:
> I broke the upper looper on my Singer Ultrlock 14SH 654 - I put in the
> new one (expensive part - fyi) and now no stitches will stay in the
> fabric. Maybe I have the looper in the wrong position? Does the upper
> looper glide in front or in back of the needles?
>
> Any assistance is appreciated.
>

In front. And you'll need to set the timing. Adjustments in sergers
are in parts of millimetres. They are usually set using an electronic
timer. This may need adjustment by a sewing machine engineer with the
right equipment.

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Posted by Ron Anderson on August 11, 2006, 2:52 pm
Actually it is looper positioning. Timing is entirely something else and
often confused. I do not know who is telling you those stories about
electronic timers but I would run away from them


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> dzrtblonde@aol.com wrote:
>> I broke the upper looper on my Singer Ultrlock 14SH 654 - I put in the
>> new one (expensive part - fyi) and now no stitches will stay in the
>> fabric. Maybe I have the looper in the wrong position? Does the upper
>> looper glide in front or in back of the needles?
>>
>> Any assistance is appreciated.
>>
>
> In front. And you'll need to set the timing. Adjustments in sergers are
> in parts of millimetres. They are usually set using an electronic timer.
> This may need adjustment by a sewing machine engineer with the right
> equipment.
>
> --
> Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
> Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
> http://www.katedicey.co.uk
> Click on Kate's Pages and explore!



Posted by Kate Dicey on August 11, 2006, 6:40 pm
Ron Anderson wrote:

> Actually it is looper positioning. Timing is entirely something else and
> often confused. I do not know who is telling you those stories about
> electronic timers but I would run away from them
>
>
I think I meant factory set. I know my engineer *has* one but usually
doesn't use it, or only starts with it and then moves on to experience...

I was also thinking that enough force to break a looper would mean that
one would at least need to CHECK the timing!

--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

Posted by Ron Anderson on August 12, 2006, 9:58 am
Timing adjustments on a serger are RARE. I have done one in 28 years. Looper
positioning on the other hand is very common.
Every one uses "Timing" as a catch all phrase in the sewing machine world. I
guess people seem to relate to it. I have worked at shops and seen others
tell people it was a timing issue, in reality they had the needle in
backwards.
I have never seen nor heard of an electronic device used on a serger or
sewing machine for timing adjustments or checking. I can not even see how it
would be possible to use such a device even if it did exist. people say all
sorts of things to add value to what ever it is they are selling you.


--
Ron Anderson A1 Sewing Machine
PO Box 60, Sand Lake, NY 12153
518-469-5133
http://www.singera1sewing.com
http://www.a1sewingmachine.com
> Ron Anderson wrote:
>
>> Actually it is looper positioning. Timing is entirely something else and
>> often confused. I do not know who is telling you those stories about
>> electronic timers but I would run away from them
>>
>>
> I think I meant factory set. I know my engineer *has* one but usually
> doesn't use it, or only starts with it and then moves on to experience...
>
> I was also thinking that enough force to break a looper would mean that
> one would at least need to CHECK the timing!
>
> --
> Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
> Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
> http://www.katedicey.co.uk
> Click on Kate's Pages and explore!



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