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Posted by Joy Beeson on May 10, 2008, 12:16 am
On Fri, 9 May 2008 20:19:02 +0100, "Mary Fisher"

> Er - what's a watch pocket?

A small pocket sewn inside another pocket, originally to hold a pocket
watch. I use mine to carry a key (with the pocket safety-pinned
shut), and I make two because I was always and forever putting the
watch pocket on the wrong side. Sometimes I pin the key into the
other pocket and carry a folded Federal Reserve Note in the watch
pocket.

You can see a watch pocket in the first picture at:

http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/~roughsewing/ASSEMBLY.HTM

Note that this was before I got the idea of catching the watch pocket
in the side seam, and also before I realized that I'd use fifty
percent less fabric if I cut my jeans out two pairs at a time.

Note also that I once again forgot that the right side is the inside,
and turned the hem on the broadfall pocket to the wrong side. I got
that right with the hemp pants -- and I'm using tape that almost
matches, so it wouldn't have mattered much.

(Pauses to get drip-dried tape out of the shower before DH gets dirty.
Naturally, the correct tape was the only bolt that didn't have a note
saying when it had been shrunk, so I had to boil it.)

Joy Beeson
--
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http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ -- sewing
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The above message is a Usenet post.
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.


Posted by Mary Fisher on May 10, 2008, 6:21 am

> On Fri, 9 May 2008 20:19:02 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
>
>> Er - what's a watch pocket?
>
> A small pocket sewn inside another pocket, originally to hold a pocket
> watch.

Ah! I see, thanks. Never knew what they were for, my father used to call
them ticket pockets and kept his tickets in them so that he could find it
easily if an inspector got on the bus or tram.

A son calls the little pocket in the rh pocket of jeans a 'johnny pocket'.
Large pockets inside jackets are usually called 'poachers' pockets'.

I like the idea of a passport pocket ...
>
> (Pauses to get drip-dried tape out of the shower before DH gets dirty.
> Naturally, the correct tape was the only bolt that didn't have a note
> saying when it had been shrunk, so I had to boil it.)

:-)

Thanks,

Mary



Posted by Phaedrine Stonebridge on May 10, 2008, 10:07 am

> Note also that I once again forgot that the right side is the inside,
> and turned the hem on the broadfall pocket to the wrong side.

Last time I saw the term "broadfall" was at the Amish store. I'm just
betting you know what petzing is too.

Phae
--
"The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time
with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson

Posted by Joy Beeson on May 10, 2008, 9:19 pm
On Sat, 10 May 2008 09:07:33 -0500, Phaedrine Stonebridge

> Last time I saw the term "broadfall" was at the Amish store. I'm just
> betting you know what petzing is too.

According to Google, it's a surname.

I did get the broadfall idea from a Friends pattern, but broadfall
pants were common farmers' clothes in the -- I think it was
seventeenth century, giving way to narrowfall pants in the eighteenth.
I never cared enough to track it down.

I did learn that there are broadfalls constructed on a different
principle, with a button-together yoke called "bearers" under the
flap, and pockets, if any, as an afterthought. The example I found on
the Web had a pocket like a vest pocket in one of the "bearers".

Just checked Wikipedia to see whether someone else had done the
research, but the only place "broadfall" appears is in the article on
U.S. Navy uniforms.

And Google served up my own web page. Plus some unsupported
assertions that broadfalls were popular from 1700 to the middle of the
nineteenth century. And one unsupported assertion that fashion
switched back and forth between broadfall and narrow fall whenever
people got bored. I'm none too sure what "narrow fall" is.

Joy Beeson
--
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ -- sewing
http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange
The above message is a Usenet post.
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.


Posted by Phaedrine Stonebridge on May 10, 2008, 10:55 pm

> On Sat, 10 May 2008 09:07:33 -0500, Phaedrine Stonebridge
>
> > Last time I saw the term "broadfall" was at the Amish store. I'm just
> > betting you know what petzing is too.
>
> According to Google, it's a surname.

Petzing is often done with a dull knife or bone scraper. It is a
technique used, on the white organdy caps worn by married Amish women,
to form tiny pleats and fullness in the cap. Without damaging the
fabric of course.

So many arts nearly lost....

> I did get the broadfall idea from a Friends pattern, but broadfall
> pants were common farmers' clothes in the -- I think it was
> seventeenth century, giving way to narrowfall pants in the eighteenth.
> I never cared enough to track it down.
>
> I did learn that there are broadfalls constructed on a different
> principle, with a button-together yoke called "bearers" under the
> flap, and pockets, if any, as an afterthought. The example I found on
> the Web had a pocket like a vest pocket in one of the "bearers".
>
> Just checked Wikipedia to see whether someone else had done the
> research, but the only place "broadfall" appears is in the article on
> U.S. Navy uniforms.
>
> And Google served up my own web page. Plus some unsupported
> assertions that broadfalls were popular from 1700 to the middle of the
> nineteenth century. And one unsupported assertion that fashion
> switched back and forth between broadfall and narrow fall whenever
> people got bored. I'm none too sure what "narrow fall" is.

There are some men's fashions I wish would come back. The high collar
and cravat for instance. :)

Phae
--
"The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time
with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson

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