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Posted by WZ on May 11, 2008, 7:00 pm
Well, I can't be too slow, as I plan to compete this costume in Columbus
in 2 weeks, but I've been working all day on a costume from the SkyNet
TV movie of 'Hogfather' by Terry Pratchett.

I'm doing Violet - a Tooth Fairy, and the ruffles are driving me batty!
Chiffon ruffles on everything! I'm all poked about with pins and
taking a dinner break before wading back in.

Wendy Zski

Posted by Mary Fisher on May 11, 2008, 5:17 am

> On Sat, 10 May 2008 09:07:33 -0500, Phaedrine Stonebridge
>
>> Last time I saw the term "broadfall" was at the Amish store. I'm just
>> betting you know what petzing is too.
>
> According to Google, it's a surname.
>
> I did get the broadfall idea from a Friends pattern, but broadfall
> pants were common farmers' clothes in the -- I think it was
> seventeenth century, giving way to narrowfall pants in the eighteenth.
> I never cared enough to track it down.

I've not heard the expression 'broadfall' but in Britain men's breeches from
the C17th to much later had a 'fall' as a front cover for their bits. It had
a button at both top corners. All men's breeks, from the peasant to monarch,
had a fall in the C18th, the only other way of wearing what we call trousers
had no opening at all. The fall was a progression from the cod piece. There
were no pockets.
>
Mary



Posted by Kay Lancaster on May 11, 2008, 11:42 am
> I've not heard the expression 'broadfall' but in Britain men's breeches from
> the C17th to much later had a 'fall' as a front cover for their bits. It had
> a button at both top corners. All men's breeks, from the peasant to monarch,
> had a fall in the C18th, the only other way of wearing what we call trousers
> had no opening at all. The fall was a progression from the cod piece. There
> were no pockets.

I haven't been able to pin down the difference between "broad fall" and
"narrow fall" exactly either, but the ones I've seen that were called
"narrow fall" by a museum docent had a fall width of about 6" -- the
edges of the front flap were about where you'd expect front darts on
modern pants. Broadfalls had flap basically from side seam to side seam.
http://www.northwestjournal.ca/VI6.htm has some narrowfalls showing some of
the inner construction.

There are some interesting garments out there on the web... this pair of
pants especially made me glad for modern developments in patternmaking.
On the other hand, they'd certainly not have the fitting issues some folks
obsess over:
http://www.rendezvousclothing.com/pant.html

Kay



>
>

Posted by BEI Design on May 11, 2008, 12:49 pm
Kay Lancaster wrote:

> There are some interesting garments out there on the
> web... this pair of pants especially made me glad for
> modern developments in patternmaking.
> On the other hand, they'd certainly not have the fitting
> issues some folks obsess over:
> http://www.rendezvousclothing.com/pant.html
>
> Kay

ROTFLOL! Those look *exactly* like the pants worn by the
crew on the USS Constitution (Old Ironsides) when we took
the tour last summer. I was dying to ask our guide (who was
in period uniform) if they were comfortable, but did not
want to embarrass him.

Beverly



Posted by Mary Fisher on May 12, 2008, 3:58 am

> Kay Lancaster wrote:
>
>> There are some interesting garments out there on the
>> web... this pair of pants especially made me glad for
>> modern developments in patternmaking.
>> On the other hand, they'd certainly not have the fitting
>> issues some folks obsess over:
>> http://www.rendezvousclothing.com/pant.html
>>
>> Kay
>
> ROTFLOL! Those look *exactly* like the pants worn by the crew on the USS
> Constitution (Old Ironsides) when we took the tour last summer. I was
> dying to ask our guide (who was in period uniform) if they were
> comfortable, but did not want to embarrass him.
>
> Beverly

They're exactly like the (knee-length) breeks Spouse wears when we're in
Georgian kit, he finds them extremely comfortable and far less hazardous
than a zipped opening ...

Mary
>
>



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