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Singer 301 John Taylor 01-19-2006
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Posted by John Taylor on January 19, 2006, 4:53 pm
I have a chance to obtain a Singer 301 installed in it's original
cabinet that was bought new in 1950. I don't know much about that
model but my web searches seem to indicate it is capable of heavy duty
sewing which is what I am looking for. I have a modern Janome for all
of the other type of sewing that I currently do but would like to
aquire a good heavy duty model for those jobs that are beyond the
ability of the Janome. What are the opinions of such a machine and what
would be a fair, ie high/low price, to offer the person selling it. It
is part of an estate from a woman who was a dedicated quilter of long
standing and is presumably in top working order as she used it up until
her death. Thanks for any input in this regard.


Posted by Ron Anderson on January 19, 2006, 5:31 pm
Please describe "heavy duty" in some detail.


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A1 Sewing Machine
PO Box 60
Sand Lake, NY 12153
518-469-5133
http://www.a1sewingmachine.com
>I have a chance to obtain a Singer 301 installed in it's original
> cabinet that was bought new in 1950. I don't know much about that
> model but my web searches seem to indicate it is capable of heavy duty
> sewing which is what I am looking for. I have a modern Janome for all
> of the other type of sewing that I currently do but would like to
> aquire a good heavy duty model for those jobs that are beyond the
> ability of the Janome. What are the opinions of such a machine and what
> would be a fair, ie high/low price, to offer the person selling it. It
> is part of an estate from a woman who was a dedicated quilter of long
> standing and is presumably in top working order as she used it up until
> her death. Thanks for any input in this regard.
>



Posted by John Taylor on January 19, 2006, 7:11 pm
Ron,
By "heavy duty" I mean levis material that has folded seams making for
a triple thickness and other similar weight jobs. lighter weight canvas
boat coverings and fitting covers and such. Not anything such as heavy
canvas sailmaking. I find that the mechanical Janome, while a versatile
machine for clothing and some quilting jobs, is not as up to the task
of doing the things mentioned as I would like. It will accomplish them
but it is a struggle. Hope this clarifies.


Posted by Hanna's Mum on January 19, 2006, 11:49 pm
On 19 Jan 2006 16:11:25 -0800, "John Taylor"

>Ron,
>By "heavy duty" I mean levis material that has folded seams making for
>a triple thickness and other similar weight jobs. lighter weight canvas
>boat coverings and fitting covers and such. Not anything such as heavy
>canvas sailmaking. I find that the mechanical Janome, while a versatile
>machine for clothing and some quilting jobs, is not as up to the task
>of doing the things mentioned as I would like. It will accomplish them
>but it is a struggle. Hope this clarifies.
Sounds like you hit the Industrial strength Singer 301 auction. These
and all the machines this guy sells are Domestic Home sewing
machines....NOT industrial strength at all. Please get thyself over
to the WeFixIt group and look at the discussion regarding this less
than honest description of the 301. They are in the $100.00 range and
higher now, because they are the perfect machine for quilting. I
have 4 and would not even consider putting any boat covering through
it.

For an example of unscrupulous sellers check out this guy. Ought to
be shot and p****d on for what he is doing. Selling ordinary home
sewing machines for outrageous prices as in this example. EBay
auction # 8252493665 There are 5 or 6 of these guys.
alcnational is currently the worst of the bunch even saying that a
Euro Pro was Industrial Strength.
Recently another on of these sold a badged Pfaff Janome that
originally retailed for about $200 as an Industrial strength machine
for over $400. Auction #8237984593
Several of the Yahoo groups are currently trying to get something done
about these people. Sorry for the rant but these guys are getting
away with fraud.
I am sure that Ron A. would most likely agree as he is a very honest
tech and dealer.

Posted by Kate Dicey on January 20, 2006, 5:36 am
Hanna's Mum wrote:
> On 19 Jan 2006 16:11:25 -0800, "John Taylor"
>
>
>>Ron,
>>By "heavy duty" I mean levis material that has folded seams making for
>>a triple thickness and other similar weight jobs. lighter weight canvas
>>boat coverings and fitting covers and such. Not anything such as heavy
>>canvas sailmaking. I find that the mechanical Janome, while a versatile
>>machine for clothing and some quilting jobs, is not as up to the task
>>of doing the things mentioned as I would like. It will accomplish them
>>but it is a struggle. Hope this clarifies.
>
> Sounds like you hit the Industrial strength Singer 301 auction. These
> and all the machines this guy sells are Domestic Home sewing
> machines....NOT industrial strength at all. Please get thyself over
> to the WeFixIt group and look at the discussion regarding this less
> than honest description of the 301. They are in the $100.00 range and
> higher now, because they are the perfect machine for quilting. I
> have 4 and would not even consider putting any boat covering through
> it.
>
> For an example of unscrupulous sellers check out this guy. Ought to
> be shot and p****d on for what he is doing. Selling ordinary home
> sewing machines for outrageous prices as in this example. EBay
> auction # 8252493665 There are 5 or 6 of these guys.
> alcnational is currently the worst of the bunch even saying that a
> Euro Pro was Industrial Strength.
> Recently another on of these sold a badged Pfaff Janome that
> originally retailed for about $200 as an Industrial strength machine
> for over $400. Auction #8237984593
> Several of the Yahoo groups are currently trying to get something done
> about these people. Sorry for the rant but these guys are getting
> away with fraud.
> I am sure that Ron A. would most likely agree as he is a very honest
> tech and dealer.


I'm glad you said all this. I was wondering how to word the same
comments! :)

If you want industrial strength, buy an industrial. If you want heavy
domestic, buy a Bernina 1008. If you want a good older quilt-handling
machine that will also take jeans, the 301 will suit fine. But go to a
local dealer and see what they have in, taking wodges of cloth with you
for testing.

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Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
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