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Ugggly wedding dresses! Veloise 07-14-2006
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Posted by Veloise on July 14, 2006, 5:40 pm
Sorry to re-open this thread (well, actually, I am not) but someone
using a different UseNet group feed recently stumbled across a post
from April. My correspondent contacted me directly to write:

"... I can not believe the horrible things that you wrote about some of
the gowns and dresses. In defense of them - these are professional
couturiers and sewers that are working hard to design dresses, and you
just trash them without with no mercy. People work hard to start
businesses and it is sad that you have nothing to do but criticize
them! Do you know anything about sewing and designing?.

I love the Johanna Grace dresses, they are beautifully designed and if
you took one second to read their web site and had an ounce of
creativity and taste you would see that they are not just flower girl
dresses, but party and holiday dresses. .... If you had any good sense
or taste or had an education in design and the history of clothing you
would have gotten that. ...There are many other companies there that
you trashed that have nice dresses, maybe not to your taste. I am
guessing that you work in Walmart.

Shame on you and your hurtful words Veloise. What goes around comes
around."

So I am reposting this disclaimer, which was part of the original
message:

"Etiquette Hell has a message board! My life is a shambles! This post
is new and it's from Cyndi."

Translation: CYNDI wrote these "horrible things." I merely shared her
comments and the links with my buddies in alt.sewing.

(FYI: been sewing and designing for several decades. Been a writer of
humor and satire for almost as long. In my early years I used to score
off-the-charts on reading comprehension tests. And I work as a city
planner.)

HTH


--Karen D.


Posted by Kate Dicey on July 14, 2006, 6:54 pm
Veloise wrote:

> Sorry to re-open this thread (well, actually, I am not) but someone
> using a different UseNet group feed recently stumbled across a post
> from April. My correspondent contacted me directly to write:
>
> "... I can not believe the horrible things that you wrote about some of
> the gowns and dresses. In defense of them - these are professional
> couturiers and sewers that are working hard to design dresses, and you
> just trash them without with no mercy. People work hard to start
> businesses and it is sad that you have nothing to do but criticize
> them! Do you know anything about sewing and designing?.
>
> I love the Johanna Grace dresses, they are beautifully designed and if
> you took one second to read their web site and had an ounce of
> creativity and taste you would see that they are not just flower girl
> dresses, but party and holiday dresses. .... If you had any good sense
> or taste or had an education in design and the history of clothing you
> would have gotten that. ...There are many other companies there that
> you trashed that have nice dresses, maybe not to your taste. I am
> guessing that you work in Walmart.
>
> Shame on you and your hurtful words Veloise. What goes around comes
> around."
>
> So I am reposting this disclaimer, which was part of the original
> message:
>
> "Etiquette Hell has a message board! My life is a shambles! This post
> is new and it's from Cyndi."
>
> Translation: CYNDI wrote these "horrible things." I merely shared her
> comments and the links with my buddies in alt.sewing.
>
> (FYI: been sewing and designing for several decades. Been a writer of
> humor and satire for almost as long. In my early years I used to score
> off-the-charts on reading comprehension tests. And I work as a city
> planner.)
>
> HTH
>
>
> --Karen D.
>
Dozy thing! Does she have so little taste and knowledge of sewing that
she cannot see tacky making up and ugly design when she sees it? Poor
thing... Never mind that we cannot (thank God!) all like the same
thing anyway! I bet she likes Barbie pink wedding dresses that look
like merringues in lace doilies! ;)

Oh, dear - my claws are getting blunt again...

--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

Posted by Veloise on July 15, 2006, 2:54 pm
Kate Dicey wrote:
> Dozy thing! Does she have so little taste and knowledge of sewing that
> she cannot see tacky making up and ugly design when she sees it? Poor
> thing... Never mind that we cannot (thank God!) all like the same
> thing anyway! I bet she likes Barbie pink wedding dresses that look
> like merringues in lace doilies! ;)
>
> Oh, dear - my claws are getting blunt again...

I'm thinkin' she wore the Cake Dress in her own spotlight. Or perhaps
that Opposite-of-Phallic number.

FWI, city planners *hate* Wally World.

--Karen D.


Posted by enigma on July 16, 2006, 8:50 am

> FWI, city planners *hate* Wally World.

but not-so-bright town selectmen love them... :p
we have two selectmen that have publicly stated our town will
never "be anything" until we get a Wal-mart & a Lowe's. these
same selectmen pushed through approval of a big box
supermarket over town's people's objections (there are already
21 of this particular store within a half hour's drive & i
don't shop there if i can possibly avoid it).
<sigh> there are 5 Wally worlds within that half hour drive
too... not that i'd ever set foot in one. i don't mind
driving. i moved here because it was rural & i could farm.
annoys me that suburbia is catching up.
lee <who just recieved the whole set of Margo's patterns!>

Posted by on July 15, 2006, 3:49 am

It is immaterial that these are "designer creations"... Some
things that come from designers really should be burned (or laughed
at)... Just because you call yourself a "designer" does not mean that
you have impeccable taste.. That whole argument as presented is not
remotely logical - in fact, it is absurd.

If something is horrid, it deserves to be labeled horrid, no matter
what designer "created" it, and no matter how long the designer
worked on it..Things do not have merit merely based on how long
someone worked on them.... Dresses with butt bows big enough to land
a piper cub on, asymmetrical horrors with far too many layers of
frou-frou, and headpieces which look like giant, cheap plastic bath
"puffs", etc. are not in fact in good taste. A designer label alone
certainly does not make a gown worth wearing.

Your "correspondant" needs to get rid of her nouveau-riche
pseudo-snobbism, and stop trying to look down her nose at people she
personally does not agree with.

me (who never worked at W-mart, nor K-mart, nor any other "big box"
discount retail store).

wrote:

>Sorry to re-open this thread (well, actually, I am not) but someone
>using a different UseNet group feed recently stumbled across a post
>from April. My correspondent contacted me directly to write:
>
>"... I can not believe the horrible things that you wrote about some of
>the gowns and dresses. In defense of them - these are professional
>couturiers and sewers that are working hard to design dresses, and you
>just trash them without with no mercy. People work hard to start
>businesses and it is sad that you have nothing to do but criticize
>them! Do you know anything about sewing and designing?.
>
>I love the Johanna Grace dresses, they are beautifully designed and if
>you took one second to read their web site and had an ounce of
>creativity and taste you would see that they are not just flower girl
>dresses, but party and holiday dresses. .... If you had any good sense
>or taste or had an education in design and the history of clothing you
>would have gotten that. ...There are many other companies there that
>you trashed that have nice dresses, maybe not to your taste. I am
>guessing that you work in Walmart.
>
>Shame on you and your hurtful words Veloise. What goes around comes
>around."
>
>So I am reposting this disclaimer, which was part of the original
>message:
>
>"Etiquette Hell has a message board! My life is a shambles! This post
>is new and it's from Cyndi."
>
>Translation: CYNDI wrote these "horrible things." I merely shared her
>comments and the links with my buddies in alt.sewing.
>
>(FYI: been sewing and designing for several decades. Been a writer of
>humor and satire for almost as long. In my early years I used to score
>off-the-charts on reading comprehension tests. And I work as a city
>planner.)
>
>HTH
>
>
>--Karen D.

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