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Washing Fabric in the New Bosch Top-Loader Phaedrine 06-18-2006
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Posted by Phaedrine on June 18, 2006, 6:00 pm

As posted previously, we recently purchased and just had installed
yesterday a Bosch top loader washing machine. Our choice was made after
much research and input from people who post to alt.sewing. I did not
get the LG because there were gazillions of complaints on extreme
vibration if it was not situated on a concrete floor. And I said no to
the Whirlpool due to previous poor experience despite that it is a
highly rated and popular machine. We got a great deal on the Bosch with
an extra $200 off over Memorial day because my DH is a Vietnam vet and
an addition $100 rebate. Overall, I am quite pleased with the machine.

What I like:
It's a very nice looking machine and sturdy. The manual is huge but
that's only because it's printed in so many languages. Despite my
fears, the machine is quite easy to use, unlike many other electronics
that are ridiculously complicated. It has plenty enough options
including both Delicate and Hand Wash cycles. I was able to wash my
underwires without any problem whatever in the Hand Wash cycle which
does not spin at all. When it is done, you set it to drain the water
and it does so without spinning. Very cool. The pedestal is just high
enough for me.

You can set it for an extra rinse which we need right now since some of
our things have residual detergent in them. It also has a 2 hour soak
cycle. Our clothes came out noticibly cleaner the first time I used it.
It does spin out an amazing amount of water and I can already tell that
the dry runs much less (I still have my old dryer). There are many
different cycles, several for cottons alone, woolens, delicates, hand
wash, "permanent press" (can't believe that terminology is still in
use!). In addition, you can set any of the cycles at quick wash, power
wash and other things. You can also revise any of the cycles to your
liking.

What concerns me:

Some articles come out quite twisted and knotted up--- shirt sleeves,
short 1 yard lengths of fabric and other things--- and somewhat more
wrinkled that with my top loader. I am not pleased about that and
contemplating how to prevent that. Another problem, now resolved, was
that despite the very long drain hose, it popped out of the drain pipe
on the second run spreading water everywhere. Fortunately I happened to
be in the room at the time and was able to stop it before the flooding
got out of hand. We used duct tape to secure it. It's a flexible, not
stiff, hose unlike the one for my previous 20+ year old top-loading
Maytag. Seems like they should have designed a clip to prevent that
from happening. After all the troubles we've had this week, that was
just another hassle we did not need.

We also cannot find a lint filter. I find that weird.

Phae

--
I fear me you but warm the starved snake
Who, cherished in your breasts, will sting your hearts. (Henry VI,Shakespeare)

Posted by Kate Dicey on June 18, 2006, 6:34 pm
Phaedrine wrote:

> As posted previously, we recently purchased and just had installed
> yesterday a Bosch top loader washing machine. Our choice was made after
> much research and input from people who post to alt.sewing. I did not
> get the LG because there were gazillions of complaints on extreme
> vibration if it was not situated on a concrete floor. And I said no to
> the Whirlpool due to previous poor experience despite that it is a
> highly rated and popular machine. We got a great deal on the Bosch with
> an extra $200 off over Memorial day because my DH is a Vietnam vet and
> an addition $100 rebate. Overall, I am quite pleased with the machine.
>
> What I like:
> It's a very nice looking machine and sturdy. The manual is huge but
> that's only because it's printed in so many languages. Despite my
> fears, the machine is quite easy to use, unlike many other electronics
> that are ridiculously complicated. It has plenty enough options
> including both Delicate and Hand Wash cycles. I was able to wash my
> underwires without any problem whatever in the Hand Wash cycle which
> does not spin at all. When it is done, you set it to drain the water
> and it does so without spinning. Very cool. The pedestal is just high
> enough for me.
>
> You can set it for an extra rinse which we need right now since some of
> our things have residual detergent in them. It also has a 2 hour soak
> cycle. Our clothes came out noticibly cleaner the first time I used it.
> It does spin out an amazing amount of water and I can already tell that
> the dry runs much less (I still have my old dryer). There are many
> different cycles, several for cottons alone, woolens, delicates, hand
> wash, "permanent press" (can't believe that terminology is still in
> use!). In addition, you can set any of the cycles at quick wash, power
> wash and other things. You can also revise any of the cycles to your
> liking.
>
> What concerns me:
>
> Some articles come out quite twisted and knotted up--- shirt sleeves,
> short 1 yard lengths of fabric and other things--- and somewhat more
> wrinkled that with my top loader. I am not pleased about that and
> contemplating how to prevent that. Another problem, now resolved, was
> that despite the very long drain hose, it popped out of the drain pipe
> on the second run spreading water everywhere. Fortunately I happened to
> be in the room at the time and was able to stop it before the flooding
> got out of hand. We used duct tape to secure it. It's a flexible, not
> stiff, hose unlike the one for my previous 20+ year old top-loading
> Maytag. Seems like they should have designed a clip to prevent that
> from happening. After all the troubles we've had this week, that was
> just another hassle we did not need.
>
> We also cannot find a lint filter. I find that weird.
>
> Phae
>
Did you mean FRONT loader? I'm slightly puzzled... ;)

I find that with short lengths of fabrics and bras a small net lingerie
washing bag is a great idea.

I've never had a front loader with a lint filter. They don't need one
as they fill and wash rather than recirculating the water through the pump.

Our machine came with a screw fit end on the waste pipe: it screws into
the sink waste just above the u bend.
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Posted by cea on June 20, 2006, 3:02 pm

Phaedrine wrote:
> As posted previously, we recently purchased and just had installed
> yesterday a Bosch top loader washing machine. <snip>
> What I like:
> It's a very nice looking machine and sturdy. The manual is huge but
> that's only because it's printed in so many languages.
---
That's so you can learn French and Spanish while you do the laundry.
A working grasp of the langwedge, so to speak.
---
>
> We also cannot find a lint filter. I find that weird.
>
> Phae
---
No llint filter, but check around the inside of the door seal--the
Bosch may have a ring of brushes around the door like the Maytags have.
I find lint gets trapped on the brushes, but is very difficult to clean
off, and the repairman had little to offer in the way of cleaning
advice. My plan is to find some sort of wee stiff-bristle brush which
fits into the tiny crevices, like a kiddie toothbrush or such. The
brushes get right nasty, what with staying damp all the time.
Further unasked-for advice: if you live in a land of frequent
thurnerstorms/electrical activity, you may consider keeping the machine
unplugged when not in use. I had a power surge which took out a
motherboard during a thunderstorm. Expensive bit of rainfall that day.
Cea


Posted by Phaedrine on June 20, 2006, 3:39 pm

> No llint filter, but check around the inside of the door seal--the
> Bosch may have a ring of brushes around the door like the Maytags have.
> I find lint gets trapped on the brushes, but is very difficult to clean
> off, and the repairman had little to offer in the way of cleaning
> advice. My plan is to find some sort of wee stiff-bristle brush which
> fits into the tiny crevices, like a kiddie toothbrush or such. The
> brushes get right nasty, what with staying damp all the time.

No... mine has nothing like that.

> Further unasked-for advice: if you live in a land of frequent
> thurnerstorms/electrical activity, you may consider keeping the machine
> unplugged when not in use. I had a power surge which took out a
> motherboard during a thunderstorm. Expensive bit of rainfall that day.
> Cea

I appreciate the advice. :) When you walk outdoors and the air smells
of ozone, you'll know not only that it's likely to rain but that
electrical activity is occurring in the atmosphere whether you see
lightning or not. That's the time to unplug. But, while unplugging
does lower the risk significantly, it is not foolproof because static
electricity can also do significant harm to delicate electronics---
anything with a circuit board including the washer & dryer as you say,
Cea. That can occur even when the device is unplugged so we also need
to be careful (1) in the winter especially when the air is dryer and
it's easier to build up a charge; and (2) anytime during a storm whether
there is lightning or not. Winter, summer, spring or fall, I always
ground myself on something before I touch any of my sewing machines
since they all have electronics.

We live on a ridge and had to install a whole-house lightning protection
system--- 15 or so air terminals, copper ground rods, the whole bit. We
also had two whole-house surge protectors installed at the main. That
all cost us as much as the previous two years lightning damage to
electronics (suffice it to say it was a bundle). So far, we have not
had another incident.

Phae

--
I fear me you but warm the starved snake
Who, cherished in your breasts, will sting your hearts. (Henry VI,Shakespeare)

Posted by Liz on June 20, 2006, 8:08 pm

>
> Phaedrine wrote:
>> As posted previously, we recently purchased and just had installed
>> yesterday a Bosch top loader washing machine. <snip>
>> What I like:
>> It's a very nice looking machine and sturdy. The manual is huge but
>> that's only because it's printed in so many languages.
> ---
> That's so you can learn French and Spanish while you do the laundry.
> A working grasp of the langwedge, so to speak.
> ---
>>
>> We also cannot find a lint filter. I find that weird.
>>
>> Phae
> ---
> No llint filter, but check around the inside of the door seal--the
> Bosch may have a ring of brushes around the door like the Maytags have.
> I find lint gets trapped on the brushes, but is very difficult to clean
> off, and the repairman had little to offer in the way of cleaning
> advice. My plan is to find some sort of wee stiff-bristle brush which
> fits into the tiny crevices, like a kiddie toothbrush or such. The
> brushes get right nasty, what with staying damp all the time.
> Further unasked-for advice: if you live in a land of frequent
> thurnerstorms/electrical activity, you may consider keeping the machine
> unplugged when not in use. I had a power surge which took out a
> motherboard during a thunderstorm. Expensive bit of rainfall that day.
> Cea
>

Our LG washer/dryer has a lint filter, but I never find any lint in it. Lots
of lint comes out with the water, and some is stuck to the rubber seal round
the door -- no brushes there. Do other people's electronic machines give any
indication of where they're up to in the cycle? Ours just has an estimate of
time remaining, which is often a severe underestimate.

Liz



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