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Posted by Ursula Schrader on February 13, 2008, 4:11 pm
Hello all,
since that sloper blocks thread I'm firmly resolved to get a bit more
professional (or whatever you would like to call it) when it comes to
sewing. So I thought that I might as well get one of those things you put
the item of clothing on while making it. In German it's a 'Schneiderbüste',
LEO said it's called a dummy. Anyway, just for the fun of it, I googled for
one today, to find out what's on the market. I'd need a vastly andjustable
one, and so I came across a thermoplastic one (warm - takes shape of body,
cold - keeps shape, can be folded away after use), and wondered if you use
any of these things, and if you do, what model, well, all there is to
know... Thanks for advice.
U. - dead tired, off to bed, will be ashamed tomorrow about bad English of
this one. ;-)
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Posted by AK&DStrohl on February 13, 2008, 7:55 pm
Ursula,
It took your German labeling of a dressmaker form to jolt me. I've been
trying to find a reference work for translating German sewing terms into
English and have been coming up with only the bare basics. Not nearly
enough for what I'm doing. And my German lessons are not even beyond the
basics.
Which has spurred another memory. I'm trying to find authentic Trachten
patterns for regional German and Swiss womens costumes. It may just be a
language thing. I may not have enough of the right words to do a proper
search. Or maybe I'm not looking in the right place.
Switzerland seems to be very closed to anything other than small very
commercial touristy things to sell. What I'm getting out of Germany is a
little better. There are RTW Dirndls, a bit too sexy for my taste, but
authentic costume patterns seem to be nowhere to be found.
Have any suggestions?
Thank you for any help,
AK in PA
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Posted by Ursula Schrader on February 14, 2008, 3:55 am
"AK&DStrohl" wrote...
> Ursula,
>
> It took your German labeling of a dressmaker form to jolt me. I've been
> trying to find a reference work for translating German sewing terms into
> English and have been coming up with only the bare basics. Not nearly
> enough for what I'm doing. And my German lessons are not even beyond the
> basics.
Yes, I know the problem only too well. While I was working for the internet
company that made and sold interviews with pop stars like Britney Spears,
http://dict.leo.org/ worked quite well for me. However, when I started my
one-year training course for becoming foreign language correspondent, this
useful tool on the internet soon came to its limits. Many terms from banking
and economy just didn't show up there, not even in the discussion forum.
www.yourdictionary.com is a somewhat useful site, since it links you to
other internet dictionaries, but in the end there's nothing like 'appearing
foolish' (mind the apostrophes, there are no stupid questions, right? ;-))
and asking native speakers.
> Which has spurred another memory. I'm trying to find authentic Trachten
> patterns for regional German and Swiss womens costumes. It may just be a
> language thing. I may not have enough of the right words to do a proper
> search. Or maybe I'm not looking in the right place.
> Switzerland seems to be very closed to anything other than small very
> commercial touristy things to sell. What I'm getting out of Germany is a
> little better. There are RTW Dirndls, a bit too sexy for my taste, but
> authentic costume patterns seem to be nowhere to be found.
OK, you should be well aware that 'Trachten' are a very regional thing. You
get 'Trachten' all over Germany, Austria and Switzerland. Come to think of
it, all over Europe, people used wear what is called in German a 'Tracht'.
The 'Dirndl' you have very likely in mind is the Bavarian and Austrian
dress. BTW, Bavarians hate to be called Germans, you might compare the whole
thing perhaps a little with the Scottish, who might seriously harm you if
you call them to easily 'British'. ;-) Swiss costumes differ rather a lot
from the aforesaid Dirndl. The Swiss are rather prudish, so those dresses
have a very high neckline and in many cases don't accentuate the bust at
all. All in all, the form of the Dirndl goes back to 17th and 18th century
court fashion. You know the thing: year 1 it's fashion for the in-crowd,
year 2 it's fashion for the not-so-in-crowd, year 1+ n (wherein n is any
number of years between three and 30 in our time) it's fashion (meaning
leave out all the offensive details like too short hemlines, too low
necklines or too bold colours) for the hicks. So you get the Rokoko bodice
well into the 19th century, while the Empire waistline hardly makes it into
rural fashion.
> Have any suggestions?
> Thank you for any help,
> AK in PA
I'll do some research into the whole matter, but it might take a while.
However, I gather from your posting that it's not to urgent. If you've got
more question on the whole matter, I'll be glad to answer to my best
knowledge, but for now I've got to go, DD is awake and calling*. ;-)
U.
*Saying something like 'Arrrrnnnnghh!' and 'Rörörörörö'. Ah, those
babynoises... Melt your heart any time. ;-)
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Posted by Ursula Schrader on February 14, 2008, 12:27 pm
"Ursula Schrader" wrote...
>
> "AK&DStrohl" wrote...
>
>> Have any suggestions?
>> Thank you for any help,
>> AK in PA
>
> I'll do some research into the whole matter, but it might take a while.
> However, I gather from your posting that it's not to urgent. If you've got
> more question on the whole matter, I'll be glad to answer to my best
> knowledge, but for now I've got to go, DD is awake and calling*. ;-)
>
> U.
Try this link:
http://www.stoff-reich.de/store/
Perhaps they've got something that suits you. If you require translation,
just ask. ;-)
U.
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Posted by Ursula Schrader on February 20, 2008, 7:22 am
"AK&DStrohl" wrote
>
> <about traditional clothing in the European Alpine regions>
>
Hello,
I haven't heard from you for a while, so I don't know if my research has
been any help to you. However, if you would go for a certain region, you
could ask a local 'Trachtenverein' for some patterns or I could do. You go
here:
http://www.br-online.de/land-und-leute/thema/trachten/index.xml
and click on the 'Bayerische Vielfalt' link. Then you can take a look at the
different regions and if you find something that suits your taste, I'll try
and contact them.
U.
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