Where is everyone

Henry Kaiser built a shipyard in Portland, and it turned out
"Liberty Ships".
http://www.answers.com/topic/kaiser-shipyards My father, in
addition to trying hard to keep a few of his stations going
for at least a few hours each day, worked nights at the
shipyard, supervising steam fitters. I hardly have any
memories of my Dad until much later, he was never home when
I was awake. But his business did survive, and I worked
with him later on.

<Sarcasm> I wonder what memories today's kids will have of
all the civilian sacrifices for the war (on terror) effort.

Beverly

Posted by Taria on April 13, 2008, 9:54 pm

My cousin has a son with not a whole lot of his hand
left from an ied. I suppose he will remember. My son
is in law enforcement in a border town. Every day I
know he has stories to tell. His best hs friend
just got back from Iraq. He has made some sacrifice.
Not all young folks are clueless.
I am not sure I can think of any sacrifices
that adults are making for the war on terror these days
except maybe shoes at the airport. At 50 I can't remember
much in the way of shortages in my life but a gas crisis
or two.
I agree that a lot of kids these days are weenies
but don't discount all of them. There still is some
hope.
Taria

BEI Design wrote:

> <Sarcasm> I wonder what memories today's kids will have of

> all the civilian sacrifices for the war (on terror) effort.

> Beverly

Posted by BEI Design on April 13, 2008, 11:16 pm

Taria wrote:

> My cousin has a son with not a whole lot of his hand

> left from an ied. I suppose he will remember. My son

> is in law enforcement in a border town. Every day I

> know he has stories to tell. His best hs friend

> just got back from Iraq. He has made some sacrifice.

> Not all young folks are clueless.

> I am not sure I can think of any sacrifices

> that adults are making for the war on terror these days

> except maybe shoes at the airport. At 50 I can't remember

> much in the way of shortages in my life but a gas crisis

> or two.

> I agree that a lot of kids these days are weenies

> but don't discount all of them. There still is some

> hope.

> Taria

Re-read my message, I said "civilian sacrifices". I thinks
it's appalling that only the guys and gals on the front line
are asked to make *any* sacrifice in this very important
effort. Many of those safely at home just carry on like
there was no armed conflict at all. The previous drift of
this thread was remembrances, by those of us old enough to
have a memory of it, of the sacrifices required/demanded of
the CIVILIAN population at home during WWII. I never
implied "kids these days are weenies". I just mused about
what their memory of this time will be when they are old
foggies like some of us. Sheesh. Brush up your reading
comprehension skills.

Beverly

Posted by Taria on April 13, 2008, 11:38 pm

Lots of kids these days ARE weenies. Just not all. When I
read the last msg. I was trying to figure out just what
sacrifices should be made. Since those actually on the front
line in this war are volunteer I guess you could say they
make the biggest civilian sacrifice by becoming military.

I guess each generation has their own trials to deal with
and remember. I hope my kids never have to go through
what my parents did and don't have those memories.
Taria

BEI Design wrote:

> Re-read my message, I said "civilian sacrifices". I thinks

> it's appalling that only the guys and gals on the front line

> are asked to make *any* sacrifice in this very important

> effort. Many of those safely at home just carry on like

> there was no armed conflict at all. The previous drift of

> this thread was remembrances, by those of us old enough to

> have a memory of it, of the sacrifices required/demanded of

> the CIVILIAN population at home during WWII. I never

> implied "kids these days are weenies". I just mused about

> what their memory of this time will be when they are old

> foggies like some of us. Sheesh. Brush up your reading

> comprehension skills.

> Beverly

Posted by Pogonip on April 13, 2008, 5:12 pm

BEI Design wrote:

> "Juno" wrote

>> During WW 2, we lived about half mile from a local farmer

>> and went down there for our milk, eggs, and veggies, Once

>> in awhile he would slaughter a cow or pig and mom could

>> get meat from him without using food stamps. Do you

>> remember food stamps?

> ITYM "Ration Stamps"? And yes, I remember (faintly I was 5

> at the end of WWII) rationing. Mom made her first attempt

> at home canning peaches with her allotment of scarce sugar

> and was scalded when the hot bottles exploded after the oven

> door was opened. There was some new-fangled home canning

> method which by-passed the boiling-in-a-huge-pressure-cooker

> in favor of cooking at high temp in the oven. BAD!!!

> Dad lost almost all of the chain of 37 gasoline stations he

> had worked so hard to put together when gas rationing cut

> his product and man power was depleted by the draft.

> Beverly

Oh, yes, ration stamp books! My dad got extra gas stamps because he was
a doctor and in those days, most of his appointments were housecalls.

My mother canned in the oven, too, and one time she was canning meat (of
all things!!!) and the door blew off the oven. Very dangerous in more
ways than one.

My father was often paid in food by the farmers he looked after. We got
bushels of fruit (apples, I remember) and vegetables, and the occasional
chicken.

--
Joanne
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