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crepe backed satin ena86 04-25-2006
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Posted by Kate Dicey on April 25, 2006, 9:40 pm
ena86@hotmail.com wrote:

> thank you. that's awesome advice! i totally wouldn't have thought to do
> that-baste and then zigzag.. i'm so used to using a straight stitch!.
>
The thing about bias (or seams with any amount of bias even if it isn't
a full 45 degrees) is that it's stretchy, and it wants to drop. You
need to let it drop a bit to avoid popped seams, so I find with soft
drapy stuff like this the best thing is to treat it almost like a
stretch knit. :) The other thing you *can* do (if you don't have
zigzag available) it stretch the seam a bit as you sew. The danger here
is distorting it too much, so it won't go back when you press it, or you
get rippled seam allowances showing through as bumps on the outside.

Oh - when basting, don't dangle the fabric from the needle in your lap!
Go sit at the table, keep the weight of the fabric ON the table in
front of you, as flat as possible, and work like a couture pro!

This poly satin nightmare from hell fabric* just LOOOOVES to do all this
tricksy stuff in spades! Don't let it put you off: you have brain cells
and it doesn't! ;) You can deal with it. May take a bit of practice,
but one day soon you'll be an old hand at it, like me! And it looks
sooooh good when you get it right. :)

*There *are* worse - believe me, there ARE worse fabrics! Just you
wait! :D :D :D I'd rather use nice £54 a metre hand printed silk,
but what the customer wants...

--
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Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

Posted by wurstergirl on April 25, 2006, 10:03 pm
Hello,

I kind of missed something. Did you decide to go with the New Look
6348 pattern? Kate is a terrific resource to give the pointer to
before you start. She can save you tons of heartache with advice.
(Kate: I looked at the pattern instructions and they give *no* extra
seam allowance or special instructions for the bias skirt. It has a
center back zipper that goes from a straight grain bodice to the bias
skirt.)

One of my favorite ways to work with slinky fabrics is to use the
Totally Stable fusible paper. You can stitch right through it and peel
it off easily afterwards. Would be useful for that narrow rolled hem
on the bias skirt. (Don't iron all the way to the edge, so it can roll
freely.)

What color did you choose for your crepe back satin? I love that
fabric to wear. It will be really pretty!!!


Pora

Pora


Posted by on April 25, 2006, 10:17 pm
yup, i went with the new look one. have you sewn this before? any
pointers if you have? :)

"Kate: I looked at the pattern instructions and they give *no* extra
seam allowance or special instructions for the bias skirt. It has a
center back zipper that goes from a straight grain bodice to the bias
skirt."

^ is there somethng that's not in the pattern insturctions that i
should do? or look out for?

:)


Posted by wurstergirl on April 25, 2006, 11:54 pm
I think Kate was trying to explain about working with bias. Basically,
in the vertical and horizontal directions woven fabrics don't stretch.
But if you pull diagonally most of them will stretch. As the fabric
expands in the diagonal (bias direction), the vertical and horizontal
directions react by shortening. In a bias cut skirt, gravity is
providing the pull downward in the bias direction. The skirt will
actually lengthen in areas around the hemline (but unevenly). In
compensation, the distance around your body will shorten (also
unevenly). This makes the lovely clinginess of a bias skirt. But the
net effect is that if you don't give extra seam allowances, it will be
too tight to wear! (And the waist may drop to rest on your hips.)

Most fabrics will reach maximum distortion after hanging in the bias
direction for a few days. So a common way of handling this issue is to
have you baste the skirt together either with thread or pins, let it
hang and stretch out completely for a day or two, then try it on and
adjust the side seams to fit you again. The fit can shrink
drastically, so having extra seam allowance is pretty important. (One
skirt I made had 4 inch allowances, so a total of 13 extra inches
around to play with!) One difficulty is that every time you adjust
the fit it gives the fabric another chance to re-distort. One can
repeat the hanging and refitting ad infinitum and never feel it's
perfect. And, the hemline changes every time you do it, so don't trim
it straight until you've decided to stop refitting!

Anyway, I was struck by the fact that the New Look pattern didn't
mention to hang overnight or provide extra seam allowances. Like I
said in the earlier thread, the wearing ease is 6 1/2 inches, which is
pretty generous. That might be their way of automatically compensating
for the "shrinkage." I'm not trying to discourage you from making
this, because it will be lovely when done. Just want to prevent
disasters!

Kate: are there other home-sewing techniques you know for doing bias
skirts?

Pora


Posted by Kate Dicey on April 26, 2006, 3:41 am
wurstergirl wrote:

> I think Kate was trying to explain about working with bias. Basically,
> in the vertical and horizontal directions woven fabrics don't stretch.
> But if you pull diagonally most of them will stretch. As the fabric
> expands in the diagonal (bias direction), the vertical and horizontal
> directions react by shortening. In a bias cut skirt, gravity is
> providing the pull downward in the bias direction. The skirt will
> actually lengthen in areas around the hemline (but unevenly). In
> compensation, the distance around your body will shorten (also
> unevenly). This makes the lovely clinginess of a bias skirt. But the
> net effect is that if you don't give extra seam allowances, it will be
> too tight to wear! (And the waist may drop to rest on your hips.)
>
> Most fabrics will reach maximum distortion after hanging in the bias
> direction for a few days. So a common way of handling this issue is to
> have you baste the skirt together either with thread or pins, let it
> hang and stretch out completely for a day or two, then try it on and
> adjust the side seams to fit you again. The fit can shrink
> drastically, so having extra seam allowance is pretty important. (One
> skirt I made had 4 inch allowances, so a total of 13 extra inches
> around to play with!) One difficulty is that every time you adjust
> the fit it gives the fabric another chance to re-distort. One can
> repeat the hanging and refitting ad infinitum and never feel it's
> perfect. And, the hemline changes every time you do it, so don't trim
> it straight until you've decided to stop refitting!
>
> Anyway, I was struck by the fact that the New Look pattern didn't
> mention to hang overnight or provide extra seam allowances. Like I
> said in the earlier thread, the wearing ease is 6 1/2 inches, which is
> pretty generous. That might be their way of automatically compensating
> for the "shrinkage." I'm not trying to discourage you from making
> this, because it will be lovely when done. Just want to prevent
> disasters!
>
> Kate: are there other home-sewing techniques you know for doing bias
> skirts?
>
> Pora
>
No, I think between us we've covered just about everything. I always
let a true bias garment, anything with a greater than half circle skirt,
and anything multi-panel and/or very soft fabric rest on a dress stand
for as long as possible: up to a week.

--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

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