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Posted by The Wanderer on January 28, 2007, 5:17 am
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 00:35:34 -0800, BEI Design wrote:

>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 23:14:57 -0800, BEI Design wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> You might also check local fabric stores, lots of professional
>>> sewists leave contact information with them.
>>
>> I realise there are several variations in meaning of words and
>> vocabulary
>> each side of the Atlantic, is 'sewist' a common expression in
>> the US? It
>> just doesn't look - or sound - right to me!
>
> As may be, but "sewer" looks awful to me...stinks, too! ;-)
>
> There have been several discussions on this newsgroup for an
> alternative to "sewer" for "a person (of either gender) who
> sews". Since "seamstress" seems sexist, and "tailor" is mostly
> used to refer to males, what do you suggest?

'Fraid I don't have an alternative, it's just that the word 'sewist'
jarred. As a relative newcomer, I bow to the collective wisdom of the
group.

--
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

Posted by Kate XXXXXX on January 28, 2007, 3:38 am
The Wanderer wrote:

> On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 23:14:57 -0800, BEI Design wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>You might also check local fabric stores, lots of professional
>>sewists leave contact information with them.
>
>
> I realise there are several variations in meaning of words and vocabulary
> each side of the Atlantic, is 'sewist' a common expression in the US? It
> just doesn't look - or sound - right to me!
>
> :-)
>
'Seamtress' and 'dressmaker' have female connotations. 'Sewer' can be
misinterpreted. 'Sewist' may not look quite right but says what we
mean: one who sews.

--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

Posted by The Wanderer on January 28, 2007, 5:25 am
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 08:38:21 +0000, Kate XXXXXX wrote:

> The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 23:14:57 -0800, BEI Design wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>You might also check local fabric stores, lots of professional
>>>sewists leave contact information with them.
>>
>>
>> I realise there are several variations in meaning of words and vocabulary
>> each side of the Atlantic, is 'sewist' a common expression in the US? It
>> just doesn't look - or sound - right to me!
>>
>> :-)
>>
> 'Seamtress' and 'dressmaker' have female connotations. 'Sewer' can be
> misinterpreted. 'Sewist' may not look quite right but says what we
> mean: one who sews.

OK, it's a pity that political correctness seems to get in the way of just
about everything these days. As a mere fellow of advancing years whose
interest in sewing is primarily for dressing our dolls, I guess I'm a
dressmaker, but I certainly don't feel maligned by the title!

I certainly wouldn't claim to be a tailor, tailoring and dressmaking are as
different as chalk and cheese, but that's another argument altogether! [1]

[1] I'm really being just a little mischievous, having just finished my
next bit of floor tiling, and it's looking good and left me in excellent
humour this morning! :-)

--
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

Posted by Kate XXXXXX on January 28, 2007, 11:24 am
The Wanderer wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 08:38:21 +0000, Kate XXXXXX wrote:
>
>> The Wanderer wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 23:14:57 -0800, BEI Design wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> You might also check local fabric stores, lots of professional
>>>> sewists leave contact information with them.
>>>
>>> I realise there are several variations in meaning of words and vocabulary
>>> each side of the Atlantic, is 'sewist' a common expression in the US? It
>>> just doesn't look - or sound - right to me!
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>> 'Seamtress' and 'dressmaker' have female connotations. 'Sewer' can be
>> misinterpreted. 'Sewist' may not look quite right but says what we
>> mean: one who sews.
>
> OK, it's a pity that political correctness seems to get in the way of just
> about everything these days. As a mere fellow of advancing years whose
> interest in sewing is primarily for dressing our dolls, I guess I'm a
> dressmaker, but I certainly don't feel maligned by the title!

I like to stomp all over PC stuff in me little spiky-heeled boots! I'm
a dress and costume maker, who also does some tailoring.
>
> I certainly wouldn't claim to be a tailor, tailoring and dressmaking are as
> different as chalk and cheese, but that's another argument altogether! [1]

Hard tailoring of such stuff as gents natty suiting is certainly a
development from clothes sewing in general, but takes it to new levels
of sculpting and upholstery! ;)
>
> [1] I'm really being just a little mischievous, having just finished my
> next bit of floor tiling, and it's looking good and left me in excellent
> humour this morning! :-)

Good. Tiling I leave to t'hubby! :D

--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

Posted by Joy Beeson on January 29, 2007, 12:35 am
wrote:

> I realise there are several variations in meaning of words and vocabulary
> each side of the Atlantic, is 'sewist' a common expression in the US? It
> just doesn't look - or sound - right to me!

It's a this-newsgroup term, selected in desperation.

"Dressmaker" is the *proper* term for the set of skills meant, but a
lot of the dressmakers we want to refer to wouldn't dream of making
dresses! "Tailors" make clothes -- but only tailored clothes.
Seamstresses are strictly female -- I often say "seamster" (which is
also feminine; the neuter/male word should be "seamer", but "ster" has
pretty much lost its meaning, hence the double feminine "seamstress"),
but a seamstress wasn't a dressmaker, she worked under the supervision
of a dressmaker or tailor back in the days when nobody had sewing
machines.

A "sewist", properly, is one who operates a sew (cf. "pianist",
machinist") but we are completely out of options.

Is this lump in my pocket Nicoll's Cosh*? Anyone know of a word we
can snitch from some other language?

* For those who missed this discussion the first time through:
http://www.cafepress.com/jdnicoll (You can read the quote on the
enlarged picture of the tote bag.)


Joy Beeson
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