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Posted by robb on October 25, 2009, 3:58 am
The problem occurs when I measure out a piece of 3/4" elastic
waistband , overlap ends and sew to make a 17" diameter elastic
circle .
When i install the elastic band (as described in "singer
sewing") my resulting elastic waistbanded pants are about 1 1/4 "
bigger than the original elastic band.
I am expecting close to 17" diameter finished waistband on the
muslin shorts and it has grown to almost 18 1/2 " diameter.
The fabric is very light (light muslin), the stitching used is
5mm ZZ at 3mm stitch length. The unfinished size of the muslin
waist band, where the elastic is installed, is about 26".
The fabric is folded over the elastic once and the ZZ stitches
are through the elastic and fabric sandwich while the elastic is
stretched out to fit the muslin waistband. (so it is not an
elastic casing )
Is there some rule about making the elastic band some amount
smaller than the expected finished size to compensate for this
growth ?
thanks for any helpful advice.
robb
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Posted by Pogonip on October 25, 2009, 4:06 am
robb wrote:
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> The problem occurs when I measure out a piece of 3/4" elastic
> waistband , overlap ends and sew to make a 17" diameter elastic
> circle .
>
> When i install the elastic band (as described in "singer
> sewing") my resulting elastic waistbanded pants are about 1 1/4 "
> bigger than the original elastic band.
>
> I am expecting close to 17" diameter finished waistband on the
> muslin shorts and it has grown to almost 18 1/2 " diameter.
>
> The fabric is very light (light muslin), the stitching used is
> 5mm ZZ at 3mm stitch length. The unfinished size of the muslin
> waist band, where the elastic is installed, is about 26".
>
> The fabric is folded over the elastic once and the ZZ stitches
> are through the elastic and fabric sandwich while the elastic is
> stretched out to fit the muslin waistband. (so it is not an
> elastic casing )
>
> Is there some rule about making the elastic band some amount
> smaller than the expected finished size to compensate for this
> growth ?
>
> thanks for any helpful advice.
> robb
>
You are not the only person to have this experience. Something happens
when you stitch the elastic to the fabric. Magic? If you use the same
elastic and put it in a casing instead of stitching it, it doesn't grow.
But the act of stitching it down does. I've also found that the
length given in a pattern is too long. If it's for a waist, I put the
elastic around that part of the anatomy (mine or the person for whom the
garment is intended) and find a snug but comfortable fit, then cut it a
little bit shorter than that. I tend to prefer casings because I wash
everything rather than dry cleaning, and the elastic eventually gets
brittle and breaks. It's so much easier replacing it in a casing than
ripping it out and resewing the whole thing.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/
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Posted by Juno B on October 25, 2009, 8:56 am
Pogonip wrote:
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> robb wrote:
>> The problem occurs when I measure out a piece of 3/4" elastic
>> waistband , overlap ends and sew to make a 17" diameter elastic
>> circle .
>> When i install the elastic band (as described in "singer
>> sewing") my resulting elastic waistbanded pants are about 1 1/4 "
>> bigger than the original elastic band.
>> I am expecting close to 17" diameter finished waistband on the
>> muslin shorts and it has grown to almost 18 1/2 " diameter.
>> The fabric is very light (light muslin), the stitching used is
>> 5mm ZZ at 3mm stitch length. The unfinished size of the muslin
>> waist band, where the elastic is installed, is about 26".
>> The fabric is folded over the elastic once and the ZZ stitches
>> are through the elastic and fabric sandwich while the elastic is
>> stretched out to fit the muslin waistband. (so it is not an
>> elastic casing )
>> Is there some rule about making the elastic band some amount
>> smaller than the expected finished size to compensate for this
>> growth ?
>> thanks for any helpful advice.
>> robb
>
> You are not the only person to have this experience. Something happens
> when you stitch the elastic to the fabric. Magic? If you use the same
> elastic and put it in a casing instead of stitching it, it doesn't grow.
> But the act of stitching it down does. I've also found that the length
> given in a pattern is too long. If it's for a waist, I put the elastic
> around that part of the anatomy (mine or the person for whom the garment
> is intended) and find a snug but comfortable fit, then cut it a little
> bit shorter than that. I tend to prefer casings because I wash
> everything rather than dry cleaning, and the elastic eventually gets
> brittle and breaks. It's so much easier replacing it in a casing than
> ripping it out and resewing the whole thing.
Robb , Ping Sharon Hayes, she has a great method of putting in
waistbands. She finishes off by saying give the band a lot of steam when
your finished and it goes back to it intendexd size. Ask her for her
method though it works ell.
Juno
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Posted by Judie in Penfield NY on October 25, 2009, 5:03 pm
Juno B wrote:
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> Pogonip wrote:
>> robb wrote:
>>> The problem occurs when I measure out a piece of 3/4" elastic
>>> waistband , overlap ends and sew to make a 17" diameter elastic
>>> circle .
>>> When i install the elastic band (as described in "singer
>>> sewing") my resulting elastic waistbanded pants are about 1 1/4 "
>>> bigger than the original elastic band.
>>> I am expecting close to 17" diameter finished waistband on the
>>> muslin shorts and it has grown to almost 18 1/2 " diameter.
>>> The fabric is very light (light muslin), the stitching used is
>>> 5mm ZZ at 3mm stitch length. The unfinished size of the muslin
>>> waist band, where the elastic is installed, is about 26".
>>> The fabric is folded over the elastic once and the ZZ stitches
>>> are through the elastic and fabric sandwich while the elastic is
>>> stretched out to fit the muslin waistband. (so it is not an
>>> elastic casing )
>>> Is there some rule about making the elastic band some amount
>>> smaller than the expected finished size to compensate for this
>>> growth ?
>>> thanks for any helpful advice.
>>> robb
>> You are not the only person to have this experience. Something
>> happens when you stitch the elastic to the fabric. Magic? If you use
>> the same elastic and put it in a casing instead of stitching it, it
>> doesn't grow. But the act of stitching it down does. I've also found
>> that the length given in a pattern is too long. If it's for a waist,
>> I put the elastic around that part of the anatomy (mine or the person
>> for whom the garment is intended) and find a snug but comfortable fit,
>> then cut it a little bit shorter than that. I tend to prefer
>> casings because I wash everything rather than dry cleaning, and the
>> elastic eventually gets brittle and breaks. It's so much easier
>> replacing it in a casing than ripping it out and resewing the whole
>> thing.
> Robb , Ping Sharon Hayes, she has a great method of putting in
> waistbands. She finishes off by saying give the band a lot of steam when
> your finished and it goes back to it intendexd size. Ask her for her
> method though it works ell.
> Juno
I think it may have been Sharon Hayes who gave me the method of putting
in waistbands and it's super easy and works perfectly.
That said, don't forget that when you are sewing with elastic to make
sure to always stretch it out a few times before you measure and sew.
Just stretch it as far as you can and let it relax 2 or 3 times, it does
help a lot no matter what sort of elastic or what kind of application
you're using.
My latest favorite is fold over elastic (FOE) which is a sort of elastic
binding, it's great for waistbands, crib sheets, diapers and diaper
covers, and I'm sure many things I've yet to try. It comes in different
widths, I've used the 5/8 inch, the 1 inch and the 2 inch so far. It's
my new favorite notion.
Judie
Judie
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Posted by robb on October 27, 2009, 12:07 am
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> Juno B wrote:
> > Pogonip wrote:
> >> robb wrote:
> >>> When i install the elastic band (as described in "singer
> >>> sewing") my resulting elastic waistbanded pants are about 1
1/4 "
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> >>> bigger than the original elastic band.
[trim]
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> > Ping Sharon Hayes, she has a great method of putting in
> > waistbands. She finishes off by saying give the band a lot of
steam
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> > Juno
> I think it may have been Sharon Hayes who gave me the method of
putting
show/hide quoted text
> in waistbands and it's super easy and works perfectly.
> That said, don't forget that when you are sewing with elastic
to make
show/hide quoted text
> sure to always stretch it out a few times before you measure
and sew.
show/hide quoted text
> Just stretch it as far as you can and let it relax 2 or 3
times, it does
show/hide quoted text
> help a lot no matter what sort of elastic or what kind of
application
show/hide quoted text
> you're using.
> Judie
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Thanks for the tips Judie ,
I'll try the steam on my muslin / practice piece when i get to
the iron and see if that shrinks it back some
robb
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> waistband , overlap ends and sew to make a 17" diameter elastic
> circle .
>
> When i install the elastic band (as described in "singer
> sewing") my resulting elastic waistbanded pants are about 1 1/4 "
> bigger than the original elastic band.
>
> I am expecting close to 17" diameter finished waistband on the
> muslin shorts and it has grown to almost 18 1/2 " diameter.
>
> The fabric is very light (light muslin), the stitching used is
> 5mm ZZ at 3mm stitch length. The unfinished size of the muslin
> waist band, where the elastic is installed, is about 26".
>
> The fabric is folded over the elastic once and the ZZ stitches
> are through the elastic and fabric sandwich while the elastic is
> stretched out to fit the muslin waistband. (so it is not an
> elastic casing )
>
> Is there some rule about making the elastic band some amount
> smaller than the expected finished size to compensate for this
> growth ?
>
> thanks for any helpful advice.
> robb
>