how to orient stretch materials for odd shapes and curves ?

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how to orient stretch materials for odd shapes and curves ? robb 04-19-2008
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Posted by robb on April 19, 2008, 1:08 pm
So i am still experimenting with making soft shoes for
baby/toddlers.

One type of shoe i was trying to use (weft / double knit -
interlock ?) and so it stretches more on width than the length i
could not figure out what would be the best stretch orientation
for some thing like an soe shape ?

stretch across foot width or stretch from toe to heel ?

both have problems whe i try to create a finished seam that is
visible on top of the foot.

Example: think ballet shoes with big cutout in the front top .
When i try to clean finish this visible seam with something like
a rolled hem or binding i get curling or scalloping on either the
sides or the front part ? depending on the stretch direction.

Any advice help on solving this dilema ?

robb


Posted by The Wanderer on April 19, 2008, 2:05 pm
On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:08:33 -0400, robb wrote:

> So i am still experimenting with making soft shoes for
> baby/toddlers.
>
> One type of shoe i was trying to use (weft / double knit -
> interlock ?) and so it stretches more on width than the length i
> could not figure out what would be the best stretch orientation
> for some thing like an soe shape ?
>
> stretch across foot width or stretch from toe to heel ?
>
> both have problems whe i try to create a finished seam that is
> visible on top of the foot.
>
> Example: think ballet shoes with big cutout in the front top .
> When i try to clean finish this visible seam with something like
> a rolled hem or binding i get curling or scalloping on either the
> sides or the front part ? depending on the stretch direction.
>
> Any advice help on solving this dilema ?

Err, no help directly on your problem, but I've had some success using a
soft kid material for doll shoes. I used a fairly narrow silk bias binding
around the top of the shoe, hand stitched in place.

Thinking about the size, have you considered checking at your local
library, see if they can get hold of a book on making doll shoes? I'm
guessing at that age the shoes will be more for covering than for walking,
so doll style shoes might fit the bill.

--
Richard - The older I get, the better I used to be!

the dot wanderer at tesco dot net


Posted by robb on April 19, 2008, 9:05 pm

> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:08:33 -0400, robb wrote:
>
> > So i am still experimenting with making soft shoes for
> > baby/toddlers.
> >
> > One type of shoe i was trying to use (weft / double knit -
> > interlock ?) and so it stretches more on width than the
length i
> > could not figure out what would be the best stretch
orientation
> > for some thing like an soe shape ?
> >
> > stretch across foot width or stretch from toe to heel ?
> >
> > both have problems whe i try to create a finished seam that
is
> > visible on top of the foot.
> >
> > Example: think ballet shoes with big cutout in the front top
.
> > When i try to clean finish this visible seam with something
like
> > a rolled hem or binding i get curling or scalloping on either
the
> > sides or the front part ? depending on the stretch direction.
> >
> > Any advice help on solving this dilema ?
>
> Err, no help directly on your problem, but I've had some
success using a
> soft kid material for doll shoes. I used a fairly narrow silk
bias binding
> around the top of the shoe, hand stitched in place.
>
> Thinking about the size, have you considered checking at your
local
> library, see if they can get hold of a book on making doll
shoes? I'm
> guessing at that age the shoes will be more for covering than
for walking,
> so doll style shoes might fit the bill.
>
> --
> Richard - The older I get, the better I used to be!

Thanks Richard,

yes they are for covering but i intend for them to be functional
as well.
stylish but functional shoes for early walker/cruisers.
I am essentially just trying to make stylish soft sole shoes and
I want the sole to protect the bottom of the feet.

I am experimenting with different materials and designs etc.,
different things from leather to a durable poly/vinyl etc

I'll look for the book,
Thanks again
robb


Posted by Pogonip on April 19, 2008, 3:27 pm
robb wrote:
> So i am still experimenting with making soft shoes for
> baby/toddlers.
>
> One type of shoe i was trying to use (weft / double knit -
> interlock ?) and so it stretches more on width than the length i
> could not figure out what would be the best stretch orientation
> for some thing like an soe shape ?
>
> stretch across foot width or stretch from toe to heel ?
>
> both have problems whe i try to create a finished seam that is
> visible on top of the foot.
>
> Example: think ballet shoes with big cutout in the front top .
> When i try to clean finish this visible seam with something like
> a rolled hem or binding i get curling or scalloping on either the
> sides or the front part ? depending on the stretch direction.
>
> Any advice help on solving this dilema ?
>
> robb
>

How about running a cord through the binding or rolled hem, then pulling
it into shape and sewing down the ends of the cord, or leaving tails to
make a bow over the instep? But remember if these are for infants, that
they will get kicked off and/or go into the mouth.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/

Posted by robb on April 20, 2008, 11:35 pm

> robb wrote:
> > So i am still experimenting with making soft shoes for
> > baby/toddlers.
> >
> > One type of shoe i was trying to use (weft / double knit -
> > interlock ?) and so it stretches more on width than the
length i
> > could not figure out what would be the best stretch
orientation
> > for some thing like an shoe shape ?
> >
> > stretch across foot width or stretch from toe to heel ?
> >
> > both have problems whe i try to create a finished seam that
is
> > visible on top of the foot.
> >
> > Example: think ballet shoes with big cutout in the front top
.
> > When i try to clean finish this visible seam with something
like
> > a rolled hem or binding i get curling or scalloping on either
the
> > sides or the front part ? depending on the stretch direction.
> >
> > Any advice help on solving this dilema ?
>
> How about running a cord through the binding or rolled hem,
then pulling
> it into shape and sewing down the ends of the cord, or leaving
tails to
> make a bow over the instep? But remember if these are for
infants, that
> they will get kicked off and/or go into the mouth.
> --
> Joanne

Thanks Joanne,

by cord would #10 knitting thread count as cord ? or is there
some other cord you were thinking ?

also if i am using a rolled hem foot , can i feed the cord
through the foot as i am having some difficulty getting that to
go through. maybe i need to think about where it sould go
through.

I'll be cheating ? a bit ? with some elastic inside casing around
te ankle part to impede any kick offs :)

thanks for help
robb


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